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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 09:11:05
April 12 2011 08:27 GMT
#12081
These Riotards...
Weren't they supposed to nerf basic damage on Renek's skills by 30% and vastly increase AD ratios to the values of like 2-3 dmg per AD?

EDIT:
Regarding XZ nerf:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=7796556 I'm bad and can't link directly to the red post but scroll down a little
Does anyone else find this explanation a little dumb? "XZ can reach a point end-game where one on one fights with him end with you CC'ed by three talon strikes two or three times in the span of three seconds"
Really Riot? How often do you have 1v1 fights endgame? Not to mention that changing his E doesn't really nerf his Q... Later he also says "Well, let me be more specific here, the victim of XZ's alpha has no counterplay. Everyone else on his team can counter XZ while he is busy destroying his victim but that's not exactly gameplay we can promote everywhere. It doesn't scale well.".
What is the point of asassin then? Having 50% chances of winning 1v1 and 100% chances of losing 5v5? Is it really what Riot wants to do? To make all assassins equal to other champions in 1v1 while being useless 5v5? (XZ maybe isn't useless 5v5 but i feel like he isn't as strong in teamfights as most tanky dps)
Unentschieden
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany1471 Posts
April 12 2011 09:37 GMT
#12082
XZ is a Bruiser. As such he is supposed to balance his offense or defense dynamically to be able to challenge the enemies with substained damage.
Assassins use burst and high mobility without durability or substained DPS.

Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 12 2011 10:43 GMT
#12083
Im confused, its not like singed wont split push fast anymore, just not as fast...

In fact, it might be better because you cant catch him at all with his ulti on.

Go riot ~_~
In the woods, there lurks..
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 11:32:39
April 12 2011 10:46 GMT
#12084
On April 12 2011 18:37 Unentschieden wrote:
XZ is a Bruiser. As such he is supposed to balance his offense or defense dynamically to be able to challenge the enemies with substained damage.
Assassins use burst and high mobility without durability or substained DPS.


Derp?
He is considered (by Riot) both an assassin and a bruiser - Irelia is actually considered only an assassin

EDIT: Honestly we may not agree with their "tags" but tbh if they release a champion and he is supposed to fill a role, they should balance him around this role. So if they give an assassin role to XZ , then he should really be good at 1v1ing
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 12 2011 12:05 GMT
#12085
Wohoo, Galio buffs. Now i just need to save up the IP to buy him T_T.

Oh well, at least I still have Shen (with a slightly nerfed ult that i mostly use for teleporting, not helping anyways)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 12 2011 12:13 GMT
#12086
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
April 12 2011 12:18 GMT
#12087
I think riotXypherous had a point in the chain CC, fighting a Xin with enough AS and CDR felt like getting slapped to death by a Void with a Basher.

I have no idea where they are getting this "assassin" role though, since his kit is initiation, CC, and durability...
KOPF
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Finland164 Posts
April 12 2011 12:23 GMT
#12088
Are the LoL EU servers still down?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 12 2011 12:24 GMT
#12089
On April 12 2011 21:18 Flakes wrote:
I think riotXypherous had a point in the chain CC, fighting a Xin with enough AS and CDR felt like getting slapped to death by a Void with a Basher.

Yeah, taking 50 seconds to 1v1 someone requires nerfing, but a Veigar R-clicking a caster is fine because the death is quicker.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 12 2011 12:26 GMT
#12090
On April 12 2011 21:23 KOPF wrote:
Are the LoL EU servers still down?


Yup.
AtTheFuneral
Profile Joined December 2009
United States137 Posts
April 12 2011 12:43 GMT
#12091
Maybe it's just me but someone needs to tell riot the saying if it isn't broke don't fix it.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 12 2011 12:55 GMT
#12092
Godammit, are the servers down?
IMO it's probably just my school blocking torrents, cuz I can't patch...
Anyone know a good workaround for that?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 13:09:38
April 12 2011 13:05 GMT
#12093
On April 12 2011 21:18 Flakes wrote:
I think riotXypherous had a point in the chain CC, fighting a Xin with enough AS and CDR felt like getting slapped to death by a Void with a Basher.

I have no idea where they are getting this "assassin" role though, since his kit is initiation, CC, and durability...


Many players play xin as an assassin. Build him tanky enough to survive initial burst and just e->r->qw the carry and instagib them. If the carry doesn't actually die they're so weak that they can't fight or will be 1 shot, so just move onto someone else with your team.

The constant nerfs for him are moronic though. He may become the next garen. "Herp derp i'm op" when first introduced to low tier trash.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 12 2011 13:06 GMT
#12094
On April 12 2011 16:13 BluzMan wrote:
LOL WHAT?

The changes to Xin straight kill him and he wasn't OP in the first place. They first nerfed Q to make it non-viable, well, okay, Xin players started to max E, now they nerf the CD on E (to make it not worth leveling as well) AND reduce the duration on W so that cooldown chaining that made Xin unique doesn't exist anymore. As if it wasn't enough, let's reduce the duration on his ultimate so that he dies even faster, and Xin was never the king of tankiness with his ghostblade first build. Oh and yeah, his cloth armor now upgrades into nothing since neither Wriggles nor HoG work anymore. What skills should I level now? Max W first or what?

It seems that they are hinting at the new Xin Zhao play style: full armor pen page, only build armor pen items, take flash. When a fight starts, flash into the middle of the enemy team, ult and die.

Seriously, this is the most retarded patch in the history of LoL, fuck it.

EDIT: Oh I get it now. Yesterday I raped some Nidalee in lane with Xin. Must have been a Riot employee.


That must be why the Nidalee nerfs Riot hinted at were nowhere to be found this patch...
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
April 12 2011 13:33 GMT
#12095
I think they stated they'd make her less silly with her heal in lane, while giving better teamfight presence. Will be a while before we see her touched, imo.
So zen.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 12 2011 13:35 GMT
#12096
sigh...
anyone know the new version of the konami code to get by the server problem?
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
April 12 2011 13:46 GMT
#12097
left right left right down down up up 3 4
aka Sowelulol
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 13:51:20
April 12 2011 13:50 GMT
#12098
On April 12 2011 22:46 jtbem wrote:
left right left right down down up up 3 4

Thx :3
edit: Oh wait, according to the riot stream the server is down o.o
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
April 12 2011 13:55 GMT
#12099
ok, according to Udyr (just said this on the riot stream):
we are probably going to release the new patcher in a couple of weeks, and the new patcher will be a huge step towards the replay system.
washed
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 14:56:05
April 12 2011 14:04 GMT
#12100
So I just picked this game up again and quick question. How is Viegar now a days? Also it seems like Panth was messed with even more? very sad :[

Edit: is the season over? the game only offers regular games and not the option of ranked games anymore.
Never Knows Best.
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