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On August 28 2011 07:02 LaNague wrote:
you can try morgana, she can cover melee creeps and ranged creeps in one pool if 2 equal waves collide. she couldnt do that before.
i am 95% sure about this.
I could get Morg pool to hit both most of the time like a month ago just fine. Sometimes the melee creeps will line up such that you can't get all of them. (Haven't tried it since the patch, though)
All aoe abilities have always had a slightly larger actual hitbox than the displayed one (both the aoe you see when you cast it and the visual aoe).
http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/12605/?p=5 for Riot's response.
There may be a problem but I haven't yet seen anything that looks convincing to me.
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United States47024 Posts
On August 28 2011 06:38 Alaric wrote:
Yeah, Brand's pillar, Annie Tibbers, and probably her flamethrower are bugged too. No wonder they got me even though they were so bad. I'd need to check Kennen's thunderball triggering range before I say anything on that spell though.
On August 28 2011 06:40 Nikon wrote:
Nasus' Spirit Fire was doing damage when I was clearly outside of the circle earlier today too.
Bear in mind that some of these may also be because of the "Use Movement Prediction" option, which was already pretty weird to begin with.
http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/just-atlanta/2743-lesser-known-mechanics-in-lol-part-one-animations-cast-queues-and-use-movement-prediction
On August 28 2011 07:02 LaNague wrote:
you can try morgana, she can cover melee creeps and ranged creeps in one pool if 2 equal waves collide. she couldnt do that before.
i am 95% sure about this.
Yes you could.
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The fountain range seems to have increased as well.
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does movement prediction only work with AoE or also with single target skillshots?
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On August 28 2011 07:43 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 06:38 Alaric wrote:
Yeah, Brand's pillar, Annie Tibbers, and probably her flamethrower are bugged too. No wonder they got me even though they were so bad. I'd need to check Kennen's thunderball triggering range before I say anything on that spell though. Show nested quote +On August 28 2011 06:40 Nikon wrote:
Nasus' Spirit Fire was doing damage when I was clearly outside of the circle earlier today too. Bear in mind that some of these may also be because of the "Use Movement Prediction" option, which was already pretty weird to begin with. http://rog.clgaming.net/blogs/just-atlanta/2743-lesser-known-mechanics-in-lol-part-one-animations-cast-queues-and-use-movement-predictionShow nested quote +On August 28 2011 07:02 LaNague wrote:
you can try morgana, she can cover melee creeps and ranged creeps in one pool if 2 equal waves collide. she couldnt do that before.
i am 95% sure about this. Yes you could.
no, you could not get all 6 creeps into a single pool consistently, most of the time its 3 ranged and 1 melee. Now its all 6 at once every single time. Unless i was lucky.
i would make a screenie to show what i mean, but they are all black
edit: i tried it again, i get all 6 creeps into my pool 9/10 times.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Okay. Got an idea. Did some testing with Cone Based Spells. (Kass, Cho, MF, Annie, Morde, Panth)
If you guys can get a good feel for how much more cone based spells go over from the indicator that would be great. Currently, I have the fact that most cone based spells go over by about 1mm compared to display, sometimes even 1 minion length.
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meh, im still convinced that the pool is larger than usual :D
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Morgana pool is fine. Could always hit entire wave.
I think Nid swipe is bugged. I was hitting things from much further than I usually do.
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Cassi aoe seems a bit bigger than usual.
Also everybody is building skarner wrong and it's pissing me right off.
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Its not the spells that are bugged. Heroes hitboxes are bigger.
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On August 28 2011 08:41 Odds wrote:
Also everybody is building skarner wrong and it's pissing me right off.
go on
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Seems to me like skarner requires a lot of AD+AP+CDR to do enough damage to compete but as a melee he can't afford to get these stats over tankiness. Hybrid jax has better ratio and the best steriod in the game not to mention is more tanky and more mobile naturally.
Also skarners E seems totally terrible, outside or lane, needs a buff.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
There are some known issues with the EU Servers right now. It is being looked into by Riot.
Just a heads up.
EDIT: Make a post on LoL Official Forums informing people. Immediately get down-voted despite not even being Riot Employee. Real.
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On August 28 2011 09:31 Slayer91 wrote:
Seems to me like skarner requires a lot of AD+AP+CDR to do enough damage to compete but as a melee he can't afford to get these stats over tankiness. Hybrid jax has better ratio and the best steriod in the game not to mention is more tanky and more mobile naturally.
Also skarners E seems totally terrible, outside or lane, needs a buff.
I dont think skarner needs cdr cuz AS=cdr on him. If you compare him to jax then you should also mention that skarner has inbuilt sustain and AoE damage.
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does anyone know how to play as talon? i fail miserably with him... -_-
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skarner's inbuilt sustain is pretty weak. He's designed as a hunt-one-guy-down sort so his aoe is either short ranged (tied with counter strike) or his E which is underwhelming.
CDR increases his AS benefits. Full CDR = QautoQautoQautoQauto. It also lets his ult be more often used.
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On August 28 2011 11:23 wussleeQ wrote:
does anyone know how to play as talon? i fail miserably with him... -_-
what are you failing at? laning? teamfights? ganks? all of the above?
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Cho's AoEs seem a lot bigger than they should be. I was getting knocked up almost constantly when I seemed to be a full champion model away (as Nasus), and the silence feels like it goes about 50% further than it should.
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 28 2011 12:08 Raynian wrote:
Cho's AoEs seem a lot bigger than they should be. I was getting knocked up almost constantly when I seemed to be a full champion model away (as Nasus), and the silence feels like it goes about 50% further than it should.
Yeah Chogath's AoEs are huge now. Tested a few things today with Cait's traps and Cass's poison. Put a trap down in front of Cass about a character away and it triggered. Was so dumb, as was Cass's poison. Was hitting me from a character away as well. Not even close, but still triggering.
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Kog's ult is also ridiculous. AoE is like twice the range of the particle now. -_-
I literally moved back from it the moment it was shot with boots 2, it landed where I was standing, and I still took damage.
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