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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
September 08 2011 21:07 GMT
#3341
On September 09 2011 06:02 Southlight wrote:
I don't even goddamn care about the metagame or the QQ by AP heroes whom are blatantly stupid at the moment when they get blue buff.

Take away the CD? I'd take away the mana recharge. It's preposterous how sustainable people become with just blue buff. Otherwise give red buff 80% life steal please. It's only fair.


Lifesteal? LIFESTEAL?

% health regen / 5, bitch!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 08 2011 21:11 GMT
#3342
On September 09 2011 06:07 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 06:02 Southlight wrote:
I don't even goddamn care about the metagame or the QQ by AP heroes whom are blatantly stupid at the moment when they get blue buff.

Take away the CD? I'd take away the mana recharge. It's preposterous how sustainable people become with just blue buff. Otherwise give red buff 80% life steal please. It's only fair.


Lifesteal? LIFESTEAL?

% health regen / 5, bitch!


You're right, we should give them 20% hp regen per second, like blue buff.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#3343
On September 09 2011 06:02 Southlight wrote:
I don't even goddamn care about the metagame or the QQ by AP heroes whom are blatantly stupid at the moment when they get blue buff.

Take away the CD? I'd take away the mana recharge. It's preposterous how sustainable people become with just blue buff. Otherwise give red buff 80% life steal please. It's only fair.


Really everything blue buff does is preposterous. The problem I've been trying, and failing, to highlight is that its current power level is so throughly entwined with AP carries, jungling and the objectives of the game that fixing it is going to be like pulling threads out of a tapestry. You can't just tug the problem thread and call it a day because half of the tapestry is going to go with it and need reweaving.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
September 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#3344
On September 09 2011 06:11 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 06:07 r.Evo wrote:
On September 09 2011 06:02 Southlight wrote:
I don't even goddamn care about the metagame or the QQ by AP heroes whom are blatantly stupid at the moment when they get blue buff.

Take away the CD? I'd take away the mana recharge. It's preposterous how sustainable people become with just blue buff. Otherwise give red buff 80% life steal please. It's only fair.


Lifesteal? LIFESTEAL?

% health regen / 5, bitch!


You're right, we should give them 20% hp regen per second, like blue buff.

Mundo approves of this idea.
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
September 08 2011 21:21 GMT
#3345
wahhhh bye bye mac client =[
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 08 2011 21:22 GMT
#3346
On September 09 2011 06:21 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
wahhhh bye bye mac client =[



I'm seriously considering just stopping this game as a few of my irl friends only played on Mac and now they can't play anymore.
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
September 08 2011 21:36 GMT
#3347
Why are we ranting about blue buff when both sides each have it to balance it out? It's good that it's useful and provides another strategic objective worth fighting over. Only reason why red buff was nerfed was because they were trying to nerf ranged heroes and make melee dps more viable. If you don't want their anivia to have blue buff your team has means of taking it away from them.

Why would AD need 20% hp regen per second when they got a sustain item with a free ward ^_^
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 08 2011 21:38 GMT
#3348
they should implement the crit chance and mspd buffs from TT into SR
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
September 08 2011 21:40 GMT
#3349
On September 09 2011 05:53 Mogwai wrote:
memorable is the word you're looking for.

anyway

Curse of the Sad Mummy, Idol of Durrand, Paranoia, Cataclysm, Finales Funkim, Crowstorm, Unstoppable Force, Summon Tibbers are all pretty epic in one way or another if you ask me. Their animations might not be as epic or w/e, I have no idea since I never played HoN, but there are still very powerful, very game changing abilities out there that just do cool things.




The old champions are really interesting in my opinion. But lately it's just been the same thing over and over. Every skill seems to be a copy or a mashup of other skills already in the game. They keep releasing champions with "combos", which in my opinion is the hardest to balance. Either the combo is too powerful and then you have op champ or the combo is too weak and you have useless champ. After jarvan it seems like ulti epicness dropped so much. Vayne's is a buff, talon's makes him disappear, leona's is just a brand w that stuns and monkey king spins.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
September 08 2011 21:42 GMT
#3350
On September 09 2011 06:36 mrgerry wrote:
Why are we ranting about blue buff when both sides each have it to balance it out? It's good that it's useful and provides another strategic objective worth fighting over. Only reason why red buff was nerfed was because they were trying to nerf ranged heroes and make melee dps more viable. If you don't want their anivia to have blue buff your team has means of taking it away from them.

Why would AD need 20% hp regen per second when they got a sustain item with a free ward ^_^

25% CDR usually also means a bunch of extra CC that - owns melees.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 21:48:25
September 08 2011 21:48 GMT
#3351
What is this? I used to play a terrible Annie but suddenly everything feels pitch perfect. I ain't talking 1 year ago but maybe a month. I was never good with Annie.

Suddenly i am bitch slapping just about every lane i get thrown against me.


Are you truly that good movespeed quints?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 08 2011 21:52 GMT
#3352
On September 09 2011 06:22 Slow Motion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 06:21 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
wahhhh bye bye mac client =[



I'm seriously considering just stopping this game as a few of my irl friends only played on Mac and now they can't play anymore.

Just to throw this out here again, but I have talked about Mac Client in the TL Tech Support Thread. Really busy with work this week (and slightly sick) but I will be answering related questions + posting more in-depth on weekend. As you might have noticed, my posts this week have been pretty terse.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 08 2011 22:08 GMT
#3353
On September 09 2011 05:53 Mogwai wrote:
memorable is the word you're looking for.

anyway

Curse of the Sad Mummy, Idol of Durrand, Paranoia, Cataclysm, Finales Funkim, Crowstorm, Unstoppable Force, Summon Tibbers are all pretty epic in one way or another if you ask me. Their animations might not be as epic or w/e, I have no idea since I never played HoN, but there are still very powerful, very game changing abilities out there that just do cool things.


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 05:50 Southlight wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:02 Mogwai wrote:
I'm arguing with the point of "WHAAA WHAAA WHAAA WHAAA, DotA champs were so much more original and awesome!" And that's it. Riot could use some work and especially as the game is aging they need to cut back on champs, but DotA has fucking Leoric FFS. 3 Passives and a point and click stun, real champ design. I get really pissed at nostalgia driving people to irrationally dislike new shit because they have selective memory of old shit.


I see your Leoric and raise you Leoric and Sven.

Hey now! Sven is 1 Passive, 2 Steroids, and a point and click AOE stun! That's way moar interesting, you get to press 3 buttons instead of 1 before you become a right-click melee-bot.


I mean I could be wrong but wasnt his skills
storm bolt,
defensive armor aura
cleave
super ultimate omega attack bonus steroid?
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
WreakHavoc
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
40 Posts
September 08 2011 22:10 GMT
#3354
Its
Stormbolt (AoE)
Warcry thingy (Movespeed buff + some other stuff)
Cleave
Damage Buff Ult
But I haven't played Dota for a while so that's just the Sven I remember playing D:
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 22:19:08
September 08 2011 22:16 GMT
#3355
On September 09 2011 07:10 WreakHavoc wrote:
Its
Stormbolt (AoE)
Warcry thingy (Movespeed buff + some other stuff)
Cleave
Damage Buff Ult
But I haven't played Dota for a while so that's just the Sven I remember playing D:



They must have changed it. This is the version I played:
http://dotabestguides.com/?p=31

his stormbolt was only 1 target too

Ironically, Leviathan is also another hero with two passives, a game changing ult, and a point/click slow that does a ton of damage
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
September 08 2011 22:28 GMT
#3356


Apparently riven's Q has some weird targeting mechanics. Reminds me of trying to figure out how double-up decided what it wanted to hit :

It's a no-click cast, like lay waste. It's closer to pounce, except that it also respects cursor position if you have it locked onto a nearby target.

That is, if you are actively targetting a champion, Riven will go towards your cursor if it is hovering near an enemy, but if your cursor is nowhere near anything resembling something that makes sense, she'll just Q forward instead.

The targetting mechanics are arcane and bizarre under the hood.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
September 08 2011 22:53 GMT
#3357
I like it, it seems like Riot is finally doing something new and original
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 08 2011 22:56 GMT
#3358
god, i hope riven ends up not being UP, she sounds cool.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 08 2011 22:57 GMT
#3359
I think most champs have really original designs. I especially like the recent ones, Orianna, Nocturne, etc
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
September 08 2011 22:58 GMT
#3360
Yes, but I feel like Talon and Skarner weren't that original... Except Skarners ulti.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
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