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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 21 2011 23:31 GMT
#2021
If we work under the assumption that plat players are probably going to win the majority of their games in season 2, then given elo acceleration they should be higher than where a gold player could achieve after about 3 days simply because their winning percentage should be higher. And so on and so forth. It will suck for a week, but acceleration makes the process EASIER and FASTER simply because the law of averages dictate that on average, bad players will drop and good players will rise.

Jiji will be out of range to play with s1 gold by tonight. The rest of plat by the weekend. Whereas average players will bounce around 500 and stay generally in the 1200-1400 point area, which is where they would have been anyway.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 21 2011 23:32 GMT
#2022
On September 22 2011 08:15 Two_DoWn wrote:
Or if your actually good you can just streak in the right direction. Your playing with the same people you would have played with otherwise (assuming, of course, that everyone you play with is active) even if they didnt have acceleration.


Streaking good is complete luck considering the range of players currently playing at X elo. I'd rather just wait until most people have their ELO settle and I can destroy 1300 players in lane and carry the game.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 21 2011 23:36 GMT
#2023
And also...wtf is up with nubs gettin executioner's culling for no reason other than "i want lifesteal and crit"
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
September 21 2011 23:37 GMT
#2024
Well before it would be like 2k player (you) + four 1300's vs five 1300's and you could win 80-85% or so, now it's more random- I've had good luck, but last game I had 3 players who were s1 plat on my team and they had zero- if I had ended up on the other team, probably would have lost.

However, there aren't THAT many plat players total (<1%? i forget) and honestly it shouldn't skew it by that much. I'd still say a 2k player post-reset should be winning like 70-75% at least.
daxxus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States14 Posts
September 21 2011 23:40 GMT
#2025
Anybody else play any dominion today? It was very fun, fast paced, lots of big team ganks and cool powerups and all that. It'll be a nice change of pace from normal IMO
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 21 2011 23:50 GMT
#2026
The few rare times where Dan smites something correctly, he apologizes to his team for missing the smite because he was preoccupied.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 21 2011 23:54 GMT
#2027
Fact- you dont need smite if you have flash+teemo autoattack. #1 baron steal.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
September 21 2011 23:55 GMT
#2028
On September 22 2011 04:40 xiaoW wrote:
In the past there were tons of problems with EU servers, but now I can't really take this anymore. This is just unacceptable from Riot EUW.

20 Hours of maintenance and problems. Really feel like EUW is treated like shit.
---

That aside, I think champs with good sustain or bruisers in general are gonna be very strong on Dominion.
Garen, Jax, Mundo, Olaf, Singed gonna be OP


EUW and EU has been treated terribly since forever sadly.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 23:58:36
September 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#2029
On September 22 2011 08:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
If we work under the assumption that plat players are probably going to win the majority of their games in season 2, then given elo acceleration they should be higher than where a gold player could achieve after about 3 days simply because their winning percentage should be higher. And so on and so forth. It will suck for a week, but acceleration makes the process EASIER and FASTER simply because the law of averages dictate that on average, bad players will drop and good players will rise.

Jiji will be out of range to play with s1 gold by tonight. The rest of plat by the weekend. Whereas average players will bounce around 500 and stay generally in the 1200-1400 point area, which is where they would have been anyway.

The assumption doesn't hold true. Even jiji, who has been duoing almost exclusively, is still dropping games because of retarded teams. The problem is its a crapshoot on getting 5 s1 plat players vs 5 s1 bronze players on your team. Better plays will eventually pull ahead, but streaking wins and losses is very likely given the randomness in skill level of what's on your team.

Accelerated Elo just means if you streak in the wrong direction it's that much harder to get back where you should be. It is, and has always been, used for new players because you have nothing to base their skill on, whereas the majority of other players are already ranked appropriately. Accelerating Elo in the manner they did goes against the way the actual Elo system works.
twitch.tv/cratonz
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#2030
dominion on west in 5 mins.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 23:57:34
September 21 2011 23:57 GMT
#2031
On September 22 2011 08:44 DanielZKlein wrote:
Heads-up: Dominion beta in Europe in 15 minutes. Let's meet in #teamliquid and play together?


In case anyone's missed it from the Dominion thread. Straight from a red himself.

edit: damn, ninja'd
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 21 2011 23:58 GMT
#2032
"I can Kog but not vs Cait/Taric"
Picks Ashe.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 00:00:39
September 22 2011 00:00 GMT
#2033
[image loading]

new meta using old strategies
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 22 2011 00:01 GMT
#2034
On September 22 2011 06:23 spinesheath wrote:
HSGG just got denied a pentakill on Akali either because of GA (popped GA less than 1 sec after the previous kill, and finished the enemy off less than 1 sec after the revive), or because his enemy quit right after the quadra.
Both seem kinda weird.

The announcer should really prioritize "PENTAKILL" over any other announcements. It's kinda weird how if you don't space out your kills just right, you don't get the penta.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 22 2011 00:03 GMT
#2035
Tap goes tryhard riven, fails miserably every time

Rhav goes gunblade riven, 9/2

fuuuuu
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 22 2011 00:06 GMT
#2036
Dominion up on eu west- get on ur smurfs broskies!
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2669 Posts
September 22 2011 00:14 GMT
#2037
I don't think Dyrus will survive this reset. He's getting angrier and angrier as I watch.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 00:34:17
September 22 2011 00:31 GMT
#2038
Wrong thread.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
September 22 2011 00:35 GMT
#2039
what is up with the rating. i won and got +22 and i was like sweeeet, then i lost and i got FREAKIN -45 !!!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 22 2011 00:37 GMT
#2040
Haoz 25-0 in ranked 3's already haha.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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