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Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 00:02:07
September 08 2011 00:00 GMT
#3161
On September 08 2011 08:55 HyperionDreamer wrote:
I tend to not like using mantra stacks at ALL unless I have to, or unless I want to really push the lane. I have this aversion to pushing real hard from level 1, since you're painting a big target on your back, and I think that's eventually what's going to happen if you're using RE really often.


Level 1 Karma is super strong in lane. You're gimping yourself by not going balls out and trading from the start, you have literally nothing to lose at that level, AND you'll hit level 2 first, allowing you to keep up the pressure even harder.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
September 08 2011 00:00 GMT
#3162
So after we nerfed corki we now need a spotlight to make people play him again!

Real.

"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 08 2011 00:01 GMT
#3163
On September 08 2011 08:55 HyperionDreamer wrote:
I tend to not like using mantra stacks at ALL unless I have to, or unless I want to really push the lane. I have this aversion to pushing real hard from level 1, since you're painting a big target on your back, and I think that's eventually what's going to happen if you're using RE really often.

Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 08:50 Juicyfruit wrote:
I feel that if you wait until after RoA to build your deathcap, the game would have dragged on long enough that the other team does enough damage to make RoA's health bonus fairly moot.

If you have to build a ton of survivability (RoA and hourglass), your teamcomp isn't really ideal for Karma. Your bruiser is basically so strong that as long as you can deal with THEIR frontline via having the likes of Janna or Alistar and a good damage dealer a la kogmaw or vayne, you are basically set.

Like I said, you don't necessarily have to wait until after RoA, you can get the catalyst for the increased HP and mana pools in lane and then get your NLR -> Deathcap. I have a crazy attachment to lane sustain no matter what way you slice it though, which is why I prefer the Catalyst.


Karma pushes the lane safely from like 600 range.
If you have 2 mantras, use RE on a creep near the enemy. No reason not to, unless you're sure you're gonna get ganked in the next 25 seconds.
You don't NEED catalyst. If you really need mana regen and you can't just get blue buff, run mp5 runes or get a tear/philo and spend 400 less gold.
Lane sustain for Karma is a 3 part thing
1) make enemy go b
2) push lane to enemy tower
3) go b
this is accomplished by pressing RE REQ QRE Q REQ B
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
September 08 2011 00:10 GMT
#3164
On September 08 2011 09:00 r.Evo wrote:
So after we nerfed corki we now need a spotlight to make people play him again!

Real.


Funniest champion spotlight so far. It's painfully obvious that they're not even trying in some of those clips.

I love the lengthy explanation of how that triforce proc was totally intentional.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 08 2011 00:49 GMT
#3165
Note to self: laning Akali against a Galio. Not fun.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 08 2011 00:55 GMT
#3166
Katarina against Morde isn't too hot either. Didn't feel like leveling Q.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 08 2011 00:58 GMT
#3167
On September 08 2011 09:49 Requizen wrote:
Note to self: laning Akali against a Galio. Not fun.



laning against galio with almost anything is not fun, he can either heal from your attacks if you are sustained dmg or make your brust deal only 1/4 dmg against his resistances. And if hes really low he tanks some minions to heal to full.

Really interesting lane ZzzZz
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
September 08 2011 00:58 GMT
#3168
On September 08 2011 09:01 Tooplark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 08:55 HyperionDreamer wrote:
I tend to not like using mantra stacks at ALL unless I have to, or unless I want to really push the lane. I have this aversion to pushing real hard from level 1, since you're painting a big target on your back, and I think that's eventually what's going to happen if you're using RE really often.

On September 08 2011 08:50 Juicyfruit wrote:
I feel that if you wait until after RoA to build your deathcap, the game would have dragged on long enough that the other team does enough damage to make RoA's health bonus fairly moot.

If you have to build a ton of survivability (RoA and hourglass), your teamcomp isn't really ideal for Karma. Your bruiser is basically so strong that as long as you can deal with THEIR frontline via having the likes of Janna or Alistar and a good damage dealer a la kogmaw or vayne, you are basically set.

Like I said, you don't necessarily have to wait until after RoA, you can get the catalyst for the increased HP and mana pools in lane and then get your NLR -> Deathcap. I have a crazy attachment to lane sustain no matter what way you slice it though, which is why I prefer the Catalyst.


Karma pushes the lane safely from like 600 range.
If you have 2 mantras, use RE on a creep near the enemy. No reason not to, unless you're sure you're gonna get ganked in the next 25 seconds.
You don't NEED catalyst. If you really need mana regen and you can't just get blue buff, run mp5 runes or get a tear/philo and spend 400 less gold.
Lane sustain for Karma is a 3 part thing
1) make enemy go b
2) push lane to enemy tower
3) go b
this is accomplished by pressing RE REQ QRE Q REQ B

Sure, I know that Karma pushes the lane like a boss. If that's the way that you want to play her, then more power to you. It's just really really sketchy with regards to getting ganked - you're painting a massive target on your back if you're pressuring the lane up to the opposing hero's tower. Also, you're making it sound like there's absolutely nothing that any opponent can do about your burst - there are plenty of laners that can and will put pressure back on you, and pressure you when they know your mantra stacks are down. Catalyst helps with that, as well as actual lane sustain in terms of HP and mana, instead of what you're described.

Lol, dat corki champ spotlight.
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clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 08 2011 01:25 GMT
#3169
lol after those deathcap rush suggestions (karma) I tried: 3 dorans lucidity dc. holy shit this is strong. Just one time I got initiated on with arrow+tf and then i figured that I just need a banshees as a follow up and be fine.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 08 2011 01:25 GMT
#3170
On September 08 2011 09:10 Lanzoma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 09:00 r.Evo wrote:
So after we nerfed corki we now need a spotlight to make people play him again!

Real.


Funniest champion spotlight so far. It's painfully obvious that they're not even trying in some of those clips.

I love the lengthy explanation of how that triforce proc was totally intentional.

You don't believe people can do that stuff on purpose?
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
September 08 2011 01:35 GMT
#3171
Servers fucked up for anyone else?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 08 2011 01:36 GMT
#3172
On September 08 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote:
Servers fucked up for anyone else?


yes, my game wouldn't start so I relogged and got a login Q. Luckily I'm one of the first apparently so it's only five minutes.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 08 2011 01:36 GMT
#3173
Funniest tribunal case ever...

GP with 50 kills, 9 deaths, built 3 iedges, 2 phantom dancers and one bloodthirster.

Other team all reported him:

"this guy is wayyyyy to op please fix this he got over 50 kills i think. "
Verbal Abuse
"50/9/6 I don't think so, he is so OP. He soloed two turrets with no minions. Please fix this Riot :3"
Offensive Language
"was calling us noobs the entire game and he is op and he can solo 2 turrets... please fix with riot"
Verbal Abuse
"Gangplank is op and can solo two turrets, fix this riot."
Verbal Abuse
Negative Attitude

Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 08 2011 01:46 GMT
#3174
what verdict did you give him hahaha
Hey! Listen!
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
September 08 2011 01:47 GMT
#3175
Pardon OFC
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 08 2011 01:48 GMT
#3176
Should have banned him for making three IEs.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 08 2011 01:53 GMT
#3177
apparently stacking ies, deathcaps, etc is a very popular 900 elo strat

saw a cap stacker in 1400s the other day lol
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
September 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#3178
On September 08 2011 10:25 ArC_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 09:10 Lanzoma wrote:
On September 08 2011 09:00 r.Evo wrote:
So after we nerfed corki we now need a spotlight to make people play him again!

Real.


Funniest champion spotlight so far. It's painfully obvious that they're not even trying in some of those clips.

I love the lengthy explanation of how that triforce proc was totally intentional.

You don't believe people can do that stuff on purpose?


You're reading between the lines too hard.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 08 2011 02:01 GMT
#3179
lol, i once didnt know what else to build on ap sion, so i stacked deathcaps because highest ap item :D
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
September 08 2011 02:02 GMT
#3180
Lol how did this happen?

And can anyone give me Corkis pre nerf stats? I never played him before the nerf.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
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