He obviously isn't susceptible to bad players. Somehow rjs can carry bads no prob.

With that said, it's probably much easier to find games with a top 500 account than a top 20.

Orpheos

United States1663 Posts

August 26 2011 16:38 GMT

#782

On August 27 2011 00:54 sylverfyre wrote:

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On August 27 2011 00:36 Senx wrote:

On August 27 2011 00:26 Shockk wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the right place but it is the LoL forum and it is the general discussion so I think it might fit.

I watched the LoL finals at IEM and it really looked interesting. I've played DotA years back, HoN some time ago, and a friend of mine is an avid LoL ranked player, so I thought, sure, why not, give it a try. It did look cool after all.

My first week or so with LoL has been a motivational nightmare. The patch difficulties added to it, though such things happen and I try to filter that out from my general frustration, but the games ... oh, the games. The horror.

I mean, sure. The DotA community wasn't exactly nice to begin with, and HoN's playerbase is a twisted parody of what a community should be like, so I didn't expect too much from the first games in LoL, despite having heard a lot of praise about it being the more "mature" of the MobA games' communities. But it's the same! It's as if I were playing HoN all over again.

So far, I've played a dozen games or so, and each and every one of the has had either flamers, leavers, incomplete teams, guys preaching on chat about how the game should be played or whole teams saying nothing while being slaugthered over and over again. I've either been playing with loudmouthed (or mute) egomaniacs or loudmouthed (or mute) people unable to react (and apparently unable to complete the tutorial as well).

I couldn't care less about skill-disparities, I expected to lose most of the first games and I have - that happens. But I haven't had any fun so far. Nothing. Except for the first 20 minutes of the first game (before it degenerated into a flamefest) and when I bought Morgana, I haven't really enjoyed myself in this game because how awful team-wise my team"mates" have been overall. Sure, most people on my level will just start the game, I'm fine with that, BUT NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM TALKS (constructively). Noone asks for help, noone chats ingame, noone responds to hints, pings, targets, "care"s or "ss bot"s or anything. Almost every match feels like playing multiplayer with 3-4 other guys that happen to play single player in my game.

Does this get better on higher levels? Do ranked matches have better teams, more communication, more real human interaction? The game does look fun and it could be fun if I felt like playing in a real team, but right now, I don't see myself playing this any more.

What the hell?, you state you played dota and hon and that LoL is the same in terms of the community and the people you have to deal with, so how is this surprising?.

What makes you think this would stop? You're always playing with or against retards, at any level. Its just a matter of having a thick skin, which you SHOULD have developed by now from playing dota and hon.

The MOBA community is the worst out of any gaming community, if you can't deal with people being retards you should not be playing these types of games. It will never change, because its a team game -- you're stuck with 4 random people. Rage will happen, stupidty will happen. Deal with it.

The QQ from hotshotgg at 2400 elo and joeschmo at 1321 elo is no different, its just a matter of perspective.

That's why Liquidparty exists, because going premade alleviates at least much of the BM, even if it doesn't really alleviate the lack of coordination all the time. I think I play premade normals 90% of the time, because I really DON'T have the thick skin "necessary" (well, I don't get upset, I just don't have fun trying to play with retards)

you mean afkparty? jkjk.... kinda....

but yea, to the original guy, LoL gets alot better once you get leveled up abit and out of the SUPER noob zone. levels 1-15 or so will be populated by so much more ragers and leavers and feeders etc. but once you get to a more respectable MM elo, you wont get them EVERY game.
also learn to use the /ignore all command and just carry the shit out of you team for a couple of games.

LaNague

Germany9118 Posts

August 26 2011 17:09 GMT

#783

first lvlvs have a lot of smurfs that created an account to stomp some newbies and then rage when they have newbies in their team and dont win.

gets better, the higher elo, the less of the super dumb ragers you get. But it never stops completely.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

August 26 2011 17:28 GMT

#784

Regarding Swain I find him somewhat weak until level 3-4, since nevermore's cooldown is so huge low level, and his other spells have an average range. You need the snare in case someone commits, but it's not really useful by itself if you don't put yourself in front of your opponent to cast torment and decrepify. So against Cass really good range, I was thinking that was a disadvantageous matchup.
I wouldn't call him bad though, he can get quite tanky, especially for a mage, all the while dishing out good damage thanks to the multi-target and torment. Perhaps his DoT hurt be since he can't burst, I guess.

r.Evo

Germany14081 Posts

August 26 2011 17:35 GMT

#785

For us Eurofags, who exactly is this rjs guy and what/how does he play? Any replays? What makes it so easy for him to carry "baddies" around 1800 ELO?

rigwarl

United States540 Posts

August 26 2011 17:46 GMT

#786

rjs isn't anything special, all the top players can carry baddies at 1800 ELO because their significantly worse than you and you win your lane 90% of the time then kill the rest of their team.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

August 26 2011 17:48 GMT

#787

Except most 1800 people go on about winning their lane and losing because team too heavy

rigwarl

United States540 Posts

August 26 2011 17:49 GMT

#788

that sounds like most 800-2300 IMO

Ryuu314

United States12679 Posts

August 26 2011 17:51 GMT

#789

Well tbh unless like 2 of the 3 lanes lose miserably it really isn't hard to carry your team after u win ur own lane.

Tooplark

United States3977 Posts

August 26 2011 17:54 GMT

#790

Depends on how hard you win, with which champ, and how good you are at carrying bads o3o

Ryuu314

United States12679 Posts

August 26 2011 17:59 GMT

#791

On August 27 2011 02:54 Tooplark wrote:
Depends on how hard you win, with which champ, and how good you are at carrying bads o3o

Well I just found that usually if 2 of 3 lanes lose miserably as in far outfarmed and killed several times it's ridiculously hard to carry because as a team you're just ridiculously behind in gold.

Asdkmoga

United States496 Posts

August 26 2011 17:59 GMT

#792

Why do summoner spells consume Mantra on Karma when it was complained about weeks ago?

JackDino

Gabon6219 Posts

August 26 2011 18:01 GMT

#793

On August 27 2011 02:59 Asdkmoga wrote:
Why do summoner spells consume Mantra on Karma when it was complained about weeks ago?

It's bad karma, better be nice and don't flame your team next time.

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

August 26 2011 18:01 GMT

#794

And I found that this "2 out of 3 lanes lose horribly" thing is quite common. One of those 2 typically is the first pick Orianna on your team.

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

August 26 2011 18:13 GMT

#795

On August 27 2011 02:35 r.Evo wrote:
For us Eurofags, who exactly is this rjs guy and what/how does he play? Any replays? What makes it so easy for him to carry "baddies" around 1800 ELO?

rjs is just your stereotypical Korean. He has solid mechanics and "lucky", if you will. But it says something about his skills (or ability to grind) to get 4 accounts to the NA top 20.

He likes to solo top a lot, had a really big hard on for Jarvan until a few patches ago. His latest smurf, Godrjsdnd IV is a little homage to Jarvan and his 4th account.

He isn't better than Lilac or Saruan (who I think are the two gud Koreans on NA that aren't fabulously out of shape) but he isn't that much worse than them either.. He's like another MakNooN tbh.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

August 26 2011 18:20 GMT

#796

What is the sterotype for LoL koreans?

0123456789

United States3216 Posts

August 26 2011 18:20 GMT

#797

On August 27 2011 03:13 NeoIllusions wrote:

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God isn't lucky. His janna mid is a freaking beast carry. There's lucky in solo queue, but you're not getting up there without skills and brains.

On August 27 2011 03:20 Slayer91 wrote:
What is the sterotype for LoL koreans?

All the koreans I see playing LoL have these like godlike LoL skills. Last hits are perfect to almsot perfect, their skill usage is like beyond anything, especially shit like skillshots and stuff, and they play their characters and their UP characters to like full potential.

Roffles