EPT[Patch 1.0.0.124: Talon] General Discussion - Page 170
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 09 2011 10:37 red_ wrote: Sylla would probably be awful since you wouldn't be able to put items on his bear. I'm not sure if aura's/aoe buffs and whatnot apply to pets in this game either... not something I ever cared to check. Auras/buffs that apply to minions apply to pets as well. Auras/buffs that apply to champions still apply to certain pets that count as champions (IIRC Morde ghost, Shaco/Leblanc clone, and Yorick's ulti ghost all count as champions). | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
Yorick sucks. I hate his minions, i hate his bugs. His ultimate seems like either godlike (on a ranged dps) or a really really really bad zilean ult. I'm still not even really sure what it does. It gives you 2 Vaynes. Because 1 farmed Vayne isn't enough. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:27 Craton wrote: Yorick's going to be one of the next fotm champs once people play him more. He's stupid strong. Pretty much this, he's got very strong poke and honestly trying to lane versus him is a pain the likes I can't even describe. Stick him in a top or mid lane and watch the hilarity. Hell you could stick him in bot and he'd still do well. I just really don't see why anyone could think of him as terrible. Give him a shot if you get a chance, I was not prepared for the trouble I got trying to lane versus him. The only bad thing about Yorick is his late game isn't as strong as his laning phase, however that's not to say it's bad at all. Hopefully people will see it soon enough. | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On September 09 2011 11:04 Parnage wrote: Pretty much this, he's got very strong poke and honestly trying to lane versus him is a pain the likes I can't even describe. Stick him in a top or mid lane and watch the hilarity. Hell you could stick him in bot and he'd still do well. I just really don't see why anyone could think of him as terrible. Give him a shot if you get a chance, I was not prepared for the trouble I got trying to lane versus him. The only bad thing about Yorick is his late game isn't as strong as his laning phase, however that's not to say it's bad at all. Hopefully people will see it soon enough. does he even need a lategame when he can clone the carry plus mini zilean ult him? | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 09 2011 11:11 HazMat wrote: Ezpz on Loci's stream :o His team is too heavy though...or Loci is just too good at carrying with morgana ^_^ | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On September 09 2011 11:17 LaNague wrote: does he even need a lategame when he can clone the carry plus mini zilean ult him? Well to say it's bad is relative to the strength of his early game. His ult late game on the carry is hilariously good. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On September 09 2011 10:37 red_ wrote: Sylla would probably be awful since you wouldn't be able to put items on his bear. I'm not sure if aura's/aoe buffs and whatnot apply to pets in this game either... not something I ever cared to check. By direct port I mean that he would be the same, like being able to put items on him.. so I can see now making him a beast of a tank :D..., and control him, etc. The problem is that this game isn't set up for even controlling the bear, controlling annies bear is not as complex as malphas for instance, you can hotkey malphas, I don't believe you can do this with annie, i almost always feel awkward alt clicking with tibbers and malphas even has activated abilities.. his abilities and booboo can be hotkeyed and controlled cross map, or minions you get with ophelia. And yes storm spirit would be cool, but I think kass is as close as were gonna get. I love League of Legends, but the no pets thing is one thing I really dislike. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 09 2011 13:35 BlueBird. wrote: By direct port I mean that he would be the same, like being able to put items on him.. so I can see now making him a beast of a tank :D..., and control him, etc. The problem is that this game isn't set up for even controlling the bear, controlling annies bear is not as complex as malphas for instance, you can hotkey malphas, I don't believe you can do this with annie, i almost always feel awkward alt clicking with tibbers and malphas even has activated abilities.. his abilities and booboo can be hotkeyed and controlled cross map, or minions you get with ophelia. And yes storm spirit would be cool, but I think kass is as close as were gonna get. I love League of Legends, but the no pets thing is one thing I really dislike. No selection also means no Meepo...who is like one of the top 5 reasons why I'm waiting so impatiently for DotA2. Meepo was so fun D: Also, regarding Yorick. His lategame really isn't nearly as bad as people think it is. Atmogs is fucking good on every single bruiser. Yorick is no exception, especially when his passive gives him on average 35% more damage/35% damage reduction. All the Yorick hate makes me go wtf. I build him Manamune into Atmogs into FoN/Triforce and I'm tanky as fuck and hit like a truck. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On September 09 2011 14:45 Ryuu314 wrote: No selection also means no Meepo...who is like one of the top 5 reasons why I'm waiting so impatiently for DotA2. Meepo was so fun D: Also, regarding Yorick. His lategame really isn't nearly as bad as people think it is. Atmogs is fucking good on every single bruiser. Yorick is no exception, especially when his passive gives him on average 35% more damage/35% damage reduction. All the Yorick hate makes me go wtf. I build him Manamune into Atmogs into FoN/Triforce and I'm tanky as fuck and hit like a truck. Indeed. I got wrecked by a yorick so hard, I was embarrassed I didn't know how good he was. Give him farm and he will fuck shit up with his 200+ ad on his ranged qwe shit. And he takes like 5% damage. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
i hazily fuzzily remember that yorick's ult would take a snapshot of copy target at point of ulti, meaning buffs like janna E and nunu W and taric R would work on the copy. is this still true/false? | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
In other news, GOOOOOOOOOOOOLD elo! | ||
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-Kato-
Spain1146 Posts
On September 09 2011 06:05 -Kato- wrote: Wasn't Dominion coming up today? Didnt I hear that according to PC Gamer Dominion would be released on the 8th? | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:28 -Kato- wrote: Didnt I hear that according to PC Gamer Dominion would be released on the 8th? You may have heard something like that but riot doesn't give a shit about what you've heard:p | ||
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NightWalks
Latvia252 Posts
Also, regarding Yorick. His lategame really isn't nearly as bad as people think it is. Atmogs is fucking good on every single bruiser. I put my Yorick in shelf due W changes . AD ratio was droped for AP ratio so all that atmogs goodnes was lost . My main way of laning was WE over and over again . He used to have E at 650 range so W E was safe way to harass and farm . W base dmg isn't that great , but it's AoE and it made sense to lvl it as you would march into mid game with lv4-5 W and manamune who would boost it's Dmg. Now without AD ratio i can't force myself to put more then 1 point in W for slow . Q was boosted by 20% and has AD ratio , BUT it's mele range and what i liked in W was ability to AoE tower hugers when you push . E range and heal nerf + ppl learned to kill ghost asap made it way harder to sustain AND harass. You can still stay in lane and farm , but so will enemy . Ult nerfs doesn't bother me more or less as by time carries can dish out dmg you will have it anyways lv2-3 TLDR: Pre nerf Yprick bossed the lane , to use advantage to get through mid game and then geared up in end game act as real tanky dps . After nerf he isn't boss enough to gain enough advantage to last through mid game AND IMO w nerf made his mid game real bad. IF you still manage to get to end game he becomes decent once again thnx to his passive and Q . | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
I hate him since I never meet any good Shacos and all they do is last hit kill steal, its even worse that its free week for him smh. | ||
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NightWalks
Latvia252 Posts
What I learned from good Shacos : Don't count on them , don't feal safe when hes close don't expect anything from him . Teamfights are 4v5 moust of time BUT then Shaco jumps out and does great cleanup . Enemy try to retreat and run into boxes Schaco made while 4v5 was going on. I would say Shaco requires premade team , otherwise it ends in rage fest from his own team even if he does good as his kit evolves arround sneeky backstab ks'r to farm up and be usefull in end game . | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On September 09 2011 16:52 BouBou.865 wrote: Yorick is a really really strong laner, people confuse Yorick with the pre-buff yorick. yorick poops on stuff like Nasus real hard. In other news, GOOOOOOOOOOOOLD elo! O rly. MR page with 21 defense and null magic start would like to have a word with you. Yorick is weak outside of lane he is more of a sustained dude. | ||
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