EPT[Patch 1.0.0.124: Talon] General Discussion - Page 171
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epoc
Finland1190 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On September 09 2011 18:02 NightWalks wrote: Yeah i share your pain when it come to free week shacos and similar champs . I'm not good with him myself , but atleast i admit that and doen't plague other summoners by instalocking him 24/7. What I learned from good Shacos : Don't count on them , don't feal safe when hes close don't expect anything from him . Teamfights are 4v5 moust of time BUT then Shaco jumps out and does great cleanup . Enemy try to retreat and run into boxes Schaco made while 4v5 was going on. I would say Shaco requires premade team , otherwise it ends in rage fest from his own team even if he does good as his kit evolves arround sneeky backstab ks'r to farm up and be usefull in end game . all he needs is a team that doesnt fight 4v5.. He can splitpush lanes all day and when he gets his core items, you need 2 people to stop him. | ||
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Sponge75
England194 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:25 Sponge75 wrote: How do you stop Udyr counterjungling you? Like I know he's doing my red I go to stop him and he can just 1v1 me... What champ are you playing? If he does your red at a fairly early level, you just wait for him to get low and then you can kill him while red is still hitting him. Typically you also get your laners to join the fight so you can cut off his retreat and kill him quickly (and collect some assist gold). | ||
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Sponge75
England194 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:28 spinesheath wrote: What champ are you playing? If he does your red at a fairly early level, you just wait for him to get low and then you can kill him while red is still hitting him. Typically you also get your laners to join the fight so you can cut off his retreat and kill him quickly (and collect some assist gold). Was playing noct, it was around the time the second reds up, think I may have just had a retarded solo Q team cos when I pinged they didn't come to help. So assuming your team doesn't come what can you do | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:31 Sponge75 wrote: Was playing noct, it was around the time the second reds up, think I may have just had a retarded solo Q team cos when I pinged they didn't come to help. So assuming your team doesn't come what can you do well, if your team doesnt come to your own jungle to get a free kill, you are screwed and have to 1v1. But normally, if the game is even, catching udyr in your jungle is a free kill because your team is there 10 seconds faster than the enemy team. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Need the character not to be garen, somehow I do badly with him. Basically, I need the Blackops FAMAS of LoL. Any suggestions? | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:39 57 Corvette wrote: So what is a good champion to learn that can carry the entire team? I can't carry hard enough with Ashe yet, and most of my other characters aren't hard carrying champions or are tanks/supports (Gragas, Swain etc). Need the character not to be garen, somehow I do badly with him. Basically, I need the Blackops FAMAS of LoL. Any suggestions? If you still are at an ELO where one person can carry 4 baddies, then: the champ you're best at. I know, it's a dumb answer, but it's so darn true. I could name a few champs that really snowball well like Akali, Twitch, LeBonk and stuff, but in all honesty, that won't mean anything if your playstyle does not fit them. Just fall in love with a single champ and learn to carry the shit out of your team with him/her. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
ashe used to be able to but from a sidelane its pretty meh. You have to be 10x better then the other ad carry basically. | ||
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iaeuy
United States249 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:39 57 Corvette wrote: So what is a good champion to learn that can carry the entire team? I can't carry hard enough with Ashe yet, and most of my other characters aren't hard carrying champions or are tanks/supports (Gragas, Swain etc). Need the character not to be garen, somehow I do badly with him. Basically, I need the Blackops FAMAS of LoL. Any suggestions? The heroes you listed are fine, especially gragas. AP Gragas is a monster in solo queue that people in lower elo havent picked up yet. You have good early laning unless you get outplayed, massive post 6 burst, best mobility out of all ap carries, ability to distance farm, best poke, massive aoe damage, ability to initiate, awesome escapes...TBH I can't think of a better solo queue caster than gragas also... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OeQtt.jpg) :D /brag | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
On September 09 2011 20:04 epoc wrote: I have no idea why they haven't copied earthshaker fissure to lol. Like one of the few fun ability concepts you still have left to copy Cos they need to design a champ with generic onhit Q effect around it silly. But yeah, looking at the last 15 champs, there has a been sharp drop in quality for like the last 10, with champs like Wukong Rumble etc having one new ability and a ton of rehashed ones. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 09 2011 21:31 Sponge75 wrote: Was playing noct, it was around the time the second reds up, think I may have just had a retarded solo Q team cos when I pinged they didn't come to help. So assuming your team doesn't come what can you do Unless he's noticeably ahead of you already or has a buff advantage, you should be able to 1v1 him, especially if he's taken damage from red. You have fear, spellblock, and vastly superior offensive steroids. Hell, one of Nocturne's advantages as a jungler is how GOOD he is at 1v1ing people during early jungling. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Suddenly im the badguy for farming on this moron even though the first 3 kills were completly legit. | ||
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NightWalks
Latvia252 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:58 crate wrote: Getting fed on Swain is fun because then you just press R in a teamfight and they can't kill you. Fun part is that scrubs still keep trying to kill you over and over again in teemfights  I find Swain a great carrie coz of his tankyines . He doesn't snowball insanely as fed akali or annie/brand , but he is harder to stop thnx to lazooorbird and W and CAWCAWCAW R | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On September 09 2011 23:27 NightWalks wrote: Fun part is that scrubs still keep trying to kill you over and over again in teemfights I find Swain a great carrie coz of his tankyines . He doesn't snowball insanely as fed akali or annie/brand , but he is harder to stop thnx to lazooorbird and W and CAWCAWCAW R Swain top/mid with jungle fiddles...CAWCAWCAWCAWCAW | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On September 09 2011 22:58 crate wrote: Getting fed on Swain is fun because then you just press R in a teamfight and they can't kill you. You eat ignite and die instantly. | ||
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