• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:10
CEST 17:10
KST 00:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?12FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event14Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster14Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29) WardiTV Mondays SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 $200 Biweekly - StarCraft Evolution League #1
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Unit and Spell Similarities
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL20] ProLeague LB Final - Saturday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Game Sound vs. Music: The Im…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 638 users

Replays and Commentaries - Page 2

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
May 17 2011 01:01 GMT
#21
--- Nuked ---
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1015 Posts
May 17 2011 10:23 GMT
#22
As a low level player (still not even 30), it's great to watch games like this. Just took a ganders at the Pantheon one, and things like the last hitting and team work are just in a different league from what I'm used to seeing.

Cheers
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 21:53:11
May 17 2011 21:52 GMT
#23
On May 17 2011 07:48 Ecael wrote:
Loci, on your Garen, is the mpen worth it for just ult and sunfire damage?

Also, I suppose that your Garen's premise is just to dominate duo lane, would you go 21/0/9 in other circumstances?


Yeah, the MPen is pretty much for the ult (MPen bonus for sunfire is pretty small). 21 0 9 works too, however I prefer the armor and MR over the experience boost, and I think both perseverance and good hands are relatively worthless as far as masteries go. I pretty much always go offensive tree because I think it's important to try to take advantage of Garen's strong early game, and offensive tree is perfect for that. I take the MPen and cdr over attack speed because I think attack speed is relatively useless on Garen. You really won't find yourself in a scenario where you're auto-attacking anyone for an extended period of time. Might as well get Mpen on a huge magic damage nuke (his ult).

Also, Morgana replay uploaded!
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
May 17 2011 22:07 GMT
#24
OMG MORGANA YESS
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
May 17 2011 22:47 GMT
#25
Loci number 1 morg
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
rewtamus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States327 Posts
May 18 2011 12:04 GMT
#26
hi loci good stuff, watched 2 of them so far

please make more
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 18 2011 18:18 GMT
#27
loci, u ever try running 21/9/0 with dodge seals and the nimbleness mastery on Garen? I know dodge is cheesy and all, but I liek getting those extra MS procs as I spin on someone's face =3.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-18 19:18:13
May 18 2011 18:33 GMT
#28
<3333333333333333

morg has always been my fav hero

Edit: would love to see a morg game gone wrong, she seems to turn into dead weight faster than most heroes if she gets picked on by a jungler/roamer. Maybe it's just me playing the wrong way when i'm behind.

Also, do you get flat mana regen out of personal preference or do you think it's required for her early game mana issues?
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 18 2011 19:03 GMT
#29
If you get around to it loci, I'd like to see Jungle Xin if you have the time. Xin is one of my favorites, but I just can't seem to find ways to win with him in ranked. Tips would be appreciated. Morg video was very well put together, definitely dig the screenshot of the runes and masteries in the zip. Makes it much easier than writing it down with pen and paper.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
sRapers_ValkS
Profile Joined August 2009
United States644 Posts
May 18 2011 19:27 GMT
#30
On May 19 2011 03:33 WirelessWaffle wrote:
<3333333333333333

morg has always been my fav hero

Edit: would love to see a morg game gone wrong, she seems to turn into dead weight faster than most heroes if she gets picked on by a jungler/roamer. Maybe it's just me playing the wrong way when i'm behind.

Also, do you get flat mana regen out of personal preference or do you think it's required for her early game mana issues?

when i'm behind with morg i just immediately get hourglass so that the stun on ult is more or less guaranteed. That way when you stun their team, die, and then the rest of your team dies you can at least say "why didn't you kill them! i got em all! hard not to feed when we have no damage.........."
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
May 18 2011 23:12 GMT
#31
requesting a nasus game please :>


also Loci, with your commentaries, could you make it a little more obvious as to when you actually start the replay? Like with the Morg commentary you talk for a bit then mention you're at 17 seconds into the game. I had to adjust things and I was never quite sure if I was totally synced with you. Thanks.
it's my first day
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 07:17:23
May 19 2011 07:15 GMT
#32
@ Mogwai:

Hmm, that's actually a smart idea. I like getting the health per level because I like to get dps items and the extra health is helpful since my build lacks health early on, but nimbleness and would be good for sure. In fact it's probably better than my build. I most definitely think it's a good idea!

@ Waffle:

I get flat mana regen out of preference, mana per level is also perfectly fine!

@ Cixah:

If you watch replay 6 you can actually watch our jungle xin, I think he played well and did a good job so you could learn a lot form him. To be honest I'm not a fantastic jungler (I can do it at a high level, but I'm of course not as kobe or saint vicious), so I recommend watching that game for tips. After watching that game if you still want me to do a game as jungle xin let me know.

@ Myopia:

I most definitely will try to do a better job synchronizing my commentaries. Ironically my latest replay I forgot to sync it, haha... And, surprise:

Nasus game uploaded! I had a lot of fun with this game. I think my new build is pretty effective and exciting, so check it out! However, I forgot to synchronize this game, which is pretty unacceptable on my part. Nasus got me too excited, I forgot to synchronize, haha. If you guys really want I can go back and make a new recording. I'm really sorry =/. Let me know, if it's an issue I will make a new one.



Weiks
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland13 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 08:03:43
May 19 2011 08:02 GMT
#33
Great stuff! How about combining the audio and recording and making a youtube channel for great justice?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 19 2011 14:58 GMT
#34
Zzzz you keep talking about having mana issues but you don't seem to value the Mana on Sheen...

Yeah I should have saved that Xin (I 100% could), I was just way too surprised by him even getting caught.
Come on, I was 99% safe trying to do a lucky Dragon steal. I'd have been a hero if I got it!
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Stealthpenguin
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland393 Posts
May 19 2011 16:39 GMT
#35
Any chance of a poppy game? Assuming you play her at all.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 20:21:08
May 19 2011 20:03 GMT
#36
Pretty impressed with nasus game, most people just go derp and get mercs into trinity force. Only thing I'd add would be to consider glacial shroud. Frozen heart seems to be the better choice for armour anyway, and gives you mana/armour/cdr which are all very useful in lane, cdr helps with farming. Not sure on brutalizer, but its definitely strong as hell. I'm having slot issues though because when you want to stack armour mres because your ult gives you so much hp, so you have to do things like build trinity straight from sheen and FoN straight from negatron.

I also get 4 CDR/lvl blues because I find I miss about 4% cdr and you don't need it that much until later anyway, and it allows you to get some more MRes on your blues. Even that 4% hurts my mres a lot.

Right now I'd say for your 6 slots around 30 minutes something like:
Mercs+Glacial+Brutal+Aegis+Sheen+Negatron (31% cdr+runes, 5% more when FH is finished)
or
Ionian+Eleisa's+Glacial+Aegis+Sheen+Negatron (36% + runes, 5% more with FH finished)
building frozen heart into trinity into FoN. Warmogs when it makes sense. The problem is you either have to sell aegis to get it so its only worth it when its later on and people are rocking LWs/VS and you really need the hp/hp regen. It probably won't be an issue most games.

Found hp/level runes to be silly, why not flat armour for lane, or armour/level if lane isn't a problem? You get so much health from ult and you can easily go like shurelya's or something if you are lacking it and want cdr+mercs or something.

Are you sure about ghost/flash? You only used flash once or something, maybe try exhaust since with whither on your carry with max CDR you can exhaust the next highest damage dealer when he's doing something annoying or use it to help kill people in teamfights. I use teleport a lot in solo top because it helps not lose lane to strong laners, and helps you farm and push towers without having to let your team get screwed 4v5 or tower dived.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 20 2011 14:00 GMT
#37
Have you tried starting regrowth instead of cloth+5 pots Loci? Since philo is nowadays considered really good pick (and you bought it as well) i wonder if that would work.
Also why hp/lvl seals over armor seals?

This morgana game seemed so onesided That mid gank at lvl 3 (i think) was awesome and so many clutch black shields. Makes me want to play morg but i know i will suck terribly.

The idea of attaching pics of masteries and runes is awesome BTW
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 22 2011 05:47 GMT
#38
Loved the morgana replay!
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
baneling
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada56 Posts
May 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#39
Thank you for these replay/commentaries, I very much appreciate them. :D
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-26 10:24:05
May 26 2011 10:23 GMT
#40
Loci massing kennen games, fanboys - me included - awaiting replays
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 398
Nina 276
ProTech61
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 11196
Flash 3174
Sea 3095
Mini 911
BeSt 617
Shuttle 589
Hyuk 544
EffOrt 489
Soma 434
Snow 323
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 303
Stork 260
ZerO 240
Light 199
GuemChi 180
hero 176
Rush 102
Mind 89
sas.Sziky 61
Sea.KH 57
Hyun 48
Movie 41
Shinee 35
Pusan 33
Barracks 32
Trikslyr30
Backho 29
Yoon 22
Shine 12
scan(afreeca) 11
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
Bale 3
Dota 2
Gorgc10130
qojqva3184
League of Legends
singsing2800
Counter-Strike
byalli268
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi132
Mew2King123
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor58
Other Games
hiko960
B2W.Neo707
Lowko464
DeMusliM408
Happy383
Fuzer 281
QueenE62
ArmadaUGS56
ZerO(Twitch)22
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 70
• poizon28 22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV590
• lizZardDota264
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
8h 50m
The PondCast
18h 50m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs Cham
WardiTV European League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs SHIN
Reynor vs Cure
WardiTV European League
3 days
FEL
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
FEL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
FEL
5 days
BSL: ProLeague
5 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.