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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
on another note, i really dig pikachu for FFAs in brawl. i think he has a nice skill set for KSing and getting people off your ass or running away. random downBs to KS = trololol. i also scared away most people in my dorm from 1v1ing me in melee and im not even close to competitive caliber. but FFAs are always fun. i just keep rotating chars so im not always 4stocking them and I troll alot. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On February 05 2011 06:42 Phrost wrote: Roy was removed because he was the same fucking character as marth. Ike has as significantly different move set and damage/speed Wat. They shoulda removed marth then. Roy was 100x cooler cuz his b had flames. I will now shut up about ssb. | ||
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
On February 05 2011 05:32 Two_DoWn wrote: Did anyone get skins? I just checked and I didnt get anything.  I randomly have the minuteman gangplank skin, so i can confirm that other thread is not a troll thread. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
mewtwo's moveset is so fun, but hes awful. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
guitarasaurus: taric 16.5 base armor + 18 cloth armor + 10 shatter + 8.19 reds + 6.3 blues +12.69 yellows + 12.78 quints guitarasaurus: 84.46 starting armor guitarasaurus: you know what guitarasaurus: with new starting items guitarasaurus: full armorpage taric + cloth + 5 pots guitarasaurus: seems like a legit countercarry lane 84.46 armor is what, 45.78% damage reduction? if the carry is running ArPen reds for 13 arpen, you'd still have 42.34% damage reduction. level 1 ashe would hit for 28.656 damage, 57.3 on her first crit. your base heal on imbue is 84 to self. not to mention you've got 1000 HP in the form of pots. what's going to keep you from completely zoning ashe besides jungle presence? farm up some AP and be a healing machine for your team midgame, roll them at 20 minutes while their carry has 3 doran's blades and boots 1. ofc you could do this with many champs i suppose. nasus with 70 something armor could farm all day freely and mb have more of an impact, not sure. what do you guys think o wow i didn't even include 6 from masteries cause i'm dumb. just make his armor 90.46 and ashe's damage goes down to like 27 and 54 crit derp | ||
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
On February 05 2011 07:09 gtrsrs wrote: okay i was doing some theorycrafting in LP based on what southlight said in the old thread guitarasaurus: taric 16.5 base armor + 18 cloth armor + 10 shatter + 8.19 reds + 6.3 blues +12.69 yellows + 12.78 quints guitarasaurus: 84.46 starting armor guitarasaurus: you know what guitarasaurus: with new starting items guitarasaurus: full armorpage taric + cloth + 5 pots guitarasaurus: seems like a legit countercarry lane 84.46 armor is what, 45.78% damage reduction? if the carry is running ArPen reds for 13 arpen, you'd still have 42.34% damage reduction. level 1 ashe would hit for 28.656 damage, 57.3 on her first crit. your base heal on imbue is 84 to self. not to mention you've got 1000 HP in the form of pots. what's going to keep you from completely zoning ashe besides jungle presence? farm up some AP and be a healing machine for your team midgame, roll them at 20 minutes while their carry has 3 doran's blades and boots 1. ofc you could do this with many champs i suppose. nasus with 70 something armor could farm all day freely and mb have more of an impact, not sure. what do you guys think With ZERO mana regen you're not going to be able to spam your heal for too long before you need to B or your potions run out, since ashe/insert other carry, outranges you. And it's not like you're going to be stunning them or using ANY of your other abilities, since you need it for heal. Horrible run setup IMO, almost as bad as going full out AP runes | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
auto attack restores mana equal to 7.5% damage dealt, so to a melee creep (what do they have, 13 armor? idr) you'd do 51.3 damage and get back 3.84 mana EDIT: also forgot meditation mastery etc, you could even take clarity *LOL* heal cost 80 mana, shatter cost 50 mana, stun cost 95 mana it takes ashe 4 attacks to do the damage that 1 heal would negate, she'll be taking creep aggro and not last hitting if she does this don't want to ass with all the math cause AS and CDs aren't listed on the LoL website and i'm not 100% sure on stuff like creep armor and whatnot if ashe is doing enough damage to burn through 1000 HP worth of potions at only 25 damage per hit, not to mention your base HP regen (1.42/s), and your base HP (468) she's attacking you more than 60 times. good chance you'd be able to get a stun shatter combo off a couple times in there i dunno this is all theorycrafting i just remember southlight bringing it up and since you can't take a pot with doran's any more i thought it might be more applicable | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
We were able to burst through him if there were 2-3 of us wailing on only him for the first little while, but then his team had caught up in items and such and they absolutely WRECKED us. He stacked Archangel's Staves after the laning phase ended....it was just ridiculous. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
it rapes certain carries, hard. I had a Taric solo vs. my pantheon once and i felt completely helpless. On February 05 2011 06:45 gtrsrs wrote: wait pikachu was considered broken in 64? it's been forever since i played but i thought fox/kirby were the broken ones... pikachu was like next after them but i didn't realize he was the best We've known Pikachu was #1 in 64 for at least 6 or 7 years now, probably more. On February 05 2011 06:54 dnastyx wrote: Pikachu is incredibly broken in 64. Retarded moveset, retarded hitboxes, retarded combo potential, retarded priority, retarded everything. Kirby also contender for top tier, Fox is okay but not amazing. you forgot that he's also the only character in the entire game who can escape combos or recover vs. proper edgeguarding because his up B is so strong. for whatever it's worth, the general consensus on 64 tier list is Pika ----- Fox/Kirby ------- Falcon/Mario ------- Yoshi ------- Luigi/Ness/DK/Jiggs ------- Link/Samus | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
45 AP lvl 1 op | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On February 05 2011 07:45 Mogwai wrote: Re: Taric stuff it rapes certain carries, hard. I had a Taric solo vs. my pantheon once and i felt completely helpless. We've known Pikachu was #1 in 64 for at least 6 or 7 years now, probably more. you forgot that he's also the only character in the entire game who can escape combos or recover vs. proper edgeguarding because his up B is so strong. for whatever it's worth, the general consensus on 64 tier list is Pika ----- Fox/Kirby ------- Falcon/Mario ------- Yoshi ------- Luigi/Ness/DK/Jiggs ------- Link/Samus I'm surprised Mario's so high, to be honest. Is it just because of his smashes? They're amazing finishers on most chars when they get above like 80% and he's got a couple of good combos/initiations, but I'd still put Yoshi over him... or at like... I don't feel he belongs in Falcon tier lol. | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On February 05 2011 06:02 Mogwai wrote: laser can't legitimately combo into another aerial. best you can do is to delay a Falco laser long enough that it combos into a shine right when you land. Also, I'm not sure if taunt counts as a hit in a combo unless you pull off the super taunt on Corneria so that Peppy continues your combo with the arwing (though they'd be out of hitstun by the time he got there so it still wouldn't really be a combo). dair -> utilt -> shine (waveland on platform) -> shine -> firebird is a much more likely suspect of a 5MASHCOMBO that I'd do[/MeleeNerdRant] Oh dear lord. I knew I'd bait you but I had no idea I'd derail general discussion into a melee discussion. I got some Project M going down @ work later today... desperately trying to relive the awesomeness that was Melee. Hypothetically speaking, if melee was remade on PC, had more characters, and had excellent netcode, how many of you would play it? Anyway, on the topic of LoL: I get some really freaky things happening when I play characters that have some sort of displacement ability. For example: Renekton and Nidalee. If I Slice/Pounce respectively, whilst mashing Q or E respectively, i'll get weird stuff happening. The animation of Q/E seems to play as I move through things. Does anyone else have this? It doesn't seem to happen on other people's computers. The machine it happens on uses a Das Keyboard, so maybe there's some weirdness happening with quick input? | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
Joug/Chrispy/Spud/Numbers/Smash/Yiruru/whoever, let's get on this. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
On February 05 2011 09:34 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/news/148315 Joug/Chrispy/Spud/Numbers/Smash/Yiruru/whoever, let's get on this. loco/regi/feed/saint/oddone/chaox,see u at finals~ | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
average 1500 elo | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
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