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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
My thoughts: Everytime he goes to gank he loses farm and xp. It's the laners job to ward and not loldie to him all day. Team thoughts: Our mid sucks sion gank all the time he never lol report omgnewb. For real, it can't be true that i have to run behind him everytime he tries to gank. | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On August 08 2011 00:41 r.Evo wrote: How to counter mobil boots sion mid? My thoughts: Everytime he goes to gank he loses farm and xp. It's the laners job to ward and not loldie to him all day. Team thoughts: Our mid sucks sion gank all the time he never lol report omgnewb. For real, it can't be true that i have to run behind him everytime he tries to gank. Why not? Those are usually the best time to get kills. Nothing feels as good as ganking a gank. Unless the enem team spots you before they gank so they know what you are up to and gank you as you try to gank their gank. That said if you are too lazy to walk after him just push like crazy. If he's leaving the lane you should be up on his tower tearing it down. It's important to know that there are times when the game calls for you to push minion waves, not just last hit and those occur even during the lane phase. Strong push champions can even make it nearly impossible to gank from mid since every time you leave he is at your tower. Think Nidalee, Singed. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Sometimes it's incredibly risky to "follow" him, because he might just as well ambush you together with their jungler half way to the other lane. I would only follow the enemy if you have plenty of vision on him. Otherwise call the mia and tell your allies to be careful. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
On August 07 2011 17:55 StuffedTurkey wrote: That sounds outrageous.....truly truly truly outrageous please tell me i'm not the only one that gets this. | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
On August 08 2011 01:31 broz0rs wrote: please tell me i'm not the only one that gets this. I'm pretty sure everyone gets it. ^_^ | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Said dash makes it almost impossible to punish farming with Nevermore, I can't really flee his combo because of the stun and he pushes lanes like crazy, under my tower and damaging it a lot every time I get killed or have to back. Any pointers about how to fight him or is it a losing match-up from the start (my main AP is Morgana, who suffer from the same weakness aka a skillshot)? | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Position yourself to avoid shurikens and last hit, and if he comes to autoattack you, E-Q unload on him. Try to not waste spells on him while he's in pikachu mode because he gets MR bonus that way. The hardest part about fighting kennen is when he comes at you with a W-charged proc. If you run from your creeps to avoid it you'll get chased down by his lightning ball and shuriken and you'll STILL eat the autoattack, so stand your ground and cast nevermore when you think he will stop and auto + W you. If he comes at you with lightning ball, use nevermore to stop or deter him. It`s really your best move in this case until you get a little more farmed. Doesn`t really matter if you miss as long as it keeps him away. He can`t really fight you after his E is on cooldown, so you can take the fight to him during that time. As for his level 6 burst, you need enough HP or MR to survive the whole thing + Ignite otherwise there`s really no point in even talking about beating him. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On August 08 2011 00:41 r.Evo wrote: How to counter mobil boots sion mid? My thoughts: Everytime he goes to gank he loses farm and xp. It's the laners job to ward and not loldie to him all day. Team thoughts: Our mid sucks sion gank all the time he never lol report omgnewb. For real, it can't be true that i have to run behind him everytime he tries to gank. Mid leaves > push the shit out of mid lane See mid on a sidelane ward > go help sidelane Since mid is usually a big ap nuker, you can play cleanup pretty easily. | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
vs Sion, assuming you don't want to counterpick him your team just has to ward the river while you push his tower. He relies on snowballing from ganks to win, banshees and focusing him in team fights really destroys him. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On August 08 2011 00:26 Craton wrote: There are cheese lanes like that used, usually seen as some form of blitz/alistar or brandt/taric. The problem is they're gimmick lanes -- if you don't gib something, you're going to lose the lane. how is it gimmick? I dont see why you have to kill sth at all with that lane. If the babysitter lane knows what their doing then they will sit back and play passive while trying to poke. But a dualstun/burst combo bottom can also deny them and just punish em when they try sth silly. I dont think its gimmick/cheese when it worked for years in dota. Its just way more coordination depenand than babysitting+ farming. Basicly almost every taric+ something lane is a bit like this and often it doesnt kill but just deny (which is way more effective in the long run if you do it right). | ||
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Kaneh
Canada737 Posts
On August 08 2011 03:45 clickrush wrote: how is it gimmick? I dont see why you have to kill sth at all with that lane. If the babysitter lane knows what their doing then they will sit back and play passive while trying to poke. But a dualstun/burst combo bottom can also deny them and just punish em when they try sth silly. I dont think its gimmick/cheese when it worked for years in dota. Its just way more coordination depenand than babysitting+ farming. Basicly almost every taric+ something lane is a bit like this and often it doesnt kill but just deny (which is way more effective in the long run if you do it right). and then.... SORAKA. but hey counters are the reason there are bans | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
No, plz explain. | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
Well you see Shake when a man and a man really love each other like taric and ezreal, they give each other gems. Truly outrageous gems. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
k im gonna have mercy on you | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On August 08 2011 04:31 HazMat wrote: I was joking but k. you already knew about it? haha... what a nerd. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
On August 08 2011 03:45 clickrush wrote: how is it gimmick? I dont see why you have to kill sth at all with that lane. If the babysitter lane knows what their doing then they will sit back and play passive while trying to poke. But a dualstun/burst combo bottom can also deny them and just punish em when they try sth silly. I dont think its gimmick/cheese when it worked for years in dota. Its just way more coordination depenand than babysitting+ farming. Basicly almost every taric+ something lane is a bit like this and often it doesnt kill but just deny (which is way more effective in the long run if you do it right). 'cause the AD lane is going to have way better poke and put you in the hp danger zone in an exchange where they don't die and they can simply sustain back up + abuse having superior range. If you don't kill them, you get zoned. In the case of Brand/Taric you don't necessarily get zoned or outfarmed, but your AP is lower level than the enemy AP and since AP need levels more than AD (typically), you're behind in that regard. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
also mantheon's spear can now crit and you can chain cast HSS lulz | ||
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