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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 07 2011 21:27 GMT
#1461
Link to taric skin? Is it outrageous? Also stoked to start getting better at Leona. Mb she can jungle now? No pirate change is a little disappointing, but I'm real excited for new panth reign of terror
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 07 2011 21:28 GMT
#1462
Taric skin's in the Leona part of the preview.

From the minds that brought you:

- Blue Taric (default y0)
- Green Taric
and
- Pink Taric with legwarmers

comes..

RED TARIC.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 07 2011 21:32 GMT
#1463
I believe they went with the Dreadknight/Bloodknight Taric. His armour is pretty detailed.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 07 2011 21:34 GMT
#1464
On August 08 2011 05:10 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 03:45 clickrush wrote:
On August 08 2011 00:26 Craton wrote:
There are cheese lanes like that used, usually seen as some form of blitz/alistar or brandt/taric. The problem is they're gimmick lanes -- if you don't gib something, you're going to lose the lane.


how is it gimmick? I dont see why you have to kill sth at all with that lane. If the babysitter lane knows what their doing then they will sit back and play passive while trying to poke. But a dualstun/burst combo bottom can also deny them and just punish em when they try sth silly.

I dont think its gimmick/cheese when it worked for years in dota. Its just way more coordination depenand than babysitting+ farming.

Basicly almost every taric+ something lane is a bit like this and often it doesnt kill but just deny (which is way more effective in the long run if you do it right).

'cause the AD lane is going to have way better poke and put you in the hp danger zone in an exchange where they don't die and they can simply sustain back up + abuse having superior range.

If you don't kill them, you get zoned. In the case of Brand/Taric you don't necessarily get zoned or outfarmed, but your AP is lower level than the enemy AP and since AP need levels more than AD (typically), you're behind in that regard.

Yeah... no. Brand has great poke with his long range spells. Poking Taric with autoattacks means that he is going to stun you -> Brand combo -> dead.
AD + Support lanes try to win against burst lanes by surviving/dodging the burst and then retaliating while the enemy retreats.

This whole "AP needs levels more than AD" is nonsense. If you send an AD to a duo lane, he will have less damage output/influence in fights than a solo lane AD because he is squishier and this has to play much safer (and also has weaker skills, duh). If you send an AP bottom, his damage output will be lower than the solo lane counterpart, too. Whether the weaker AD or the weaker AP will hurt your team more is very game specific.

However, if you can zone the enemy AD @ bottom out of lasthitting range for a while, then that is usually WELL worth a slightly underfarmed AP because the AP can rely on his base damages more than the AD.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 07 2011 21:36 GMT
#1465
On August 08 2011 06:09 emucxg wrote:
is own3d.tv down atm?


Unfortunately, yeah it is. Was hoping to watch some go4lol today. zzz
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4690 Posts
August 07 2011 21:37 GMT
#1466
That Taric skin looks so... fugly in game

Interested to see what they do to Nasus. I don't like him as a jungler until they re-work his Q. I think he just relies on + damage to Q too much to want to take out of a lane.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
August 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#1467
Shrug the problem with Nasus is not that he can't deal damage, it's that he's infinitely kiteable (moreso than any hero in the game I think). Even Udyr at least has bear form for a spammable mini-ghost.
hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4690 Posts
August 07 2011 22:14 GMT
#1468
On August 08 2011 06:56 arnath wrote:
Shrug the problem with Nasus is not that he can't deal damage, it's that he's infinitely kiteable (moreso than any hero in the game I think). Even Udyr at least has bear form for a spammable mini-ghost.


Well yeah, he get's kited to hell and back, I'm just saying I'd prefer a lane over jungle since the difference in Q damage (at least from what I think, I could be totally wrong and it's actually close) would be noticeable.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 07 2011 22:30 GMT
#1469
o_o wtf can't play LoL at UCLA summer camp. qq
derp
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
August 07 2011 23:40 GMT
#1470
On August 07 2011 23:19 locodoco wrote:
mordekesier is op as fuck

9/21/0

magic pen/armor/mr per level/ms

ignite flash

R>E/W>Q
level E if ur dominating lane
level W if hard lane
1 point in Q(its a level 1 wonder)

boot + 3 pots -> revolver -> cutlass -> gunblade

deathcap -> lich bane
for more damage

ga
for more tankage

ward their wraith and the other riverside when soloing mid
push ur lane steal their wraiths~
ult->gunblade->ignite->e->q rotation on carry in teamfights
microing ur ghost important!

yea dyrus + vman7 have been doing this exact build for forever and nobody seems to notice how op it is. it's just absurd at low ELO, you just farm all day then 1v5, instant win
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 00:34:27
August 08 2011 00:33 GMT
#1471
......
no lee sin nerfs

They want to make Garen more viable in teamfights? Wut? With his ridic Damage?

They want to make Pantheon OP? Wut? No cd reduction and 4 sec hss wut?

Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
August 08 2011 00:49 GMT
#1472
riot es #1 balancers
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 08 2011 00:51 GMT
#1473
On August 08 2011 09:33 0123456789 wrote:
......
no lee sin nerfs

They want to make Garen more viable in teamfights? Wut? With his ridic Damage?

They want to make Pantheon OP? Wut? No cd reduction and 4 sec hss wut?


holyshit that HSS buff LOL, if they buff his channeling as well he's going to be able to W E Q every time his stun is up... so insane.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 00:55:24
August 08 2011 00:55 GMT
#1474
Yeah I feel like they're going to buff Garen right back to where he was before.

EDIT: My god I'm finally not an SCV anymore.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 08 2011 01:16 GMT
#1475
Why would LS need nerfs? He seems to be in a good place right now. Actually takes skill to play.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 01:57:50
August 08 2011 01:21 GMT
#1476
So my previous max viewers is like 12, and now that own3d.tv is down my justin.tv stream is like the only one that works / only one listed on clgaming.net stream tracker and now I had over 60 people watching o.O

EDIT: 80+ viewers wut

EDIT: 126

152
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-08 01:36:31
August 08 2011 01:36 GMT
#1477
On August 08 2011 10:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Why would LS need nerfs? He seems to be in a good place right now. Actually takes skill to play.

Because a good LS can basically rape a carry without putting himself in any danger. He's incredibly tanky + unparalleled mobility.

I'd say its a design issue, but nerfing numbers could probably make it mostly balanced. It's dumb to have someone able to lunge to an enemy and then immediately lunge to safety.
twitch.tv/cratonz
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
August 08 2011 01:36 GMT
#1478
On August 08 2011 10:21 Shikyo wrote:
So my previous max viewers is like 12, and now that own3d.tv is down my justin.tv stream is like the only one that works / only one listed on clgaming.net stream tracker and now I had over 60 people watching o.O

EDIT: 80+ viewers wut

Run CMs dude !
I can't acces to Owned.tv since more than 7 hours, I seemed the only one at that time, but all is down now.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 08 2011 01:45 GMT
#1479
On August 08 2011 10:36 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 10:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Why would LS need nerfs? He seems to be in a good place right now. Actually takes skill to play.

Because a good LS can basically rape a carry without putting himself in any danger. He's incredibly tanky + unparalleled mobility.

I'd say its a design issue, but nerfing numbers could probably make it mostly balanced. It's dumb to have someone able to lunge to an enemy and then immediately lunge to safety.


He's pretty squishy on base stats but I guess most LS do build him tanky. Atmog is too gud on him. I guess I could see his Q numbers reduced a bit. But I still think good LS are art to watch.

How is that a design flaw? How is his lunging in/retreating any different than a champion using a projectile instead? If anything, LS lunging in is more risky than a project if he somehow gets caught in a CC before he can W out.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 08 2011 01:54 GMT
#1480
On August 08 2011 10:21 Shikyo wrote:
So my previous max viewers is like 12, and now that own3d.tv is down my justin.tv stream is like the only one that works / only one listed on clgaming.net stream tracker and now I had over 60 people watching o.O

EDIT: 80+ viewers wut

EDIT: 126

For some reason right now you're the only stream listed on CLG, hehe
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
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