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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 22 2011 12:53 GMT
#2081
On September 22 2011 08:50 HazMat wrote:
The few rare times where Dan smites something correctly, he apologizes to his team for missing the smite because he was preoccupied.

I had a dragon get stolen yesterday where I click smite at ~500 health (WELL under my smite damage) Irelia ult comes from top of cliff and last-hits it. What boggles me is I got the 5 gold and smite went on CD, but didn't appear to do damage. Very confused.
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
September 22 2011 13:06 GMT
#2082
On September 22 2011 21:53 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 08:50 HazMat wrote:
The few rare times where Dan smites something correctly, he apologizes to his team for missing the smite because he was preoccupied.

I had a dragon get stolen yesterday where I click smite at ~500 health (WELL under my smite damage) Irelia ult comes from top of cliff and last-hits it. What boggles me is I got the 5 gold and smite went on CD, but didn't appear to do damage. Very confused.

Yeah, the timing on skills is kinda strange sometimes...

I often get to see my heal(nidalee) animation + cooldown starting, but the heal not having the time to heal anything before I die...
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 22 2011 13:06 GMT
#2083
On September 22 2011 21:53 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 08:50 HazMat wrote:
The few rare times where Dan smites something correctly, he apologizes to his team for missing the smite because he was preoccupied.

I had a dragon get stolen yesterday where I click smite at ~500 health (WELL under my smite damage) Irelia ult comes from top of cliff and last-hits it. What boggles me is I got the 5 gold and smite went on CD, but didn't appear to do damage. Very confused.


this happened to me yesterday
i got blue leashed and when it was at 420 i smited it for 0 damage
it was bizarre
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
September 22 2011 13:12 GMT
#2084
I wonder if that's what happened to my friend that died to blue...
Everyone needs a nemesis.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
September 22 2011 13:17 GMT
#2085
Probably has something to do with lag, like the animations of your character are started when you press the button, but only takes effect when it reaches the server, whereas the rest of the stuff takes effect as it reaches the server but you only see it when you receive the update.
Romanes eunt domus
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 22 2011 14:11 GMT
#2086
On September 22 2011 19:00 Therealdevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 18:06 barbsq wrote:
On September 22 2011 17:55 Therealdevil wrote:
On September 22 2011 16:12 zalz wrote:
On September 22 2011 16:07 Craton wrote:
Q isn't really an issue; its a skillshot that isn't so hard to dodge. 650 range, on the other hand...


Yeah it's a skillshot so it get's massive buffs on top of it. It can be dodged so it gets even more massive buffs to compensate. All skillshots are made more powerfull to balance the fact that they can miss, wether it be range, damage, cost or CD. If a skill can be dodged it's made even more powerfull like the veigar meteor.


But when mixed with a champion that removes the chance to miss or be dodged, you just end up with a massively powerfull skill.


So how come Taric + Ezreal sucks?(rhetorical question)

Seriously, instead of whining about a combination, DON"T GIVE THEM SUCH A POWERFULL COMBINATION.

Or take Kog instead. Kog + Soraka > Cait + Taric.

This is like whining about your opponent having 20 Thor's and you not being able to stop them.


since when did taric ezreal suck o.O

edit: and regarding the whole taric/cait stuff, imo it comes down to caits range+passive and taric being able to provide a reliable single-target stun at pretty damn decent range.


Because if you stand in between creeps Ezreal can only hit his W and R, even if you get stunned by Taric. And when Ezreal goes in to make use of a stun he puts his frail body to close when he needs to go around creeps and gets himself killed.

And if you stand between creeps with Cait there, her Q does SIGNIFICANTLY less damage. Granted, the trap makes that harder, but just saying.
It's your boy Guzma!
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 14:27:08
September 22 2011 14:26 GMT
#2087
On September 22 2011 22:17 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Probably has something to do with lag, like the animations of your character are started when you press the button, but only takes effect when it reaches the server, whereas the rest of the stuff takes effect as it reaches the server but you only see it when you receive the update.


Possible, but doubtful. I say this because when in extremely laggy situations / have disconnected, your character doesn't perform any animations if you hit buttons. This would happen if it was completely client-side

Unless you're implying that the animations start (i.e. the first few frames) and then the server receives the message and then tells the client to continue with the animation. But that would be horrible because it's splitting an animation into two.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 22 2011 14:47 GMT
#2088
Tried Ezreal for my first game of Dominion and oh boy anything ranged seems to suck. There is no way you can straight 1v1 any tank/assasin and kiting doesn't accomplish anything. (map too small/just wastes time)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 22 2011 14:47 GMT
#2089
Someone explain to me how on earth people go 10-0 after this reset.

I can go 4-0 in lane and have top farm with about a 2:1 lead.

Won't help if the team is 7-20 and I'm stuck top lane.

How the fuck does this work. :S
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
September 22 2011 14:49 GMT
#2090
Carry harder young'un
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 22 2011 14:53 GMT
#2091
On September 22 2011 23:47 Woony wrote:
Tried Ezreal for my first game of Dominion and oh boy anything ranged seems to suck. There is no way you can straight 1v1 any tank/assasin and kiting doesn't accomplish anything. (map too small/just wastes time)


Yeah, it's like TT in that regard. Any champ that needs build-up time, any champ that needs preparation or positioning, they're kinda screwed. Champs that can just run in and fight with no preamble (bruisers, assassins) just kinda own with the constant team-fight style of smaller maps.
It's your boy Guzma!
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
September 22 2011 14:54 GMT
#2092
dunno how the hell people are doing it either, getting some real terror teams...fiddles dying in jungle nonstop, ap olaf trolls, etc.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 16:09:57
September 22 2011 14:54 GMT
#2093
Take tele.

I made a map listing names I use (and will use) for brushes. I think it's a lot better than people saying 'clair this!' and support going 'where?', and sometimes reaction time of supports on ping may lose an opportunity.

Image is too large to upload using TL's uploader.

http://i.imgur.com/a8nyc.jpg

EDIT: forgot a brush.
Stuck.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 22 2011 14:56 GMT
#2094
On September 22 2011 23:47 r.Evo wrote:
Someone explain to me how on earth people go 10-0 after this reset.

I can go 4-0 in lane and have top farm with about a 2:1 lead.

Won't help if the team is 7-20 and I'm stuck top lane.

How the fuck does this work. :S


In this case it's deffo a case of duo > single, especially if one of the duo works hard to reduce teammates' mistakes (ie. jungler or ganker from mid).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 14:59:41
September 22 2011 14:58 GMT
#2095
On September 22 2011 23:47 r.Evo wrote:
Someone explain to me how on earth people go 10-0 after this reset.

I can go 4-0 in lane and have top farm with about a 2:1 lead.

Won't help if the team is 7-20 and I'm stuck top lane.

How the fuck does this work. :S


Looks like the opposing mid and bot lane won their lanes super hard and their top lane was a feeder (0-4 WTF?) but they carried hard enough. Perhaps the jungler focused on ganking mid and bot lanes to help them snowball as top was beyond coming back
It's all perspective.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
September 22 2011 15:02 GMT
#2096
So winning your first 6 games on an account gets you a 5 minute matchmaking queue for Dominion apparently. lol.
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 22 2011 15:15 GMT
#2097
On September 22 2011 23:53 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 23:47 Woony wrote:
Tried Ezreal for my first game of Dominion and oh boy anything ranged seems to suck. There is no way you can straight 1v1 any tank/assasin and kiting doesn't accomplish anything. (map too small/just wastes time)


Yeah, it's like TT in that regard. Any champ that needs build-up time, any champ that needs preparation or positioning, they're kinda screwed. Champs that can just run in and fight with no preamble (bruisers, assassins) just kinda own with the constant team-fight style of smaller maps.


Lee Sin seems to be #1 king of dominion by far from what Ive seen. No mana, small fights, not a lot of shit to block Q etc.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 22 2011 15:18 GMT
#2098
On September 23 2011 00:15 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 23:53 Requizen wrote:
On September 22 2011 23:47 Woony wrote:
Tried Ezreal for my first game of Dominion and oh boy anything ranged seems to suck. There is no way you can straight 1v1 any tank/assasin and kiting doesn't accomplish anything. (map too small/just wastes time)


Yeah, it's like TT in that regard. Any champ that needs build-up time, any champ that needs preparation or positioning, they're kinda screwed. Champs that can just run in and fight with no preamble (bruisers, assassins) just kinda own with the constant team-fight style of smaller maps.


Lee Sin seems to be #1 king of dominion by far from what Ive seen. No mana, small fights, not a lot of shit to block Q etc.


To be fair, Lee Sin is godmode in general. I don't want to be the one to call nerf, but a tanky dps champion with high base values, manaless, high mobility, sustain, lifesteal, AoE slow (that can help you ignore stealth), and fits in nearly every composition... that seems a bit silly to me.
It's your boy Guzma!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 22 2011 15:19 GMT
#2099
you forgot high scaling values too.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 22 2011 15:25 GMT
#2100
On September 23 2011 00:19 Mogwai wrote:
you forgot high scaling values too.

^And that.


But really Riot. Lee Sin is fine, don't change him into anything less than perfection in every shape and role. It would be unfair for him to have to compete against other champs.
It's your boy Guzma!
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