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-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
February 16 2011 08:51 GMT
#881
Am I the only one who is happy about the Mummy buffs?

Tantrum passive twice as good!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 14:59:06
February 16 2011 10:41 GMT
#882
I actually like the CDR changes, now those "useless items" are much cheaper.
gonna buy frozen heart and silver sash more often for my melee carries.

and Irelia is not nerfed, yeah!
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
February 16 2011 11:07 GMT
#883
What items are cheaper? Frozen Heart is 300 cheaper, the rest are just nerfs to Randiuns and Visage, no cost change.
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
February 16 2011 14:50 GMT
#884
All around good patch imo. First patch in a while that hasn't had some insane, out of left field, change.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 15:02:50
February 16 2011 14:59 GMT
#885
On February 16 2011 20:07 -Kato- wrote:
What items are cheaper? Frozen Heart is 300 cheaper, the rest are just nerfs to Randiuns and Visage, no cost change.

Randuin's Omen cooldown reduction decreased to 5% from 8%
Spirit Visage cooldown reduction decreased to 10% from 12%

thats only 2% change, not a big deal imho

the only big change is Ionian Boots price increment , but it was under-priced anyways, so I think its a good change
Frorgon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States146 Posts
February 16 2011 15:03 GMT
#886
So yeah Riot tells us that he'll be a "spell machine gun" and that they're going to reduce his cooldowns to make up for the nerf to his damage, but instead they increase all the cooldowns but one? Good thinking. He looks worse than before and bottom tier.
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
February 16 2011 15:04 GMT
#887
new item from codex :DDDD

that's awesome, my lux just became slightly better. now i won't get yelled at for getting DFG all the time lol
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
February 16 2011 15:15 GMT
#888
On February 17 2011 00:04 SaetZero wrote:
new item from codex :DDDD

that's awesome, my lux just became slightly better. now i won't get yelled at for getting DFG all the time lol

new item will get a buff

@Morello

I think this will need some love to compete. Am already looking into it - this was my bad on a numbers analysis and I'll make sure to correct it.

I think the best use is to combine with DFG, but seems to give you too little overall AP.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 16 2011 15:24 GMT
#889
Wow, Ryze is so trash now. =/ "Decrease cooldowns and increase range" = increase range by like 50 and increase all cooldowns but 1 spell's. "spell machine gun" my ass -_- Back to bottom.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
puckstop101
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada132 Posts
February 16 2011 15:37 GMT
#890
hmm i wonder if goast still works with sanguine pool, since they remove the small bonus he got form movespeed i wonder if goast movespeed wuold work too
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
February 16 2011 15:41 GMT
#891
On February 17 2011 00:24 Shikyo wrote:
Wow, Ryze is so trash now. =/ "Decrease cooldowns and increase range" = increase range by like 50 and increase all cooldowns but 1 spell's. "spell machine gun" my ass -_- Back to bottom.


You do understand that his Q reduces all his other cooldowns right? So more Q's equals more everything.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
February 16 2011 15:46 GMT
#892
Honestly, I have no idea why they even added this new item. Blue Elix already became such a strong source of CDR after the Elixier change (less cost but same amount of CDR and duration), and then there are CDR boots, DFG, Kindlegem and Galacial Shroud.

Imo we need a couple of items that combine HP with offensive stats like AD, ASpd, Crit, APen. All we have is Triforce (250 HP on a 4k item) and Frozen Mallet. The AP side has RoA, Rylai's, Guise, all very good items. It's just really tough to work HP into physical builds unless you are Sivir.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
February 16 2011 15:46 GMT
#893
On February 17 2011 00:24 Shikyo wrote:
Wow, Ryze is so trash now. =/ "Decrease cooldowns and increase range" = increase range by like 50 and increase all cooldowns but 1 spell's. "spell machine gun" my ass -_- Back to bottom.


People completely disregard his passive... And regarding ranges: remember how Zilean was crap at laning until they increased Bomb range by 50? He also got some substain with his ult.

Anivia however is really bad right now since she relies on her Ult to land her chillbonus and skillshot. Yeah it propably was too easy e->r but what is she supposed to do now? Q is still the slowest projectile in the game. It´s now more efficient to harrass with a unboosted E since no sane player eats a non-point blank Q.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
February 16 2011 15:57 GMT
#894
Ehhh, expected much bigger changes to cdr and vlad. When Riot say they are gonna 'fix' vlad I expected his early game and the whole hero getting destroyed. >_<

Anivia hit pretty hard which is kinda justified, but when the other amazing AP heroes aren't touched I don't really like it.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
February 16 2011 16:03 GMT
#895
I've only got one word to say about this patch:

BOOOOOOOORING.
Retvrn to Forvms
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
February 16 2011 16:08 GMT
#896
Main thing I was thinking when I saw the new item is that I tend to do something along this line....


codex and boots on first trip back > haunting guise > upgrade boots > lich bane > survivability item > deathcap

now at some point, i can upgrade codex into something early on, beef up the line a lil

codex boots > guise > upgrade codex > upgrade boots > lichbane

or something


will hafta test, but i'll have an option now that isn't dfg, which as cool as it is, it does lose its flavor a little bit

or if i need more offensive cdr gear, i can get DFG/new thing/hourglass and bring a lot of utility to the table without soaking up the groups blue buff


i dont know, just things to think about, will hafta actually do in game and see how it works
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
AtlaS
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1001 Posts
February 16 2011 16:11 GMT
#897
So disappointed in Maokai. I was expecting those saplings to be something like teemo's mushrooms. maybe not 10 minutes, but at least like one or two minutes, not 25 seconds. Also, that knock-back is NOTHING. He barely pushes the guy. I thought it was going to be more like Alistar's knock-back, not a light tap.

The only new champ I wanted to buy for a while and I do a complete 180 after seeing the spotlight. Damnnn
I don't have mono anymore. Woooo!
SaetZero
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-16 16:38:37
February 16 2011 16:25 GMT
#898
edit: noted, thanks, :|
Never Forget. #TheRevolutionist
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
February 16 2011 16:29 GMT
#899
On February 17 2011 01:25 SaetZero wrote:
@atlas

i am interested in the new hero, can you answer some quick q's since im at work? (or anyone really lol)


-whats his ip/rp cost?
-spotlight shows him as a tanky guy, is he more full tank, or tanky with some ap items?
-does anything do enough damage to make him viable as straight caster?
-is his ults damage reduction thing really strong? does it stack well with randuins active?

He wouldn't know. He only watched the spotlight. The patch is supposed to take a long time today I guess.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 16 2011 16:29 GMT
#900
On February 17 2011 00:41 ghen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 00:24 Shikyo wrote:
Wow, Ryze is so trash now. =/ "Decrease cooldowns and increase range" = increase range by like 50 and increase all cooldowns but 1 spell's. "spell machine gun" my ass -_- Back to bottom.


You do understand that his Q reduces all his other cooldowns right? So more Q's equals more everything.

Yeah of course, but do you even see how long his other cooldowns are now? It's going to be R QWEQ wait Q and then maybe luckily something, the dmg also is garbage.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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