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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 22 2011 18:37 GMT
#1981
'cause you can poke most champs down without them being able to do anything. They can't run at you without eating your ball and you can keep yours placed aggressively by the creep line.

Against champs like Kass, you can keep use your shield to absorb their burst until later laning phase and win the exchange.

Champs with really long range abilities like Brand and Malz's Q (to lesser extent) can go at least even vs her.
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LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 22 2011 18:47 GMT
#1982
AP Nasus is so fun, LOL. At end game I had 600 AP, my E would do 450 damage initial damage and my ult was doing 11% of someone's life every second. My Q in spirit fire (for armor reduction) was hitting for 1000 damage with lichbane, hahahaha.
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 19:01:57
August 22 2011 19:01 GMT
#1983
Ha ha, how do you not die in the first 5 seconds?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 22 2011 19:02 GMT
#1984
On August 23 2011 03:47 LoCicero wrote:
AP Nasus is so fun, LOL. At end game I had 600 AP, my E would do 450 damage initial damage and my ult was doing 11% of someone's life every second. My Q in spirit fire (for armor reduction) was hitting for 1000 damage with lichbane, hahahaha.


Can't wrap my head around building Nasus AP but I assume he ends up like Mord to a degree.

Do you build Spell Vamp?
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
August 22 2011 19:03 GMT
#1985
On August 23 2011 03:47 LoCicero wrote:
AP Nasus is so fun, LOL. At end game I had 600 AP, my E would do 450 damage initial damage and my ult was doing 11% of someone's life every second. My Q in spirit fire (for armor reduction) was hitting for 1000 damage with lichbane, hahahaha.

LOL!

Obviously Loci was too OP with nasus before the buff so after the buff he has play him AP :x
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 22 2011 19:06 GMT
#1986
On August 23 2011 04:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 03:47 LoCicero wrote:
AP Nasus is so fun, LOL. At end game I had 600 AP, my E would do 450 damage initial damage and my ult was doing 11% of someone's life every second. My Q in spirit fire (for armor reduction) was hitting for 1000 damage with lichbane, hahahaha.


Can't wrap my head around building Nasus AP but I assume he ends up like Mord to a degree.

Do you build Spell Vamp?


You must have never played with Turkey.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#1987
On August 23 2011 03:47 LoCicero wrote:
AP Nasus is so fun, LOL. At end game I had 600 AP, my E would do 450 damage initial damage and my ult was doing 11% of someone's life every second. My Q in spirit fire (for armor reduction) was hitting for 1000 damage with lichbane, hahahaha.

Kog with 600 AP: R hits for 580 damage every second, W hits for 12% HP, more than once a second. 680 damage each from Q and E.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#1988
On August 23 2011 04:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 03:47 LoCicero wrote:
AP Nasus is so fun, LOL. At end game I had 600 AP, my E would do 450 damage initial damage and my ult was doing 11% of someone's life every second. My Q in spirit fire (for armor reduction) was hitting for 1000 damage with lichbane, hahahaha.


Can't wrap my head around building Nasus AP but I assume he ends up like Mord to a degree.

Do you build Spell Vamp?


Dyrus just played Gunblade/Sheen hybrid Nasus?
Spirit fire hits like a truck now apparently....although I miss the delay in the cast, and that twirling his staff over his head animation.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 22 2011 19:10 GMT
#1989
On August 23 2011 02:16 Kaneh wrote:
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On August 23 2011 00:24 Two_DoWn wrote:
On August 23 2011 00:15 tyCe wrote:
On August 23 2011 00:12 Requizen wrote:
Interesting. I suppose I need to just work on my skillshots. Last night I just got frustrated with her because my lane buddy went afk half the match and I was solo v Cho'Gath and Miss Fortune. It was... terrrrrible.

But yeah, she's fun. I feel like she lacks the "pew pew you're dead" that other carries can pull off, but the control is really nice, especially for assists.

Yeah, that's what I find as well. Lux is really fun to play and offers really good utility in 1v1, skirmishes and big teamfights due to the AoE/multiple-target of all of her skills, but she definitely lacks the insane burst of carries like Annie.

Thats actually false. Her upfront burst is equal to most casters.

Her ult is .75 ratio with 500 max base, 7 on q (260 base), and 6 on e (240 base).

Annie on the other hand, is 245 base .7 ratio on q, 280 .75 on w, and 450 .7 on tibbers.

So she loses .1 ap ratio and has slightly higher base damages than annie.

Her cooldowns are longer than annies, but her cc is at least equal, and her spell distances are MUCH better than annies. Lux can sit back and pewpew while annie is stuck having to go ahead and march forward to her death. Combined with the fact that you are likely to get a second ult off in a longer teamfight, Lux actually compares really well.


annie has one of the lowest "pure" bursts - tibbers burn+auto is a huge component of annie's damage. the fact that tibber's aura scales with AP also makes her scale much better than advertised.

lux's "extra" burst comes from auto attack procs, so she definately isn't as strong as you make her out to be. her ap ratios are balls low, and the cooldowns on her regular spells are pretty bad as well. Her biggest advantage is her range, which allows her to build nothing but squish even if you don't have a reliable team.

What.

Lux is probably my favorite AP champion right now. Everyone thinks you're just a squishy support bitch, but if you build AP you can instagib anyone. Deathcap/void/morellos on lux = killing machine.

The ratio on Q, E, and R are ridiculous, (like .7 or .8 on all of them). Her W ratio is garbage but you don't bother with that spell until you need to anyway.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 22 2011 19:18 GMT
#1990
On August 22 2011 20:45 Abenson wrote:
Guys, I have enought RP to buy bloodstone taric, but I'm hoping that he'll go on sale sometime later.
Is it just wishful thinkin? Or should I wait

Skins go on sale approximately 3-5 months after release. Exceptions apply, but on the whole that rule is pretty consistent.

On August 22 2011 21:05 Niton wrote:
Also, I just realized: There are two champions in the game with natural AP scaling on autoattacks, and both are OP as fuck.

Every 4800 Champion has been pretty powerful without the need for additional buffs. Trundle, Jarman, Rumble, etc.

On August 23 2011 02:41 BlackPaladin wrote:
Did somebody just say Lux has low AP ratios????? Are they playing the same game as me?

edit: lol I forgot TL goes by Korean time. I'm 21 in korea, woooooo!

Happy Birthday!

On August 23 2011 03:47 LoCicero wrote:
AP Nasus is so fun, LOL. At end game I had 600 AP, my E would do 450 damage initial damage and my ult was doing 11% of someone's life every second. My Q in spirit fire (for armor reduction) was hitting for 1000 damage with lichbane, hahahaha.

AP Nasus sounds a little odd, but I can understand why it might work since with Q you'd be doing lots of hybrid damage. His ult damage caps off at 240/sec which is 6.86% of 3500hp and 10% of 2400hp.

What's your build may I ask? I want to try this. ^^
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 22 2011 19:19 GMT
#1991
I think Lux's W is absurdly strong if you can actually get the full value out of it ._.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 22 2011 19:20 GMT
#1992
I'm testing out random stuff, I think I want to try RoA - Mercs - DFG - Hextech - Lichbane - (GA/Rylai's/Deathcap).
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
August 22 2011 19:22 GMT
#1993
Yo LoCicero, that Nasus was amazing. Sure kicked my ass.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 22 2011 19:26 GMT
#1994
On August 23 2011 04:19 Juicyfruit wrote:
I think Lux's W is absurdly strong if you can actually get the full value out of it ._.

It can pull a clutch save and such but with a .3 AP ratio and the fact that it only gains 20 base shield per level, you're better off more or less ignoring leveling it imo.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
August 22 2011 19:34 GMT
#1995
On August 23 2011 03:30 Two_DoWn wrote:
Not that my vote counts for much, but I have yet to figure out how to dominate a lane as Ori. Her ball makes her damage unreliable, and while the shield is nice to block damage, her other abilities seem to be best suited for farming or semi zoning. Her ult at level 6 is nice, but before then she seems kinda meh to me.



she is good against enemies that naturally stay far back or fear you because you can abuse your range and leave the ball in front of you.
But against charging enemies like kat, irelia etc that are played properly, she isnt that dominant in lane.

But even those cant stop her farm, so she will kill everything later regardless, its just more annoying to lane vs a good kat for example.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 22 2011 19:37 GMT
#1996
On August 23 2011 04:26 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:19 Juicyfruit wrote:
I think Lux's W is absurdly strong if you can actually get the full value out of it ._.

It can pull a clutch save and such but with a .3 AP ratio and the fact that it only gains 20 base shield per level, you're better off more or less ignoring leveling it imo.


By full value I mean getting the shield bounce twice on a few target, which generally means using it on your team while they're in the middle of being nuked by an AoE-fest.

At least I THINK that's how lux's shield works.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 22 2011 19:37 GMT
#1997
wtf, people were talking about support teams 4 pages ago and they're all noobynoobs. Nidalee and Karma solos (Janna and Morg suck ass), Taric and Sona bot idealy, and then use a real jungler like WW or Jarman, then rush an Aegis, WotA, and Soul Shroud and voila, OP 15 minute push to nexus, every... single... game. shit's OP.
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
August 22 2011 19:39 GMT
#1998
On August 23 2011 04:37 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:26 Haemonculus wrote:
On August 23 2011 04:19 Juicyfruit wrote:
I think Lux's W is absurdly strong if you can actually get the full value out of it ._.

It can pull a clutch save and such but with a .3 AP ratio and the fact that it only gains 20 base shield per level, you're better off more or less ignoring leveling it imo.


By full value I mean getting the shield bounce twice on a few target, which generally means using it on your team while they're in the middle of being nuked by an AoE-fest.

At least I THINK that's how lux's shield works.

In a perfect situation with 200 AP you can potentially shield up to about 2300 damage (10 x 230), which is pretty much a zero-AP level 3 Soraka ultimate. The problem is realistically you don't tend to get situations where you can do that so W is at best unreliable.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 19:51:53
August 22 2011 19:42 GMT
#1999


On August 23 2011 04:39 crate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 04:37 Juicyfruit wrote:
On August 23 2011 04:26 Haemonculus wrote:
On August 23 2011 04:19 Juicyfruit wrote:
I think Lux's W is absurdly strong if you can actually get the full value out of it ._.

It can pull a clutch save and such but with a .3 AP ratio and the fact that it only gains 20 base shield per level, you're better off more or less ignoring leveling it imo.


By full value I mean getting the shield bounce twice on a few target, which generally means using it on your team while they're in the middle of being nuked by an AoE-fest.

At least I THINK that's how lux's shield works.

In a perfect situation with 200 AP you can potentially shield up to about 2300 damage (10 x 230), which is pretty much a zero-AP level 3 Soraka ultimate. The problem is realistically you don't tend to get situations where you can do that so W is at best unreliable.


Yeah but it's like a bonus on top of all that other crap she does >.>

My point of view is that Lux has the "potential" damage mitigation of a soraka ult as a skill that is generally considered her worst skill and worthless.

Due to lux's high cooldown on all her spells, all of her spells have to be placed perfectly. That means to get good mileage of out Lux your snare HAS to hit 2 targets. Your E NEEDS to slow for as long as possible before popping it for damage. Your R has to be tossed out early in the fight, as soon as the veils have been popped so that you can get a second one in for cleanup afterwards. And of course during this whole time you need to present yourself as a POTENTIAL target so that you can actually exert presence over a teamfight if only to make yourself a dummy target (the enemy team need to be able to see you as a potential target, even if you have absolutely no intention of getting hit). Otherwise you are costing your team precious "bulk".
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
August 22 2011 19:48 GMT
#2000
On August 23 2011 03:17 Mogwai wrote:
Karma's level 6 is stronger than Orianna and Annie's. Honestly, I don't understand the Orianna boners people have in lane. I played her in lane this one time and she just felt like a shittier version of Karma (I'm not even kidding at all). LeBlanc has the stupidest level 6 though IMHO.

anyway, yes, I rage at tibbers, but it's just because he lasts like, fucking 45 seconds and you can't kill him without taking twelve hundred thousand damage at level 6 when Annie has negative 50 AP (let's not even talk about trying to kill that fucker when Annie is level 16 and has positive AP...).

I don't really see Karma's level 6 as a huge burst in damage or anything though. Your e and q will be both at level 3, but her mantra gather time isn't reduced until level 7... The reason people love/hate orianna is because she can win basically any lane. Against heroes that you need to keep a distance from (malz, brand, etc) you can just harass them with Q+W and use your huge effective range to cs, and against heroes like irelia and kat and stuff that was already mentioned, you can just farm from long range, push the lane to the tower so they miss out on cs, and use EW to protect yourself....

Plus her late game is ridiculously strong, QRW wins entire teamfights if you get a good one.
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