EPT[Patch 1.0.0.124: Talon] General Discussion - Page 180
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Southlight
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locodoco
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On September 10 2011 17:00 Southlight wrote: Actually Smite's kinda fallen out of favor on TT of late red :> why? i thought tt revolved around controlling dragon and liz | ||
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Southlight
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JokerSan
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Southlight
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Edit: Also no one bothered mentioning it, but the team you played against was pretty dumb hero choices on TT too. Global teleport! On a tiny map. Anti-ranged DPS! on a map dominated by bruisers. Anivia! On a map with no blue buff. Rly. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On September 10 2011 17:18 Southlight wrote: Having like Smite Flash makes you die to someone with Exh Flash :[ Then you don't even really get to dragon/liz control cuz you're just dead. The exception is the heroes that actually jungle full-time, but yeah, otherwise you don't see it as much anymo, AFAIK. so strong to have a full jungler having somebody with wriggles and smite puts so much pressure on the top half of the map, it's just absurd. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On September 10 2011 17:36 UniversalSnip wrote: so strong to have a full jungler having somebody with wriggles and smite puts so much pressure on the top half of the map, it's just absurd. Against a team that expects it though you end up with a ridiculously free-farmed bruiser bot lane and a fucked up hero, so it more-or-less evens out. Many heroes otherwise get Wriggles anyways, and Dragon is really weak, so you tend not to even need Smite to take down dragon in 3 seconds. Edit: At least, from my experience consisting of all of like 20 games LOL | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
I can't see a smite less team win a game, ever. It's like a jungler not taking smite on 5's because he "can" but 100 times worse. | ||
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HazMat
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Southlight
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HazMat
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Southlight
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Edit: On September 10 2011 17:50 HazMat wrote: Who gets green/white buffs? Usually top lane gets Wriggles, bot lane gets Wriggles depending on hero as well (Ez/Vayne/Jax/etc.). Most of the time I see both top lane get Wriggles and clear jungle really fast while lane is pushing etc. Map's generally devoid of creep. Edit2: Janna OP. Especially on TT <3 | ||
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crate
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HazMat
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Southlight
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On September 10 2011 17:53 HazMat wrote: Dunno I really can't see a team with Janna + no jungle + no smite winning a game but I'm not one for theorycrafting so I'll leave it at that. I probably would be in the same boat if I hadn't played with C9 last year and learned his setup, hahah. Just saying, I see a lot of no-Smite teams that deal with it with Wriggles top or whatnot. A lot of heroes these days clear jungle at middle levels too quickly and easily :x The real danger of the setup is the top lane being vulnerable to ganks, but in that case you'd just swap mid and bot and have the solo at bot. Janna dicking around with wardspam and DRings makes junglers' life hell though for ganking, unless LS/Noc (which is why I've been banning LS of late, and Noc unless banning Rumble) :x Janna lanes are pretty retarded to try to gank. And if the other team has no dedicated jungler, support +1 is still stronger than 2 no-support. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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PS: "I see a lot of X" + "only like 20 games", does not compute | ||
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Southlight
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HazMat
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http://www.solomid.net/forums/index.php?/topic/8273-3v3-tier-list/ "Smite determines the game right off the start. If an enemy team does not have smite you autowin." -_- | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Edit: On September 10 2011 18:01 HazMat wrote: "Smite determines the game right off the start. If an enemy team does not have smite you autowin." -_- Mweh, I mean I'm not saying it's the end-all-be-all or whatnot but I honestly have never seen Smite change the course of TT except in the hands of a dedicated jungler. And we ran that with you and EzPz way back when (WW jungle). And I was like "man junglers are OP on TT!" And then I played with C9's bizarre setup and we stomped people. They could be bad opponents. Fine. But it was still a "fairly high" rating level (1700 + 1700 + me at 1500) IMO especially considering how long ago it was before rating inflation (though not sure if inflation's really bothered TT), so I'm also "fairly" confident in saying that it's perfectly viable at not-top-level TT. Obviously stuff's changed since then, items, heroes etc. But even back then I found Smite to be overrated in that sort of setup. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Sorry for attacking you like this, sort of just irked me <3 | ||
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