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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 22 2011 23:29 GMT
#12941
Her e should scale with level. You max q first anyway, so scale e range so that by the time teamfights start, she has a long enough range to not be completely vulnerable.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
April 22 2011 23:50 GMT
#12942
On an unrelated note, it took almost a full game before I figured out E wasn't a skillshot T_T
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 00:12:34
April 23 2011 00:11 GMT
#12943
Banshee veil destroys Cass from what I've seen. Both poisons go through the Veil unaffected, but when you E it seems like it goes on cooldown when it hits the veil. GG

On April 23 2011 08:22 Tooplark wrote:
she don't need manahax because her spells only cost .0120935 mana each anyways
Not true, cass uses mana up insanely fast
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Raynian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 00:15:52
April 23 2011 00:14 GMT
#12944
Cass's Q pops banshee's. As for making her better, she just needs a little bit more range on her spells. Maybe 50 more on Q/E. And fixing the bug with E where it sometimes won't cooldown properly. I've had it not refresh occasionally, when I know I've Q/E'd a minion.

I feel Cass needs at least an AA staff to be useful. One, it charges really fast, but two, without it you just run out of mana instantly in teamfights. You should be constantly poking pre-fight.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 23 2011 00:14 GMT
#12945
since casseopia came out i have seen her in exactly 2 games, on my team both times, and we won both games
casseOPia? nah, the cass went like 2-9-4 both games

really underhwhelming champion imo
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 23 2011 00:17 GMT
#12946
On April 23 2011 09:14 Raynian wrote:
Cass's Q pops banshee's. As for making her better, she just needs a little bit more range on her spells. Maybe 50 more on Q/E. And fixing the bug with E where it sometimes won't cooldown properly. I've had it not refresh occasionally, when I know I've Q/E'd a minion.

I feel Cass needs at least an AA staff to be useful. One, it charges really fast, but two, without it you just run out of mana instantly in teamfights. You should be constantly poking pre-fight.

Oh, Q pops it? That's good then, maybe I just missed every Q somehow...

I'd say she needs AA as well but actually she just doesn't have the time/slots to get it. Really sucks imo.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Raynian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 00:21:15
April 23 2011 00:20 GMT
#12947
Nah, get it early on. I open Dring -> Tear + Boots and mercs if I really need it, but sorcs+guise more often than not. Having 54 mpen and an AA staff at ~20 minutes is really solid, since Cass's Q deals tons of damage for such a short cooldown spell.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 00:23:19
April 23 2011 00:22 GMT
#12948
I've tried that but then I haven't had enough AP to farm properly early on, and she still feels superweak until deathcap. You also definitely won't get all those items by 20min.

EDIT: But what order do you skill in?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Raynian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States50 Posts
April 23 2011 00:26 GMT
#12949
QWQEQ, R>Q>W>E. It's not very safe to level E in lane since you don't want to be close enough to take damage. W makes it fairly easy to kill creeps too, with that setup. W+Q will kill the ranged creeps, then you can back up to last hit the melee creeps without getting harassed. Also, I like the slow on W more than a little more damage on E since I tend to only use E when I'm finishing up a kill.
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
April 23 2011 00:26 GMT
#12950
OP laning snake is OP (not really).

On another note, going 1v2 against Maokai's little can't-be-targeted-by-towers herpaderps is highly aggravating.
So zen.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 23 2011 00:27 GMT
#12951
Finally bought Galio today. So far 2-0 in 3v3s. Looking forward to Sunday when I get to play for the full day.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 23 2011 00:30 GMT
#12952
On April 23 2011 09:26 Raynian wrote:
QWQEQ, R>Q>W>E. It's not very safe to level E in lane since you don't want to be close enough to take damage. W makes it fairly easy to kill creeps too, with that setup. W+Q will kill the ranged creeps, then you can back up to last hit the melee creeps without getting harassed. Also, I like the slow on W more than a little more damage on E since I tend to only use E when I'm finishing up a kill.

Yeah I've been noticing that E first of all uses way too much mana and second, pulls minion aggro so that you can't even harrass the opponent properly. However, I just don't seem to deal any dmg with that build. =/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#12953
I used to go tear first on some casters, then I realized that catalyst is just BETTER. Get tear if you going archangels, but only second. Cata passive is just imba.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 23 2011 00:36 GMT
#12954
I need catalyst on Cass to lane properly, definitely. Then my build would be Cata -> Tear -> Guise -> AA -> Deathcap, and that just seems too slow to me although it might work out properly in the end.

Currently, I do Cata -> Deathcap and then Banshee Veil, Rylai, Void in the order that makes the most sense
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 23 2011 00:37 GMT
#12955
On April 23 2011 09:36 Shikyo wrote:
I need catalyst on Cass to lane properly, definitely. Then my build would be Cata -> Tear -> Guise -> AA -> Deathcap, and that just seems too slow to me although it might work out properly in the end.

Currently, I do Cata -> Deathcap and then Banshee Veil, Rylai, Void in the order that makes the most sense

IMO that Guise is just too late. By the time you've got Cata+Tear+Sorcs+Guise, its very possible that there will be enough Negatron Cloaks in the game that skipping Guise would have been better.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 23 2011 00:39 GMT
#12956
On April 23 2011 09:37 TheYango wrote:
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On April 23 2011 09:36 Shikyo wrote:
I need catalyst on Cass to lane properly, definitely. Then my build would be Cata -> Tear -> Guise -> AA -> Deathcap, and that just seems too slow to me although it might work out properly in the end.

Currently, I do Cata -> Deathcap and then Banshee Veil, Rylai, Void in the order that makes the most sense

IMO that Guise is just too late. By the time you've got Cata+Tear+Sorcs+Guise, its very possible that there will be enough Negatron Cloaks in the game that skipping Guise would have been better.

Yeah, and I really can't skip either Cata or Tear. So it just seems like the Guise doesn't work. Also, I guess I need to rush deathcap before Archangel. But still I like having 2 slots left for defensive items instead of just one... But I need mana regen. The only disposable item would be Rylais...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 23 2011 00:42 GMT
#12957
If you arent going ROA, then cata>cap the way to go. If you cant manage your mana or arent gonna get blue, i guess tear is fine.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
April 23 2011 00:45 GMT
#12958
Accidentally spotted: CLG vs IoV live soon, maybe. No observer mode, maybe. The official stream seems to be saintvicious', who is watching a delayed stream by jiji.

Is there a magic trick to make the ESL site make any sense, or even to get to some timetables, brackets and such? It all seems to be put together really randomly.
So zen.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
April 23 2011 01:05 GMT
#12959
not really...or atleast my 2 years of trying to figuring it out has failed....
washed
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 23 2011 01:07 GMT
#12960
If anyone cares, I am starting a series of me playing LoL on youtube (just like I have a MC series), one game each video, switching between Shen, Galio and possibly Kayle.

Here is the first video:
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
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