EPTBasically she is a niche hybrid damage source that gets shat on by Renekton et al. Fortunately terrain spells like Jarvan ult mean nothing for her.
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
Basically she is a niche hybrid damage source that gets shat on by Renekton et al. Fortunately terrain spells like Jarvan ult mean nothing for her. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
hope they are joking | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On April 01 2011 10:33 Brees wrote: LOL UPGRADED TO MACS hope they are joking I'm sure he feels the same way about the "upgrade" | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On April 01 2011 10:27 Scipaeus121212 wrote: Hey guys, with the tanky dps dominating the scene right now, do you think kog could become viable again? Started playing him and he is incredibly cute, but I want to know if he is gonna be just an instalock in inhouses when Im firstpick, or if he might actually be good. Kog is good vs tanks, not taky dps. Tanky dps generally have ways to get at kog and destroy him with their high damage. Tanks don't have as much damage and if he stands in the back often tanks can't get to him as easily. Since he's so squishy and has no escapes, he'll insta die to tanky dps like xin, jarvan, irelia, renekton. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
edit: lol. its in the ESL thread. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
If the tanky DPS doesn't have hard CC I think Kog might be able to just out-DPS them in some cases if they initiate. The other day a mundo charged at me and he died first. I dunno, maybe if he leveled E instead of Q, maybe if I didn't have creep support, maybe it's cause it was mundo and not olaf or xin. That's about the only example I can give that has any meaning whatsoever, I'm not convinced that other tanky DPS I've fought as Kog were ever doing anything right, one time I had Xin and Olaf. As an aside though, I feel like Tryndamere counters Kog hard. You might even DPS him down first but he has a gap closer and a I-don't-die button and you have a passive which he just spins away from. Made me so sad. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23447 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On April 01 2011 10:48 Juicyfruit wrote: To be honest I think with proper positioning Kog can actually deal with tanky DPS. His slow is pretty good. depends if you got support or not kog janna etc alls good i just think the problem with kog is that he's so freaking squishy. if you got a trynd/akali tanky dps on him he's just done if summoners are down. execution has to be so perfect when you use kog it's unreasonable. btw what's everyones build for shaco i'm just building him reactively at this point wriggles -> malady -> bloodrazer or wiggle yoomu tank. farm vs gank on shaco which one do you take? O BTW what is your mastery for shaco? 19-0-11? | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
(this is not the joke one Riot posted a few days ago) | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On April 01 2011 13:04 shawster wrote: depends if you got support or not kog janna etc alls good btw what's everyones build for shaco i'm just building him reactively at this point wriggles -> malady -> bloodrazer or wiggle yoomu tank. farm vs gank on shaco which one do you take? I think part of the problem is people do this stupid thing called using ghost/flash on kogmaw. I have zero experience but I think it's bad. I think kogmaws might do a lot better in today's meta by taking flash/exhaust. Here's why ghost is kind of pointless: tanky DPS jumps on you, hits you with red buff, triforce proc or whatever other spammable slow they all have. You ghost. He ghosts. He's still faster and can keep applying the slow on you. He kills you. Your ghost basically did nothing except peel both of you away from the rest of your team, which is exactly what he wanted anyways. Or say you're up against akali. Ghost is completely useless. Exhaust might gimp her just long enough for your team + you to kill her before she kills you. Kogmaw really doesn't kite well beyond his E, which is a really good slow but isn't fulproof. However, he has great range so he should just aim to position himself to be fairly difficult to dive, and then just stand his ground with the help of his team, and focus down the people diving for him with the help of his team. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Another melee champ who is going to be absolutely impossible to kick out of lane and renders ranged DPS useless. And just in case he seems too squishy early on before he can rush HoG/Negatrons with a Ghostblade like EVERY OTHER CHAMPION, let's give him a shield and lifesteal. Honestly the whole tanky DPS thing wasn't bothering me that much until this point. It's getting ridiculous already. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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