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rewtamus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States327 Posts
April 12 2011 02:13 GMT
#12061
R.I.P. Singed
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 12 2011 02:13 GMT
#12062
I really like the BF sword change btw~ 1850 such a chunky number to farm.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
April 12 2011 02:30 GMT
#12063
--- Nuked ---
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
April 12 2011 02:36 GMT
#12064
Am I reading this right?

Heart of Gold

* Recipe Changed: Ruby Crystal + 350 Gold
* Now gives: +250 Health +5 Gold per 5


Looks pretty "powerful" to me... pity for Randuin's nerf tho, but it should be still good... if you can land the slow on everyone. Or I don't know... I'm also kinda bummed about the Mundo nerf, don't think he really deserved it
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
April 12 2011 02:37 GMT
#12065
I wish they at least kept Randuin's armor -_-
Stuck.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 12 2011 02:43 GMT
#12066
On April 12 2011 11:36 Nikon wrote:
Am I reading this right?

Show nested quote +
Heart of Gold

* Recipe Changed: Ruby Crystal + 350 Gold
* Now gives: +250 Health +5 Gold per 5


Looks pretty "powerful" to me... pity for Randuin's nerf tho, but it should be still good... if you can land the slow on everyone. Or I don't know... I'm also kinda bummed about the Mundo nerf, don't think he really deserved it


Apparently it's a typo.

Good catch - thanks!

This is a type too - Gold/10 is unchanged.

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=7789282#post7789282
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 12 2011 02:56 GMT
#12067
so I tried to try the triforce into tank nid build somebody recommended earlier, didn't even get to finish triforce we rolled them so hard but not building ap felt really weak.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 03:25:24
April 12 2011 03:14 GMT
#12068
Also, I think we should keep the cost efficiency spreadsheet from a while back updated as much as possible. You just open it up and edit the fields and it has formula already added to calculate the cost efficiency and such.

I copy pasted the old one and made it publicly editable here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AhhAugu1Z2aPdDBZc1oxYk9NckNqQ053RzhzY2ZHdkE&hl=en&authkey=CJ37vt8P.

I have no idea how to use google docs, but hoping to add CDR calculation since you can do that with kindlegem now.

"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 12 2011 03:34 GMT
#12069
At this point they should just add an extra Chain Vest to the Randuin's recipe and make it give 100 Armor again.... -_-
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 12 2011 04:34 GMT
#12070
Spreadsheet should be updated to pretty much post-patch info. Assumed bloodthirster and cleaver didn't take a hit to their ad despite having their costs lowered 200 (...)
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
April 12 2011 04:35 GMT
#12071
What I REALLY don't understand is why Riot thinks Xin Zhao is nerf-worthy? Is Xin really overpowered? Better question - who, at any level of this game, thinks that Xin Zhao is better than Irelia or Jarman? How do they go nerf-less while Xin Zhao gets hit?
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
April 12 2011 04:39 GMT
#12072
[image loading]


i might need to buy riot points
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 12 2011 05:14 GMT
#12073
hahaha wost patch in a while what a shitstorm.


singed gonna be on permaban status though
Brees on in
LancerJ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States160 Posts
April 12 2011 06:00 GMT
#12074
New HoG is quite bad.

old stats:
Ruby Crystal - 180hp 475g
Cloth Armor - 18armor 300g
+200g
HoG - 200hp 27armor 975g (977g worth of health/armor + 5g per 10s)

new stats:
Ruby Crystal - 180hp 475g
+350g
HoG - 250hp 825g (660g worth of health + 5g per 10s, takes 5m30s just to break even)

Still not as bad as Kage's but HoG is no longer worth building unless you're building it into Randuin's much later, but Randuin's isn't very good even when compared to post-nerf Sunfire.

Sunfire - 45armor 450health 2610g
Randuin's - 55armor 350health 5%cdr 2775g (5% cdr costs 160g based on Kindlegem)

With the recent nerfs to Warden's Mail the components of Randuin's are in a very bad spot.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 12 2011 06:10 GMT
#12075
Randuin's definitely needs a buff from here on out. As it was before, it was pretty much just balanced around the fact that HoG is amazing, so the Warden's Mail-based effects could afford to be shitty. Now that HoG is shit too, I think I'll be skipping Randuin's in favor of other items.
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nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
April 12 2011 06:20 GMT
#12076
wow IE buff is pretty crazy
cool beans
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 12 2011 06:23 GMT
#12077
they wanted to make sure lee sin never gets played so it's like they never released the blind monk anyways.
sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 06:27:41
April 12 2011 06:23 GMT
#12078
On April 12 2011 15:00 LancerJ wrote:
New HoG is quite bad.

old stats:
Ruby Crystal - 180hp 475g
Cloth Armor - 18armor 300g
+200g
HoG - 200hp 27armor 975g (977g worth of health/armor + 5g per 10s)

new stats:
Ruby Crystal - 180hp 475g
+350g
HoG - 250hp 825g (660g worth of health + 5g per 10s, takes 5m30s just to break even)

Still not as bad as Kage's but HoG is no longer worth building unless you're building it into Randuin's much later, but Randuin's isn't very good even when compared to post-nerf Sunfire.

Sunfire - 45armor 450health 2610g
Randuin's - 55armor 350health 5%cdr 2775g (5% cdr costs 160g based on Kindlegem)

With the recent nerfs to Warden's Mail the components of Randuin's are in a very bad spot.


New HoG is 5g/5s - typo on patch notes*

well then new HoG sux.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
April 12 2011 06:25 GMT
#12079
On April 12 2011 15:23 sixduck wrote:
New HoG is 5g/5s

That was a typo: http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/1453/?p=2
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 07:15:56
April 12 2011 07:13 GMT
#12080
LOL WHAT?

The changes to Xin straight kill him and he wasn't OP in the first place. They first nerfed Q to make it non-viable, well, okay, Xin players started to max E, now they nerf the CD on E (to make it not worth leveling as well) AND reduce the duration on W so that cooldown chaining that made Xin unique doesn't exist anymore. As if it wasn't enough, let's reduce the duration on his ultimate so that he dies even faster, and Xin was never the king of tankiness with his ghostblade first build. Oh and yeah, his cloth armor now upgrades into nothing since neither Wriggles nor HoG work anymore. What skills should I level now? Max W first or what?

It seems that they are hinting at the new Xin Zhao play style: full armor pen page, only build armor pen items, take flash. When a fight starts, flash into the middle of the enemy team, ult and die.

Seriously, this is the most retarded patch in the history of LoL, fuck it.

EDIT: Oh I get it now. Yesterday I raped some Nidalee in lane with Xin. Must have been a Riot employee.
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