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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 21:28:40
March 15 2011 21:28 GMT
#1161
On March 16 2011 06:23 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:12 TheYango wrote:
Does Wriggles->Triforce seem like it would work on Nocturne?

name a character that builds Wriggles where Wriggles -> Triforce doesn't "work".

I mean, it might not always be optimal, but it's always pretty effective in my experience.

Warwick? (Though I guess Wriggles isn't all that common on him, and probably not optimal either.)
I'd say Olaf but I don't play Olaf so I don't know how good Triforce Olaf is.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 15 2011 21:30 GMT
#1162
On March 16 2011 06:28 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:23 Mogwai wrote:
On March 16 2011 06:12 TheYango wrote:
Does Wriggles->Triforce seem like it would work on Nocturne?

name a character that builds Wriggles where Wriggles -> Triforce doesn't "work".

I mean, it might not always be optimal, but it's always pretty effective in my experience.

Warwick? (Though I guess Wriggles isn't all that common on him, and probably not optimal either.)
I'd say Olaf but I don't play Olaf so I don't know how good Triforce Olaf is.

They're both actually probably pretty good with wriggle's -> Triforce. Again, better builds are certainly out there, but I see no reason why it wouldn't be exceptionally strong on them for the same reasons as everyone else.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 21:31:08
March 15 2011 21:30 GMT
#1163
On March 16 2011 06:27 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:26 LoCicero wrote:
I don't know if Riot understands how strong Leblanc is. I personally think she is the strongest burst caster in the game hands down. We'll see how long it takes them to realize this.

2 weeks ago I would've called bullshit on this, but running into Maknoob's smurf a few times has shown me the light. That bitch is fucking crazy, nerf plz.


Players in general are pretty awful at casters. You rarely see Swain, Leblanc, etc played up to their true potential. Anivia was like that for a while until people caught on. Then ta-da, Anivia nerfs for like two patches straight.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 15 2011 21:30 GMT
#1164
On March 16 2011 06:30 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:28 TheYango wrote:
On March 16 2011 06:23 Mogwai wrote:
On March 16 2011 06:12 TheYango wrote:
Does Wriggles->Triforce seem like it would work on Nocturne?

name a character that builds Wriggles where Wriggles -> Triforce doesn't "work".

I mean, it might not always be optimal, but it's always pretty effective in my experience.

Warwick? (Though I guess Wriggles isn't all that common on him, and probably not optimal either.)
I'd say Olaf but I don't play Olaf so I don't know how good Triforce Olaf is.

They're both actually probably pretty good with wriggle's -> Triforce. Again, better builds are certainly out there, but I see no reason why it wouldn't be exceptionally strong on them for the same reasons as everyone else.


I hate WW now, huk. He feels so deadweight.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
March 15 2011 21:40 GMT
#1165
On March 16 2011 06:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:27 Mogwai wrote:
On March 16 2011 06:26 LoCicero wrote:
I don't know if Riot understands how strong Leblanc is. I personally think she is the strongest burst caster in the game hands down. We'll see how long it takes them to realize this.

2 weeks ago I would've called bullshit on this, but running into Maknoob's smurf a few times has shown me the light. That bitch is fucking crazy, nerf plz.


Players in general are pretty awful at casters. You rarely see Swain, Leblanc, etc played up to their true potential. Anivia was like that for a while until people caught on. Then ta-da, Anivia nerfs for like two patches straight.


Yeah, same with Veigar, nerfs coming soon. lol j/k he's awful.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
March 15 2011 21:42 GMT
#1166
Ohhh my god I hate Nocturn wow
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 15 2011 21:44 GMT
#1167
On March 16 2011 06:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:30 Mogwai wrote:
On March 16 2011 06:28 TheYango wrote:
On March 16 2011 06:23 Mogwai wrote:
On March 16 2011 06:12 TheYango wrote:
Does Wriggles->Triforce seem like it would work on Nocturne?

name a character that builds Wriggles where Wriggles -> Triforce doesn't "work".

I mean, it might not always be optimal, but it's always pretty effective in my experience.

Warwick? (Though I guess Wriggles isn't all that common on him, and probably not optimal either.)
I'd say Olaf but I don't play Olaf so I don't know how good Triforce Olaf is.

They're both actually probably pretty good with wriggle's -> Triforce. Again, better builds are certainly out there, but I see no reason why it wouldn't be exceptionally strong on them for the same reasons as everyone else.


I hate WW now, huk. He feels so deadweight.

really? I still like him a lot, his lategame vs. tanks is so good and with malz getting more popular you can run double suppression bullshit which is pretty mean.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 15 2011 21:46 GMT
#1168
I agree with LB being not played to her full potential, it seems very difficult to most players. I always considered her a mix of kassadin and annie. Also i hate her passive, i lost so many solos vs LB just because i counted my burst properly, yet i didn't take her passive into account. So i stand here being hit by minions and then she reappears so i have to check which one has items... Oh crap, she got me. I feel like you really need to make sure her passive is down if you want to kill her in 1 burst, else she will escape (or you may risk casting skills blindly with only 50% chance of hitting her clone )
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 15 2011 21:48 GMT
#1169
Stupid nocturne.

Fight happens in jungle. Teammate next to you but standing brush. You do not stand in brush. You do not see teammate right next to you.

Bullshit.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 15 2011 22:12 GMT
#1170
On March 16 2011 06:46 Kaniol wrote:
I agree with LB being not played to her full potential, it seems very difficult to most players. I always considered her a mix of kassadin and annie. Also i hate her passive, i lost so many solos vs LB just because i counted my burst properly, yet i didn't take her passive into account. So i stand here being hit by minions and then she reappears so i have to check which one has items... Oh crap, she got me. I feel like you really need to make sure her passive is down if you want to kill her in 1 burst, else she will escape (or you may risk casting skills blindly with only 50% chance of hitting her clone )

The cooldown on her passive is ridiculously low though. I don't think I ever managed to kill a LB without having to deal with her passive.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
kxr1der
Profile Joined March 2009
United States213 Posts
March 16 2011 00:44 GMT
#1171
On March 16 2011 07:12 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:46 Kaniol wrote:
I agree with LB being not played to her full potential, it seems very difficult to most players. I always considered her a mix of kassadin and annie. Also i hate her passive, i lost so many solos vs LB just because i counted my burst properly, yet i didn't take her passive into account. So i stand here being hit by minions and then she reappears so i have to check which one has items... Oh crap, she got me. I feel like you really need to make sure her passive is down if you want to kill her in 1 burst, else she will escape (or you may risk casting skills blindly with only 50% chance of hitting her clone )

The cooldown on her passive is ridiculously low though. I don't think I ever managed to kill a LB without having to deal with her passive.


Im pretty sure with Leblancs passive she is always the one further away but Im not 100%
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 16 2011 01:17 GMT
#1172
I think leblanc is still pretty junk, she can only burst one single person and that's all, she also needs to be pretty close and vulnerable for anything more than QQ, and if she wastes her W she can't escape. She also can't farm at all.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
March 16 2011 01:24 GMT
#1173
cho nerfs QQ
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
March 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#1174
On March 16 2011 06:26 LoCicero wrote:
I don't know if Riot understands how strong Leblanc is. I personally think she is the strongest burst caster in the game hands down. We'll see how long it takes them to realize this.


Last I heard. The guy in charge of LeBlanc said he wanted to buff her if possible. I really don't think they'll do anything to her yet. She's strong early game and for nuking the shit out of ranged carrys but you need a good team comp that can still do damage after you get sniped off from going after the enemy carry.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 16 2011 02:48 GMT
#1175
Leblanc just suffers from the fact that she is a single target assassin. Unlike akali, kass or kat, she cant really bounce from target to target. She is a BEAST early and mid game, but unless you are able to complete a full combo late game, your gonna struggle a little bit. It sucks that she cant be more of a teamfight presence, but she just wasnt designed that way.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
March 16 2011 05:21 GMT
#1176
So these xp changes, anyone notice if its more difficult to gank duo lanes? Is the 5% noticeable?

Cant wait to try out nocturne tonight. That ult sounds nasty. It's global right?
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 16 2011 05:24 GMT
#1177
yall niggas need to watch some maknoon. give that fucker 2 kills and he'll 2 shot anyone/everyone on your team for the next 20 minutes. LB is stupid as shit.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
kxr1der
Profile Joined March 2009
United States213 Posts
March 16 2011 05:42 GMT
#1178
On March 16 2011 14:21 Khul Sadukar wrote:
So these xp changes, anyone notice if its more difficult to gank duo lanes? Is the 5% noticeable?

Cant wait to try out nocturne tonight. That ult sounds nasty. It's global right?


The range in actually shorter than i had thought, but still pretty far and scales down.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 16 2011 15:12 GMT
#1179
On March 16 2011 14:21 Khul Sadukar wrote:
So these xp changes, anyone notice if its more difficult to gank duo lanes? Is the 5% noticeable?

Cant wait to try out nocturne tonight. That ult sounds nasty. It's global right?


The sight debuff is global, but the attack I think only has 4k range or something like that.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 16 2011 16:06 GMT
#1180
On March 16 2011 14:24 Mogwai wrote:
yall niggas need to watch some maknoon. give that fucker 2 kills and he'll 2 shot anyone/everyone on your team for the next 20 minutes. LB is stupid as shit.


still tho, nerfing a hero based on 1 player's skill seems a bit off, just my 2 cents
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
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