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Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 22 2011 05:28 GMT
#2061
Like how TRM rages the hell out of his team then gives fb.. xD
derp
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 22 2011 05:35 GMT
#2062
On September 22 2011 12:53 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Casters with a stun are better. Taric Brand is lots of fun for instance.


Taric + Cait all day err day. Stun Trap Q Auto Ult dead. So easy to just wipe someone out.
It's your boy Guzma!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 22 2011 05:44 GMT
#2063
Cait taric so op even a person with 2 cases of downs can go 11-1 and have an 11 minute black cleaver.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
September 22 2011 05:58 GMT
#2064
I wanna practice some of my weaker supports (taric, ali) at some point, if any good ADs are interested (sry bad ADs, not looking for you!)
twitch.tv/cratonz
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 22 2011 06:07 GMT
#2065
Im sure locodoco would be willing to make some time in his schedule.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
September 22 2011 06:12 GMT
#2066
can get on skype and lispen to hisp voice, too

+ Show Spoiler +
i keed, i keed
twitch.tv/cratonz
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 22 2011 06:44 GMT
#2067
thkype*
derp
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
September 22 2011 06:55 GMT
#2068
Can't see Taric/Cait combo staying as it is. The caitl Q shot is clearly the problem, dealing an obscene ammount of damage. So much so that to catch a single unmitigated shot means death the 2nd time.

Cait is allready unkillable on lane, not exactly sure why she should always have the highest damage + longest range skill in the game to 1-shot other players. The little aim time it gives you to dodge is a broken concept when Taric removes that possibility to dodge.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17251 Posts
September 22 2011 07:07 GMT
#2069
Q isn't really an issue; its a skillshot that isn't so hard to dodge. 650 range, on the other hand...
twitch.tv/cratonz
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 22 2011 07:11 GMT
#2070
If you die to 2 single cait Q's you are doing something terribly terribly wrong. Cait Taric is not about getting a free Q off because of taric stun, it's getting a butload of dps off because of taric stun and free cait trap.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
September 22 2011 07:12 GMT
#2071
On September 22 2011 16:07 Craton wrote:
Q isn't really an issue; its a skillshot that isn't so hard to dodge. 650 range, on the other hand...


Yeah it's a skillshot so it get's massive buffs on top of it. It can be dodged so it gets even more massive buffs to compensate. All skillshots are made more powerfull to balance the fact that they can miss, wether it be range, damage, cost or CD. If a skill can be dodged it's made even more powerfull like the veigar meteor.


But when mixed with a champion that removes the chance to miss or be dodged, you just end up with a massively powerfull skill.
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 07:18:49
September 22 2011 07:17 GMT
#2072
EDIT double post
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
September 22 2011 07:18 GMT
#2073
Honestly if caitlyns drop worked like every other drop like teemos and shacos (eg. Melee range) the lane wouldnt even be a problem.

How the hell do you physically set up a trap halfway across a lane anyways
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
September 22 2011 07:34 GMT
#2074
On September 22 2011 16:18 Hakker wrote:
Honestly if caitlyns drop worked like every other drop like teemos and shacos (eg. Melee range) the lane wouldnt even be a problem.

How the hell do you physically set up a trap halfway across a lane anyways


Yeah and do you throw fireballs from your hands? Realism isn't a good argument in a game like this :D

On a serious note though, balance should be the first and only thing to consider, in which case something like melee range traps (or atleast considerably shorter range) would be a good nerf to taric/cait.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
September 22 2011 08:10 GMT
#2075
[image loading]

Awww yeah. Final score: 40-50
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 08:58:07
September 22 2011 08:55 GMT
#2076
On September 22 2011 16:12 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 16:07 Craton wrote:
Q isn't really an issue; its a skillshot that isn't so hard to dodge. 650 range, on the other hand...


Yeah it's a skillshot so it get's massive buffs on top of it. It can be dodged so it gets even more massive buffs to compensate. All skillshots are made more powerfull to balance the fact that they can miss, wether it be range, damage, cost or CD. If a skill can be dodged it's made even more powerfull like the veigar meteor.


But when mixed with a champion that removes the chance to miss or be dodged, you just end up with a massively powerfull skill.


So how come Taric + Ezreal sucks?(rhetorical question)

Seriously, instead of whining about a combination, DON"T GIVE THEM SUCH A POWERFULL COMBINATION.

Or take Kog instead. Kog + Soraka > Cait + Taric.

This is like whining about your opponent having 20 Thor's and you not being able to stop them.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 09:08:01
September 22 2011 09:06 GMT
#2077
On September 22 2011 17:55 Therealdevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 16:12 zalz wrote:
On September 22 2011 16:07 Craton wrote:
Q isn't really an issue; its a skillshot that isn't so hard to dodge. 650 range, on the other hand...


Yeah it's a skillshot so it get's massive buffs on top of it. It can be dodged so it gets even more massive buffs to compensate. All skillshots are made more powerfull to balance the fact that they can miss, wether it be range, damage, cost or CD. If a skill can be dodged it's made even more powerfull like the veigar meteor.


But when mixed with a champion that removes the chance to miss or be dodged, you just end up with a massively powerfull skill.


So how come Taric + Ezreal sucks?(rhetorical question)

Seriously, instead of whining about a combination, DON"T GIVE THEM SUCH A POWERFULL COMBINATION.

Or take Kog instead. Kog + Soraka > Cait + Taric.

This is like whining about your opponent having 20 Thor's and you not being able to stop them.


since when did taric ezreal suck o.O

edit: and regarding the whole taric/cait stuff, imo it comes down to caits range+passive and taric being able to provide a reliable single-target stun at pretty damn decent range.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
September 22 2011 09:14 GMT
#2078
Am I the only one who sees Taric as this:

[image loading]
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 10:00:54
September 22 2011 10:00 GMT
#2079
On September 22 2011 18:06 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 17:55 Therealdevil wrote:
On September 22 2011 16:12 zalz wrote:
On September 22 2011 16:07 Craton wrote:
Q isn't really an issue; its a skillshot that isn't so hard to dodge. 650 range, on the other hand...


Yeah it's a skillshot so it get's massive buffs on top of it. It can be dodged so it gets even more massive buffs to compensate. All skillshots are made more powerfull to balance the fact that they can miss, wether it be range, damage, cost or CD. If a skill can be dodged it's made even more powerfull like the veigar meteor.


But when mixed with a champion that removes the chance to miss or be dodged, you just end up with a massively powerfull skill.


So how come Taric + Ezreal sucks?(rhetorical question)

Seriously, instead of whining about a combination, DON"T GIVE THEM SUCH A POWERFULL COMBINATION.

Or take Kog instead. Kog + Soraka > Cait + Taric.

This is like whining about your opponent having 20 Thor's and you not being able to stop them.


since when did taric ezreal suck o.O

edit: and regarding the whole taric/cait stuff, imo it comes down to caits range+passive and taric being able to provide a reliable single-target stun at pretty damn decent range.


Because if you stand in between creeps Ezreal can only hit his W and R, even if you get stunned by Taric. And when Ezreal goes in to make use of a stun he puts his frail body to close when he needs to go around creeps and gets himself killed.
HAL9OOO
Profile Joined January 2011
United States176 Posts
September 22 2011 10:25 GMT
#2080
So Morde.... I don't think his shield does reduced shield gen from jungle creeps. And now that is is 30% at all levels... and Jungle Morde didn't get E before, is this a buff for jungle morde?
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