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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 18 2011 19:10 GMT
#1501
Not even Turkey trolls as hard as Only Jaximus (or something like that) who went solo top Leona, died to Mord, and then ganked bot trololol.

I was semi-kinda-trolling but it genuinely pisses me off when people complain about matchmaking and never acknowledge that they're simply not better than their rating and try to shore up weaknesses. Which is amusing for Neo I know because I spent the better part of 2 years never dealing with my GOGOGO mentality but yeah.

And go away Smash stop seeing through my awkward "derp maybe I was being too mean" moments :[
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 18 2011 19:14 GMT
#1502
On August 19 2011 01:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:08 Haemonculus wrote:
Though sometimes I'm trying to shield Ashe and Cho's fat ass is in the way and I accidentally shield him instead T_T


Click on portaits! :3

On August 19 2011 01:42 spinesheath wrote:
I find it much harder to remember which F-key corresponds to which ally...

F1 is yourself. F2-5 is portraits in top right top to bottom. Spam them at start of game to get a feel for who's who.

Also, use the target champion only hotkey. None set by default, so you have to go to menu to set it.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 18 2011 19:17 GMT
#1503
My mind doesn't think fast enough so I click and miss anyways o/

and then just say

"I clicked on fatso sorry"

and most peoples' first thoughts isn't

"why didn't you use f-keys nub!"

but rather

"fuckin fatso"

so you can get away with it :3
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
August 18 2011 19:24 GMT
#1504
only jaximus is the same person as only nidalee, aka xfaultx

not trollin just bad
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 18 2011 19:26 GMT
#1505
LOL really? Jesus lawd I gave him more credit than those showings. Had to carry him once and then just guffawed when he was on the other team o/
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GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
August 18 2011 19:30 GMT
#1506
On August 19 2011 03:54 broz0rs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 03:50 0123456789 wrote:
I love double pd on carry build.
super funny. It does good dmg too.


it's even more hilarious on Tristana with Q. It looks as if she's doing pirouettes.



MF with IE, Mob boots, PD, Zeals, Zeals, Zeals, MS quints is my serious troll build, not so much for the AS but chasing down a Yi with his ult up is very fun.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 18 2011 19:31 GMT
#1507
Turkey runs BT into PDPDPDPDPDPDPDPD but I dun think he runs MS Quints cuz he's not troll enough :[ I think lifesteal on ranged AD is severely underrated, esp when you run a kite strat :/
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 18 2011 19:37 GMT
#1508
Hey, MS quints ain't that bad! At least, you can run them on pretty much every hero without failing totally your runes setup, useful when you lack IP.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 18 2011 19:39 GMT
#1509
I run them on AP carries, lets me open Sapphire and still juke skillshots. Definitely not bashing on them :3
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GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 19:47:32
August 18 2011 19:46 GMT
#1510
On August 19 2011 04:31 Southlight wrote:
Turkey runs BT into PDPDPDPDPDPDPDPD but I dun think he runs MS Quints cuz he's not troll enough :[ I think lifesteal on ranged AD is severely underrated, esp when you run a kite strat :/


Its serious troll because its actually kind of efficient but too focused to be good. The IE > zeals is almost efficient damage and lots of movement lets you do silly stuff and get good ults. I also like watching Secret agent MF strutting at super high speed.

My non troll is still ms quints, IE > merc's/maybe zerkers > 1 zeal > (Lifesteal specters/BT/Bveil/GA/etc...)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 18 2011 19:48 GMT
#1511
I know, it's his tryhard build too. IE vs BT will be an age-old debate, I prefer his BT build because it's so hard to kill MF when she's kiting properly with that MS O_O; You burst her but if she survives and positions properly she's back to full hp in like 4 seconds >_<
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 18 2011 20:14 GMT
#1512
Just played some more Skarner.

I still don't understand why people call him UP. I even managed to kill a Xin 1v1 when we were both reasonably farmed. The king of 1v1 gets raped late game by bling bling scorpion. Just flat out 1v1 slamming into each others faces.

Grabbing targets and dragging them into your team or dragging away that enemy carry and going skarner on their ass.


You farm like a beast and you rape towers with more fury then a scorpion that's been stuck in a shoe for a week. It should go without mention that you go at the speed of a fucking racecar whilst your targets are moving like snails on a treadmill.

People gotta try this dog out, but don't be going into no shit jungle. Not only does he jungle slow as fuck and his ganks suck balls without ulti, he has to spend way too much money on items he doesn't really need other then to jungle.


He's a solid top dawg champion, beats the shit out of a lot of classic tops. Maybe he works on other lanes but i doubt it. He can't compete on bot with all that ranged harass every time he goes for a nibble and mid is so fucking long range these days that skarner might never even get a taste of that enemy champion.

Ooh yeah, and everyone thinks he sucks balls so you are probably looking at a buff and everyone thinks you are the man for owning it up with skarner.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
August 18 2011 20:32 GMT
#1513
On August 19 2011 03:32 sRapers_ValkS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 23:29 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 18 2011 23:20 cascades wrote:
Does merc reduce aoe slow like kog's/singed?


Yes.

wait what, I'm pretty sure it doesn't because those don't have a "length", it just slows for however long you're standing on it.

They all have a duration that lasts for X seconds after you leave the area. Tenacity should reduce that amount. The debuff reapplies too frequently while you're still standing in said CC for it to matter.
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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
August 18 2011 20:35 GMT
#1514
On August 19 2011 04:10 Southlight wrote:
Not even Turkey trolls as hard as Only Jaximus (or something like that) who went solo top Leona, died to Mord, and then ganked bot trololol.

And usually when im trolling ill do something fun but not ineffective, rather than feed:p



On August 19 2011 04:48 Southlight wrote:
I know, it's his tryhard build too. IE vs BT will be an age-old debate, I prefer his BT build because it's so hard to kill MF when she's kiting properly with that MS O_O; You burst her but if she survives and positions properly she's back to full hp in like 4 seconds >_<

Yea I've done both builds and IE does have more damage..but lifesteal is just so powerful in solo queue because lack of coordination. Once farmed up I've even tanked multiple people beating on me and just healed back to full as I kill them
You can't milk those!
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 20:36:11
August 18 2011 20:35 GMT
#1515
On August 19 2011 05:14 zalz wrote:
Just played some more Skarner.

I still don't understand why people call him UP. I even managed to kill a Xin 1v1 when we were both reasonably farmed. The king of 1v1 gets raped late game by bling bling scorpion. Just flat out 1v1 slamming into each others faces.

Grabbing targets and dragging them into your team or dragging away that enemy carry and going skarner on their ass.


You farm like a beast and you rape towers with more fury then a scorpion that's been stuck in a shoe for a week. It should go without mention that you go at the speed of a fucking racecar whilst your targets are moving like snails on a treadmill.

People gotta try this dog out, but don't be going into no shit jungle. Not only does he jungle slow as fuck and his ganks suck balls without ulti, he has to spend way too much money on items he doesn't really need other then to jungle.


He's a solid top dawg champion, beats the shit out of a lot of classic tops. Maybe he works on other lanes but i doubt it. He can't compete on bot with all that ranged harass every time he goes for a nibble and mid is so fucking long range these days that skarner might never even get a taste of that enemy champion.

Ooh yeah, and everyone thinks he sucks balls so you are probably looking at a buff and everyone thinks you are the man for owning it up with skarner.


His scaling is awful and his base abilities aren't anything special either. The typical top dawgs as you call them should poop on him because his sustain with e->hit isn't nearly as good as say, Turtle stance. Also he's only fast if the shield is up, and it takes 1 spell from a caster or 2 hits from any carry to break it if you maxed it, which means either your Q or E are awful.

He's not 'UP' but he's not some awesome champ that will totally change matchups top lane. He's just a middle tier champ, which should be perfectly fine if there weren't so many bruisers significantly better.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 20:48:39
August 18 2011 20:39 GMT
#1516
On August 19 2011 04:14 MoonBear wrote:
Also, use the target champion only hotkey. None set by default, so you have to go to menu to set it.

Actually this doesn't seem to be true. It's listed in the key bindings, but rebinding the key doesn't actually do anything. ` is the target champs only hotkey and you cannot change it.

Please forward to Riot because I would actually use this feature if I could put it elsewhere.

(I'm assuming the "player attack only click" or whatever it's called is this feature, since it was automatically bound to ` when I checked the key bindings before. Rebinding it does not seem to actually change anything.)
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zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
August 18 2011 20:43 GMT
#1517
On August 19 2011 05:35 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 05:14 zalz wrote:
Just played some more Skarner.

I still don't understand why people call him UP. I even managed to kill a Xin 1v1 when we were both reasonably farmed. The king of 1v1 gets raped late game by bling bling scorpion. Just flat out 1v1 slamming into each others faces.

Grabbing targets and dragging them into your team or dragging away that enemy carry and going skarner on their ass.


You farm like a beast and you rape towers with more fury then a scorpion that's been stuck in a shoe for a week. It should go without mention that you go at the speed of a fucking racecar whilst your targets are moving like snails on a treadmill.

People gotta try this dog out, but don't be going into no shit jungle. Not only does he jungle slow as fuck and his ganks suck balls without ulti, he has to spend way too much money on items he doesn't really need other then to jungle.


He's a solid top dawg champion, beats the shit out of a lot of classic tops. Maybe he works on other lanes but i doubt it. He can't compete on bot with all that ranged harass every time he goes for a nibble and mid is so fucking long range these days that skarner might never even get a taste of that enemy champion.

Ooh yeah, and everyone thinks he sucks balls so you are probably looking at a buff and everyone thinks you are the man for owning it up with skarner.


His scaling is awful and his base abilities aren't anything special either. The typical top dawgs as you call them should poop on him because his sustain with e->hit isn't nearly as good as say, Turtle stance. Also he's only fast if the shield is up, and it takes 1 spell from a caster or 2 hits from any carry to break it if you maxed it, which means either your Q or E are awful.

He's not 'UP' but he's not some awesome champ that will totally change matchups top lane. He's just a middle tier champ, which should be perfectly fine if there weren't so many bruisers significantly better.


Scale is awefull? He has some of the highest stat growths in the game. The base on his damage covers him long enough to keep him more then viable until the sheen/triforce rolls around, at wich point his enormous base atack damage starts to pile up and you dish out the damage.

You gotta play him, stop thinking you know him and play him for yourself and play him proper. People in LoL take too much for granted. Same reason Eve went from que dodge to game changer with minor changes.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 18 2011 20:48 GMT
#1518
lol, my problem with Skarner atm is simply the same issue I'm weary about Talon and Wukong, it's really hard to slot him into a team where he doesn't get buttfucked somewhere. Like I feel like he's such a weak solo top champ, weak solo mid champ, and his jungle is terrislow. Otherwise he's a pretty decent hero :[
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 18 2011 20:50 GMT
#1519
I've played with 2 Skarners recently. They both did a full clear in under 4:00. Doesn't seem that bad too me @_@.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
August 18 2011 20:51 GMT
#1520
On August 19 2011 05:43 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 05:35 red_ wrote:
On August 19 2011 05:14 zalz wrote:
Just played some more Skarner.

I still don't understand why people call him UP. I even managed to kill a Xin 1v1 when we were both reasonably farmed. The king of 1v1 gets raped late game by bling bling scorpion. Just flat out 1v1 slamming into each others faces.

Grabbing targets and dragging them into your team or dragging away that enemy carry and going skarner on their ass.


You farm like a beast and you rape towers with more fury then a scorpion that's been stuck in a shoe for a week. It should go without mention that you go at the speed of a fucking racecar whilst your targets are moving like snails on a treadmill.

People gotta try this dog out, but don't be going into no shit jungle. Not only does he jungle slow as fuck and his ganks suck balls without ulti, he has to spend way too much money on items he doesn't really need other then to jungle.


He's a solid top dawg champion, beats the shit out of a lot of classic tops. Maybe he works on other lanes but i doubt it. He can't compete on bot with all that ranged harass every time he goes for a nibble and mid is so fucking long range these days that skarner might never even get a taste of that enemy champion.

Ooh yeah, and everyone thinks he sucks balls so you are probably looking at a buff and everyone thinks you are the man for owning it up with skarner.


His scaling is awful and his base abilities aren't anything special either. The typical top dawgs as you call them should poop on him because his sustain with e->hit isn't nearly as good as say, Turtle stance. Also he's only fast if the shield is up, and it takes 1 spell from a caster or 2 hits from any carry to break it if you maxed it, which means either your Q or E are awful.

He's not 'UP' but he's not some awesome champ that will totally change matchups top lane. He's just a middle tier champ, which should be perfectly fine if there weren't so many bruisers significantly better.


Scale is awefull? He has some of the highest stat growths in the game. The base on his damage covers him long enough to keep him more then viable until the sheen/triforce rolls around, at wich point his enormous base atack damage starts to pile up and you dish out the damage.

You gotta play him, stop thinking you know him and play him for yourself and play him proper. People in LoL take too much for granted. Same reason Eve went from que dodge to game changer with minor changes.

I think he meant ratios on his skills, they seem quite low but actually i think skarner's biggest strength is his lategame (just like with wukong)
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