EPT[Patch 1.0.0.124: Talon] General Discussion - Page 161
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On September 08 2011 11:08 UniversalSnip wrote: more damage on his Q, his Q gave enemies a miss chance (so strong), his gatling did 25% of AD instead of 20... I think that's it and before that even his Q revealed wards and stealthed champs, was very stupid. Just go Q click in good ward spots and it's like a free oracles Gatling gun shredded more armor too. All of that is nothing compared to beta Corki(20% true damage passive, 50% blind, 40% gatling gun with higher armor shred, 1k range valkyrie). I didn't even play then and I know how fucking silly it was. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
He feels so versatile/flexible in laning and team comps that he seems a really solid pick in solo queue. I really don't understand why people switched from playing Corki really often to choosing other ADs, because he still feels really strong after all the nerfs. Just opinions from a LoL noob  | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On September 08 2011 08:58 tyCe wrote: I knew it!! Who the hell calls themselves CauthonLuck if not that same guy? It is the most random name ever and a very unusual namesteal choice at the same time. I remember hearing him quit SC2 for some MOBA game last year as well. the rumor came from someone actually asking him (i think it was neo, but not sure) if he was the cauthonluck from sc2, to which he responded 'what?' or something along those lines. not 100% sure on the details. | ||
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 08 2011 13:40 broz0rs wrote: yeah, I never understood the Corki exodus. His nerfs last patch were not that significant, even on a percentage basis. The lost of the blind was what really made Corki fell out of favor. Right now, Corki probably has the greatest raw dps out of all the range AD champs. The problem, however, is that the other range ADs simply offer more than Corki. Ashe has huge utility, Caitlyn is an amazing laner, Tristana has really good lategame with her insane range and is just as mobile as Corki not to mention her laning is pretty strong as well due to her burst, Urgot is a strong laner and is also pretty darn tanky. The #1 reason why Corki was favored pre-nerf was the fact that he could essentially take on any autoattacker 1v1, be it bruiser or range AD, if his opponent relies on autoattacks, Corki had a huge chance of winning due to his blind. When they removed that, he simply didn't offer anything other than raw damage that the other range ADs don't offer. The other range ADs simply have more utility. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On September 08 2011 15:14 Skithiryx wrote: Hey - is their a listing somewhere for where you're going to sit after season 1 ends ELO wise, i'm around 1465 at the moment and was wondering what it takes to get Silver. AFAIK There's only this: vast majority of players (97%) will have their Elo reset to between 1100 and 1300 rating, with top and bottom performers falling anywhere between 906 and 1490 rating. | ||
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JonsaBoy
Denmark457 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Greetings Summoners! With Riven on the horizon, I wanted to take a few minutes and give you all a sneak peek into some of her gameplay and mechanics. Riven is a flow-based fighter who performs aggressive combo attacks to decimate her opponents. This often involves her stepping forward into her sword swings to chase down cowardly enemies who might try to escape or utilize their ranged attacks to avoid direct combat. This highly mobile fighting style makes her a really aggressive, momentum-based character. Her signature ability is Broken Wings, a 3-part combo slash that causes her to step forward and slash nearby enemies. On her 3rd hit, Broken Wings unleashes a nova, knocking nearby enemies back. While performing the three-hit Broken Wings combo is powerful in its own right, more veteran Riven players will find great opportunities to mix in her Ki Shout to deliver a short stun (for her to follow up with more devastation) or move into an even better position with Valor. Her ultimate, Blade of the Exile, allows her to reform her broken sword, restoring her former power and allowing her to activate Wind Slash, a powerful shockwave that slices the air itself to cut down enemies that are out of reach. We're excited about Riven because she draws some heavy inspiration from fighting games, utilizing combos that can be interspersed with other abilities to change timing and effect as needed. This flow and feel is something we feel will appeal highly to aggressive players who want to make split-second decisions on when to deal damage and when to sacrifice damage in favor of additional utility effects. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On September 08 2011 15:36 Ryuu314 wrote: The lost of the blind was what really made Corki fell out of favor. Right now, Corki probably has the greatest raw dps out of all the range AD champs. The problem, however, is that the other range ADs simply offer more than Corki. Ashe has huge utility, Caitlyn is an amazing laner, Tristana has really good lategame with her insane range and is just as mobile as Corki not to mention her laning is pretty strong as well due to her burst, Urgot is a strong laner and is also pretty darn tanky. The #1 reason why Corki was favored pre-nerf was the fact that he could essentially take on any autoattacker 1v1, be it bruiser or range AD, if his opponent relies on autoattacks, Corki had a huge chance of winning due to his blind. When they removed that, he simply didn't offer anything other than raw damage that the other range ADs don't offer. The other range ADs simply have more utility. Yeah but Corki offers very consistent, sustained and not to mention strong AoE damage in teamfights. I mean, no other AD has the ability to utterly decimate an entire team's HP in a teamfight. He lacks the burst of APs like Annie of course and the range of ADs like Caitlyn, but his mobility and sustained AoE hybrid DPS is just so strong in teamfights. He can pretty safely lane before level 6 with W as an extra low cd flash and his passive makes it very easy to last hit. Once he reaches level 6, his laning improves significantly and even if he was being pressured, he can just R-Q to farm. I'm still a LoL noob but I really don't understand why he's been neglected as an AD for the last month or so. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On September 08 2011 16:14 JackDino wrote: Riven Mechanics posted. + Show Spoiler + Greetings Summoners! With Riven on the horizon, I wanted to take a few minutes and give you all a sneak peek into some of her gameplay and mechanics. Riven is a flow-based fighter who performs aggressive combo attacks to decimate her opponents. This often involves her stepping forward into her sword swings to chase down cowardly enemies who might try to escape or utilize their ranged attacks to avoid direct combat. This highly mobile fighting style makes her a really aggressive, momentum-based character. Her signature ability is Broken Wings, a 3-part combo slash that causes her to step forward and slash nearby enemies. On her 3rd hit, Broken Wings unleashes a nova, knocking nearby enemies back. While performing the three-hit Broken Wings combo is powerful in its own right, more veteran Riven players will find great opportunities to mix in her Ki Shout to deliver a short stun (for her to follow up with more devastation) or move into an even better position with Valor. Her ultimate, Blade of the Exile, allows her to reform her broken sword, restoring her former power and allowing her to activate Wind Slash, a powerful shockwave that slices the air itself to cut down enemies that are out of reach. We're excited about Riven because she draws some heavy inspiration from fighting games, utilizing combos that can be interspersed with other abilities to change timing and effect as needed. This flow and feel is something we feel will appeal highly to aggressive players who want to make split-second decisions on when to deal damage and when to sacrifice damage in favor of additional utility effects. Sounds badass. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 08 2011 17:07 tyCe wrote: Yeah but Corki offers very consistent, sustained and not to mention strong AoE damage in teamfights. I mean, no other AD has the ability to utterly decimate an entire team's HP in a teamfight. He lacks the burst of APs like Annie of course and the range of ADs like Caitlyn, but his mobility and sustained AoE hybrid DPS is just so strong in teamfights. He can pretty safely lane before level 6 with W as an extra low cd flash and his passive makes it very easy to last hit. Once he reaches level 6, his laning improves significantly and even if he was being pressured, he can just R-Q to farm. I'm still a LoL noob but I really don't understand why he's been neglected as an AD for the last month or so. Everything you listed about Corki another range AD can do just as well or better. If you want strong AoE, pick MF. If you want mobility, you take Tristana (longer range = less danger). If you want safe/strong laning, you pick Caitlyn. Yes, his farming is pretty darn safe and effective with R+Q, but that requires enormous amounts of mana, which means you either have to get a manamune (which is sub-optimal) or you're gonna want Soraka, who's better off as a solo laner/less support oriented anyways now. Even then, high level players have no problems farming with w/e champ they play. Besides, Cait's farming capability rivals that of Corki's due to her passive+Q. I mean, yes, Corki's sustained damage is still very likely the highest out of all the range ADs due to his passive and his ability to use Triforce like a boss. But the problem is that other range AD carries simply bring more to the table. Also, it's worth noting that Corki's "core" build is also much more expensive than that of other range ADs. Triforce+IE/BT+LW is more expensive than IE/BT+PD+LW by almost 2k gold. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On September 08 2011 17:07 tyCe wrote: Yeah but Corki offers very consistent, sustained and not to mention strong AoE damage in teamfights. I mean, no other AD has the ability to utterly decimate an entire team's HP in a teamfight. He lacks the burst of APs like Annie of course and the range of ADs like Caitlyn, but his mobility and sustained AoE hybrid DPS is just so strong in teamfights. He can pretty safely lane before level 6 with W as an extra low cd flash and his passive makes it very easy to last hit. Once he reaches level 6, his laning improves significantly and even if he was being pressured, he can just R-Q to farm. I'm still a LoL noob but I really don't understand why he's been neglected as an AD for the last month or so. I'm probably not much better than you but I used to play Corki a lot, he was my go to AD carry and I still think he's good. But, without his blind I can't justify playing him over Ashe/Caitlyn/Tristana. Ashe just brings so much more to a team and she was already better than Corki before his nerfs. I'm actually kinda annoyed that they nerfed Corki a lot harder than they nerfed Ashe. Caitlyn and Trist both have better range than Corki and they both have an escape (although Cait's isn't quite as good). Caitlyn has traps which are crazy helpful and her Q can help a lot in lane phase and mid game. Trist is just a better version of Corki now, imo. Without his blind he can't 1v1 every other AD carry in the game as well as he used to. Before the nerfs you could take Trist, Cait, or Ashe 1v1 easy. Not only did you have crazy damage but that blind was just way too good. Without the blind and with slightly less damage, idk. I just feel like I get more reliable results now out of Cait/Trist because of their range so I play them more than Corki. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
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Happy Frog
Australia490 Posts
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Bearded Elder29904 Posts
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Shiv.
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Bleh, I'm confused. TL;DR: need a random smurf on NA to read forums, please PM me. Edit: Thanks to gtrsrs and JonsaBoy for lending me their smurfes! You guys are great, thank you so much. If you ever need something, let me know. | ||
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