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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
for sion,akali,nidalee,shen i don't play these champs often but i've gone against the fucknoobs who play these champs at a fucknoob level so i ask them stuff,i steal their runebooks and i make mental notes when these fucknoobs do something cool with the said champs and i turn them into mini guides and put my name on them so yea go check out the threads for sion akali nidalee and shen MORE INC | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
It'll be great to hear from a high-elo player imo | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
She's gonna get nerfed into the ground. | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
TROLL MODE INITIATED! Slow! Shield! Heal! More power as you think you're killing me! Problem Summoners? | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Singed Karma Teemo Nidalee Troll Amirite? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On February 01 2011 21:12 locodoco wrote: i just made a series of mini-guides for sion,akali,nidalee,shen i don't play these champs often but i've gone against the fucknoobs who play these champs at a fucknoob level so i ask them stuff,i steal their runebooks and i make mental notes when these fucknoobs do something cool with the said champs and i turn them into mini guides and put my name on them so yea go check out the threads for sion akali nidalee and shen MORE INC yr shen guide was essentially the exact same as mine except for masteries and yellow runes you could have saved a lot of time | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
On February 01 2011 23:56 phyvo wrote: Troll running away team is now Singed Karma Teemo Nidalee Troll Amirite? Zil > Karma. Tickticktickticktick is the sound assholes make in their natural environment. | ||
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Ruken
United States858 Posts
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On February 01 2011 12:39 Tooplark wrote: Best game mode ARAZ Thank you vizniz for introducing me to it. ![[image loading]](http://i54.tinypic.com/x2tiit.jpg) Its so bad but so addicting T_T | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
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Odds
Canada1188 Posts
On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: You should stop taking every criticism as a personal insult to your skill. This is why I'm taking some time (probably a week or two) off. I know I've been taking things too personally, and it's not healthy. I've been tanking my elo because I haven't been dealing well with stress from school, and it's taking its toll on my play. I haven't been able to play as well as I used to (which wasn't that great to begin with), and it's extremely frustrating to watch myself make stupid mistakes over and over again, but be too depressed/lethargic to be able to deal with them. I've been taking the game, and all the insults I've been getting as a result of my poorer play, much too seriously. So, I apologize for offending you in the past, and I apologize for this post, because it will probably offend you as well. You seem to still be under the impression that I was somehow mad/disappointed that we lost the game last night. As I said before, this is not the case. I was mad at: -Myself for all of the above, and for not being able to carry properly -You, for continually harassing me every single time I made a judgment call of any kind. I mean no offense by this, but you have been playing LoL and similar games for probably 1/10th the time that I have; and you've been playing at a much lower level competitively, against much more forgiving opponents. By this I don't mean that hurp durp I'm always right, but I am significantly more likely to be well-informed about any given aspect of game knowledge. When you continually challenge every suggestion/assertion that I make, it's not an insult to my play (which is understandable, because I'm bad), but to my intelligence. You are saying that, despite my relatively vast quantities of experience, you know far much more about the game than me. I must be an extremely slow learner for you to be so much better than me in such a short period of time. Even worse, you refuse to accept any rational explanation I ever give you. So, what else can I do but just give up and say that you have no game sense? It's not an insult and I say it with no malice: it's just truth; and when we're in game, I don't have time to argue with you. So, in this specific case: On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: I did not like that as the carry, you announced to the team the game was hopeless before anyone else said anything. The game was over. Plain and simple. It was largely my fault, as after Karth got a kill with his ulti he came back to the lane with extremely fast sorc boots and proceeded to rape me as a result. Everyone else also continued to feed him and nasus and continued to kill only the support heroes on the enemy team. I was doing no damage because it was impossible to farm with a fed karthus forever hugging my nuts and my whole team also hugging me and taking my creeps. Nobody else was able to deal with their carries either, and they were winning every fight. We were down 2 towers and not winning any fights by the time it was over. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: It is demoralizing and irresponsible. No, it's just an accurate assessment of the situation. If our team was Chauster, BFjiji, Regi, Loco, and Eski instead of you, me, and a fistful of other TL scrubs- the game was absolutely winnable. However, our team (including, it should be noted, myself) was continually spectacularly failing in every single fight and making millions of other mistakes. Given that we were not great players, we were falling further and further behind, and the game quickly became unwinnable. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: I did not think the game was over because the opposing team had no AD damage except for Nasus and none of our inner towers were down. I suspect that you are probably among the crowd that wildly underestimates melee AD DPS- which is pretty understandable given how long ranged carries were OP for. But basically, melee carries tend to kill towers even faster than ranged ones- largely because most of them don't itemize for crit. Nasus in particular kills towers faster than (if I'm not horribly mistaken- and I really don't think I am) any other hero in the game by a pretty wide margin. You don't need more than 1 AD damaging hero on a team, particularly if the AD that is on the team is fed, as the Nasus was in this case. He could pick whoever on our team he would like to kill, SS them twice, and receive a kill. We hadn't lost inner towers, but we had lost 2 more outer towers than the enemy team, and we weren't able to gain any momentum to equalize the game. We were losing every fight- and even when we 'won' in terms of numbers of kills, we were all low HP and had to run back while a few of the enemies remained on full HP and were able to freely push while we were healing. The biggest problems were: -Picks. Karthushard counters both Ezreal and Teemo (our AP and AD carries), and was able to single-handedly shut us both down. Neither of us could do any damage. Ezreal loses to Karth in the lane (badly) because Ezreal needs to hit his skillshot to win. Unfortunately, when he positions to hit his Q, it is extremely easy for Karthus to return fire and do far more damage over a couple hits- handily winning the exchange. This is only exacerbated when he hits R and gets a free kill in another lane. Ezreal ordinarily does extremely well against Karth in teamfights, but by that point he was too fed for me to do much. Teemo has a similar problem against Karth. He needs to get close to do his damage, and is completely shut down when he takes damage of any kind. Getting close to Pdiz's karth (particularly when fed) as Teemo is just suicide. Sort of snowballing out of this was the Nasus. As with many heroes, in order to beat Nasus, you must shut him out early game. When you have a 6-1 Karth flying down bot every couple minutes, it's sort of hard to manage that without getting repeatedly bumfucked. -Players. I'm not as good as Pdiz. Our Teemo was certainly not as good as Reep. Seriously, trufax. -Targeting the support/tanks instead of the actual damage, and our tanks not being able to (by virtue of the relative lack of farm) peel the enemy tanks and damage off of our carries. We were not going to win. I hope I've explained clearly. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: If you disagree you can perhaps do so without underlining how much better you are than everyone else and how little game sense I have. Most importantly as carry if you give up before anyone else you're basically screwing the entire team over. I hope you understand why that was frustrating for me to see. And you call me condescending. Christ. 1. It's a lot easier to just analyze the game and call it when it's clearly over, than it is to try to explain that whole page I just typed out to a team that hates you and won't listen to a goddamn word you say. 2. At no point during the game did I say that I was better than everyone else (or even anyone else) on the team. You can have a basic sense of how the game flows (I do) despite being bad at it (I am). 3. It's frustrating for you? Step back for a minute. Look at this from my perspective: - Get invited to a game - Play your best, but get outpicked and outplayed by enemy team - the game is clearly lost, for reasons that are readily apparent to you - You call it, hoping to go to sleep and make it to class in time tomorrow - Whole team of significantly less experienced players calls you a worthless idiot, and act like condescending pricks despite being completely ignorant of gameflow - Get blamed for 100% of loss, get called all sorts of names just for being able to tell when the game is finished. Get over yourself. Seriously. Go play in 800 elo and watch your entire team make blatant mistakes all game, get blamed for their mistakes, and get reported after game for 'trolling' because you tried to help them out, then come back and tell me it's not frustrating. 4. It's not 'screwing the team over' when the game is already lost. The team was already 'screwed over'. There was literally nothing I could do to make a loss more likely: it was already guaranteed given the conditions of the game. If there was still a fighting chance, I would very much agree with you: one person giving up guarantees the loss, perhaps unfairly, for his team. This is why, regardless of what I say about our current situation, while we are playing I always try my very hardest to win. If the game is over and I say so, and my team wants to keep playing- I keep playing my hardest just on principle. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: It seems every time we have an argument you have no other response than to become extremely passive aggressive and start sarcastically blaming yourself for everything. You already blame me for everything, so I'm simply agreeing with you. It's easier than debating the point, because, as I've already noted, logic persistently fails to sway you. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: I hope you can actually take responsibility one of these days instead of constantly blaming others, and also be less of an emo martyr every time you lose. Do you think I would be mad if I didn't blame myself for every loss? It is the most infuriating thing in existence to watch my terrible teammates throw an easy game away, and then be unable to carry said teammates against equally stupid opponents because I'm just not good enough right now. Unfortunately, I consistently get blamed for 100% of the loss, and it never has anything to do with any of my teammates. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: Like our other teammate said, you have an ego that is disproportionate to your skill level. There is a difference between occasionally being factually correct, and having this alleged enormous ego. If I am the best player on a team, I have to make judgment calls for the good of the team. Sometimes they will be wrong, but they are more likely to be right than those of anybody else of the team. If there are better players on the team, I will happily defer to their opinions for precisely the same reason. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: I imagine your stress comes from taking out every loss on your teammates instead of yourself, and basically handling anything negative in the worst manner possible. Please, tell me more about myself, Internet Psychologist. You do indeed know more about me than anyone. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: I really do hope you can cheer up. So do I. I'm considering starting medication again, because this is getting ridiculous. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: I also hope you can stop flipping out every time I question your judgment I also hope that you can stop calling me an idiot every time I try to share what little knowledge I have. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: you seriously need to handle disagreements better No argument there. On February 01 2011 19:07 zulu_nation8 wrote: and stop thinking so highly of yourself so that you won't even take the time to explain anything. See wall of text. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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Aukai
United States1183 Posts
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Odds
Canada1188 Posts
On February 02 2011 03:25 Caller wrote: somebody exploded all over the general discussion thread again character flaw of mine | ||
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On the subject being discussed: someone saying "gg" or "this game is over" before giving any kind of constructive criticism is effectively saying "I have no advice to offer my team on the mistakes they make because they are incapable of improving their play mid-game, so I give up." It's the combination put-down and holier-than-thou attitude that brings out rage in others, even if that was not your intent. Maybe it's true, and some games are certainly over before mid-game, but don't be surprised when four people who are already struggling to play interpret comments like that in the worst way. | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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Aukai
United States1183 Posts
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
On February 02 2011 02:48 Niton wrote: Zil > Karma. Tickticktickticktick is the sound assholes make in their natural environment. That's true, but Karma's speed buff is AoE and heal + shield > zil ult for the purposes of your team running away. Maybe replace Nid with Karma, iunno, but Nid can be so trollface as it is when she's pushing your turrets and escaping your team anyways. | ||
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Odds
Canada1188 Posts
On February 02 2011 03:43 mrgerry wrote: At lower levels of play there is always hope. The #1 strat v bads is group as 5 and hope to pick off facecheckers works like a charm. Pdiz karthus = lower levels of play :p | ||
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