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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 02 2011 01:45 GMT
#2101
On September 02 2011 04:33 MoonBear wrote:

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 04:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
I graduated from a top 25 uni. Can only speak conversational spanish thou.

If you have strong math/technical/IT skills or have a good grasp on game design then being bilingual is not so much of an issue. By being good on game design I mean like, being able to coherently debate a point of view well. Imagine you had to argue a point with Zileas for example.

I can do that. I LOOOOOOOVVVEEEE to argue. AND sometimes I even make sense, provided I get a chance to think about the problem for a while. Hard to argue about lol if you just start spouting shit out of your ass (zalz proved this yesterday).
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 02 2011 01:45 GMT
#2102
On September 02 2011 10:37 Requizen wrote:
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On September 02 2011 10:35 mrgerry wrote:
Brand is one of the strongest heroes in lane phase at the moment. It's nice playing an AP hero that doesn't get counter picked in lane as well =)


Does he have the same problem as Cait, where they trail off and aren't as strong late game? Or is he strong in team fights too? I haven't really had a chance to play with/against too many to judge.


brand is very strong at all times
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
DaBears57
Profile Joined December 2009
United States300 Posts
September 02 2011 02:04 GMT
#2103
25 minute queue wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 02:09:02
September 02 2011 02:08 GMT
#2104
Something new I found out. Apparently sometimes ashe bot in co-op games rushes manamune. Who programmed that? lol
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2011 02:09 GMT
#2105
On September 02 2011 10:37 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 10:35 mrgerry wrote:
Brand is one of the strongest heroes in lane phase at the moment. It's nice playing an AP hero that doesn't get counter picked in lane as well =)


Does he have the same problem as Cait, where they trail off and aren't as strong late game? Or is he strong in team fights too? I haven't really had a chance to play with/against too many to judge.


first of all cait does not have that problem at all
with her range and jump she's a beast lategame as much as she is early game

and no brand does not have that problem either, in fact lategame his threat level is monumental, as if you eat a single W you can be looking at 1/3-1/2 of your health gone. playing against brand requires constant vigilance lategame
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 02 2011 02:14 GMT
#2106
On September 02 2011 11:09 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 10:37 Requizen wrote:
On September 02 2011 10:35 mrgerry wrote:
Brand is one of the strongest heroes in lane phase at the moment. It's nice playing an AP hero that doesn't get counter picked in lane as well =)


Does he have the same problem as Cait, where they trail off and aren't as strong late game? Or is he strong in team fights too? I haven't really had a chance to play with/against too many to judge.


first of all cait does not have that problem at all
with her range and jump she's a beast lategame as much as she is early game

and no brand does not have that problem either, in fact lategame his threat level is monumental, as if you eat a single W you can be looking at 1/3-1/2 of your health gone. playing against brand requires constant vigilance lategame


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phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 02:16:47
September 02 2011 02:15 GMT
#2107
On September 02 2011 10:44 Odds wrote:
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On September 02 2011 09:41 phyvo wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:44 Odds wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Watching Dan jungle Skarner just makes me happy I didn't waste IP on that terribad champion.

Hopefully Talon can jungle decently. I know he's fairly potent solo top. :3

Jingling Skarner = doing it wrong. Way, way wrong.


How do you do skarner right, then?

Because honestly outside of that one Grassy vid I've never seen a skarner amount to anything. Does crap DPS, no zone control/range/initiation, and doesn't have much utility. Your gap closer is breakable, if you're not within 150 range of your target none of your skills will hit, and if you're not auto attacking everything has a wicked longer cooldown.

In my eyes his weaknesses just pile up on each other and he doesn't have any strengths whatsoever. I've watched Dan Dihn and Shushei stream him but I'm simply not impressed by them or by any of the lower elo skarners I've ever met, including ones that got solo lane farm.

I'm narrowing down builds for him, suffice it to say EVERYONE is playing him wrong atm. I promise ill write a guide when I'm more confident in my findings.


You're getting my hopes up but I'm not holding my breath.

Yes my description is accurate.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#2108
On September 02 2011 11:14 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 11:09 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 02 2011 10:37 Requizen wrote:
On September 02 2011 10:35 mrgerry wrote:
Brand is one of the strongest heroes in lane phase at the moment. It's nice playing an AP hero that doesn't get counter picked in lane as well =)


Does he have the same problem as Cait, where they trail off and aren't as strong late game? Or is he strong in team fights too? I haven't really had a chance to play with/against too many to judge.


first of all cait does not have that problem at all
with her range and jump she's a beast lategame as much as she is early game

and no brand does not have that problem either, in fact lategame his threat level is monumental, as if you eat a single W you can be looking at 1/3-1/2 of your health gone. playing against brand requires constant vigilance lategame


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i'm so glad someone got the reference
if that had gone more than a page without being pointed out i was gonna pull my hair out
thank god it was only one post huehuehue gogo utaharrypotter
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#2109
On September 02 2011 10:45 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 04:33 MoonBear wrote:

On September 02 2011 04:23 Two_DoWn wrote:
I graduated from a top 25 uni. Can only speak conversational spanish thou.

If you have strong math/technical/IT skills or have a good grasp on game design then being bilingual is not so much of an issue. By being good on game design I mean like, being able to coherently debate a point of view well. Imagine you had to argue a point with Zileas for example.

I can do that. I LOOOOOOOVVVEEEE to argue. AND sometimes I even make sense, provided I get a chance to think about the problem for a while. Hard to argue about lol if you just start spouting shit out of your ass (zalz proved this yesterday).


As someone who took both an argumentative class and a game design class, let me weigh in.

By argue, it means that you need to be able to point out ideas that may or may not work and defend your own. However, you also need to be able to recognize bad ideas of your own and be willing to let them go. Even if you think that it's the greatest idea in the world, if people poke holes in a design, you need to be able to say "ok, we're not going to do this".

You also really need to work well with others. Unless you've shipped dozens of titles and are an acclaimed designer, you're NEVER going to have the last say on anything by yourself. You will always be part of a team.

You also, as the designer, need to be able to communicate with the programmers and artists in a manner that both can understand and agree on. Programmers and artists never see eye to eye (logic vs aesthetics, that sort of thing), so you need to realize the constraints of both teams and work with and around it.

There is no job where you can just sit around and pitch ideas. You're going to be working on something every step of the way, and you may be part of another team as well. People look up to you to make decisions and give answers, but also get ideas to solve problems.


Honestly, it's what I want to do as well. But I'm a programmer, so I'm going to be starting elsewhere. If you're serious about going into game design, there are some steps you should take:

1) I'd say watch Extra Creditz, which was a game development based webseries, but the episodes went kaput. They used to be on the Escapist, try to find em. They have a Youtube page now, but not all the vids are there.

2) Read about this stuff. Anything you can: books, blogs, magazines. It's not what a lot of people think. Like I said, there is no "idea guy" job. Yes, you'll come up with ideas for games, but you need to see them through, every step of the way. Characters, story, plot, combat system (if applicable), art style, level system, rewards, weapons (if applicable), skills, enemies, and much, much more. It's a long process, so get started.

3) Play games critically. Not just sit down and play for fun (do that too), but also look at them closely. What works? What doesn't work? What feels off? What mechanic did you like? Are the controls solid, or can you think of a more fluid way to do it? Think about it like you're actually looking for things to criticize.

4) Along the same line, don't just play games you like. Play EVERYTHING. Sports, shooters, RTS, MOBA, RPG, MMO, puzzle, action adventure, visual novels, anything. You can't just work on your favorite type of game most of the time, you need to make what you're going to make. Like I said, you don't get the only say, and sometimes you won't be on a team that makes what you want.

5) Finally, come up with a lot of ideas. Keep a notebook or USB with all of them. Every time you think you have an idea, write it down. Get a character or two. The main idea, mechanics, that "hook" that makes it interesting in your mind. And don't be afraid of criticism. You should show them off to people, and if they say they don't like it, don't get offended. Ask for opinions on everything.



... That was longer than I thought it'd be -_-;


/rant
It's your boy Guzma!
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
September 02 2011 02:29 GMT
#2110
Long but good, I totally agree, people take game design for granted but it's hard as shit. There's a reason why accomplished and successful game design people are paid big bucks by all sorts of companies.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2011 02:29 GMT
#2111
so i know i've mentioned this before
probably several times but

my two best ideas for LoL
that haven't been implemented yet (get on it MoonBear)

paying RP for a hard elo reset on your acct (riot would double their income from bads seriously, and without affecting the higher level play)
snowball boots

SERIOUSLY WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET THESE
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 02 2011 02:31 GMT
#2112
oh my god. I would LOVE snowball boots. Id get them every game. Even if they gave you negative movspeed til 6 stacks.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 02 2011 02:34 GMT
#2113
haha snowball boots, I love it
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 02 2011 02:34 GMT
#2114
snowball boots would complete the PANTHEON OF BRAVERY
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
50caliber
Profile Joined July 2011
United States32 Posts
September 02 2011 03:02 GMT
#2115
On September 02 2011 11:29 gtrsrs wrote:
paying RP for a hard elo reset on your acct (riot would double their income from bads seriously, and without affecting the higher level play


thats gonna inflate elo so badly its not even funny high elo is gonna be like 5000+
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
September 02 2011 03:04 GMT
#2116
On September 02 2011 11:29 gtrsrs wrote:
so i know i've mentioned this before
probably several times but

my two best ideas for LoL
that haven't been implemented yet (get on it MoonBear)

paying RP for a hard elo reset on your acct (riot would double their income from bads seriously, and without affecting the higher level play)
snowball boots

SERIOUSLY WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET THESE

God I hope they never do this.
twitch.tv/cratonz
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 02 2011 03:18 GMT
#2117
Oh my goodness snowball boots best idea ever.
Even if they'd never be used in a real capacity like Leviathan...since that item is still in the game I say why not?
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 04:41:38
September 02 2011 04:40 GMT
#2118
Just say no to snowball boots

EDIT: dude they should have snowball boots that get a stack when you run like a mile or something...lol
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 02 2011 04:44 GMT
#2119
what they really need to implement is guilds or clubs or teams or whatever the fuck you want to call it. how is that not in the game yet -_- team ladder would be much more interesting and get a lot more play time then simply "arranged 5s"
Brees on in
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 02 2011 04:46 GMT
#2120
Rp for elo reset, ew
Snowball boots, yes plz.
derp
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