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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 16 2010 19:12 GMT
#2361
On December 17 2010 03:55 Mogwai wrote:
he's still a regular ban here too *eye roll*

but yea, the ult particle effect is still fucked up at times.


I happened to be a team captain last night and decided not to ban pantheon. I quickly regretted it. Pantheon is still a major pain in the ass with his ultimate and there are way too many people (at about 1400 ELO anyway) who don't know how to lane against him and give up first blood faster than a teenage girl would give up her virginity to Justin Bieber. My team still won, but it looked ugly at first.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 16 2010 19:14 GMT
#2362
On December 17 2010 04:09 r33k wrote:
I like how people don't just hardcounterhim with flashcleanse janna. I really, really hate playing her but I'm thinking about buying her and using the kookey build just to farm some rating.


I'm thinking that Janna is going to be a regular ban fairly soon. She's just too much of a pain in the ass with all her CC, especially since I love playing melee characters.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 19:52:54
December 16 2010 19:51 GMT
#2363
She *should* have been a regular ban since 2 patches ago, mostly because of how hard she counters some heroes and how hard it hurts hardcarries to not have her supporting them.

And the best way to counter your fear of pantheon is to start pronouncing it panty-on, he becomes laughable in no time.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 16 2010 20:03 GMT
#2364
alternately buy armor and/or save disables for when you goes after your carry.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 16 2010 20:18 GMT
#2365
On December 17 2010 04:12 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 03:55 Mogwai wrote:
he's still a regular ban here too *eye roll*

but yea, the ult particle effect is still fucked up at times.


I happened to be a team captain last night and decided not to ban pantheon. I quickly regretted it. Pantheon is still a major pain in the ass with his ultimate and there are way too many people (at about 1400 ELO anyway) who don't know how to lane against him and give up first blood faster than a teenage girl would give up her virginity to Justin Bieber. My team still won, but it looked ugly at first.


Personally I love laning vs panth as veigar. Build glacial shroud and he hits me like a wet noodle and guess what, panth, YOUR SHIELD DON'T BLOCK MY Q BRO.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 16 2010 20:22 GMT
#2366
On December 17 2010 05:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 04:12 xDaunt wrote:
On December 17 2010 03:55 Mogwai wrote:
he's still a regular ban here too *eye roll*

but yea, the ult particle effect is still fucked up at times.


I happened to be a team captain last night and decided not to ban pantheon. I quickly regretted it. Pantheon is still a major pain in the ass with his ultimate and there are way too many people (at about 1400 ELO anyway) who don't know how to lane against him and give up first blood faster than a teenage girl would give up her virginity to Justin Bieber. My team still won, but it looked ugly at first.


Personally I love laning vs panth as veigar. Build glacial shroud and he hits me like a wet noodle and guess what, panth, YOUR SHIELD DON'T BLOCK MY Q BRO.

Veigar is one of Pantheon's easiest matchups. You can't towerdive him but you can easily deny him from farming.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 16 2010 20:24 GMT
#2367
On December 17 2010 05:03 Mogwai wrote:
alternately buy armor and/or save disables for when you goes after your carry.

I only play characters immune to pantheon by default sorry.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 20:33:54
December 16 2010 20:32 GMT
#2368
why did they have to remove the dodge from phantom dancer, i used to stack 2 of those on janna get boots of swiftness, put 2 blood seekers and a Frozen Mallet and just troll along as 6000 mph an hour making sure i have cleanse and ghost. I don't know how to properly play anyone lol. on a side note leveling is taking forever.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 16 2010 20:32 GMT
#2369
On December 17 2010 05:22 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2010 05:18 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 17 2010 04:12 xDaunt wrote:
On December 17 2010 03:55 Mogwai wrote:
he's still a regular ban here too *eye roll*

but yea, the ult particle effect is still fucked up at times.


I happened to be a team captain last night and decided not to ban pantheon. I quickly regretted it. Pantheon is still a major pain in the ass with his ultimate and there are way too many people (at about 1400 ELO anyway) who don't know how to lane against him and give up first blood faster than a teenage girl would give up her virginity to Justin Bieber. My team still won, but it looked ugly at first.


Personally I love laning vs panth as veigar. Build glacial shroud and he hits me like a wet noodle and guess what, panth, YOUR SHIELD DON'T BLOCK MY Q BRO.

Veigar is one of Pantheon's easiest matchups. You can't towerdive him but you can easily deny him from farming.


I probably just never went against a competent panth, it's just from my experience so far as I've been doing it a LOT lately since I get panth in at least 75% of my games. Even seen people do standard GB, LW + BT + survivability builds and not kill me laning + allow me to outfarm them so.... :/
You're a panth main and a wayyy better player than I am though so you'd probably destroy me if I did it.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 20:41:59
December 16 2010 20:33 GMT
#2370
I finally reached 1700 today. The important thing isn't the 1700 rating, but the games it took to get to 1700 and the things I have learned up to that point. Up until 1650 I'd say was through my own effort, my own skills. The last 50 points, I feel I don't deserve because of duo que. The feeling isn't as satisfying, but all the games I have played have taught me a lot. I'd like to thank SpudBoy for duo queing with me through the last stretch and being really good. I'd also like to thank Chrispy for graciously handing the last win needed to get to 1700. I'll close this by saying that I respect SpudBoy and Chrispy's skills, and I learned a lot playing with/against them.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
December 16 2010 20:57 GMT
#2371
Played a game last night where a solo Panth top fed a solo Kassadin. I don't understand how.

At 23 minutes he had RoA/Boots/Archangels.
FML.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 16 2010 21:01 GMT
#2372
On December 17 2010 05:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
Played a game last night where a solo Panth top fed a solo Kassadin. I don't understand how.

At 23 minutes he had RoA/Boots/Archangels.
FML.


That's the worst part about pantheon. For every good pantheon player, there are at least 2 really shitty ones that don't know what they are doing (as an aside, I don't really understand how you can be bad at pantheon, he seems very self-explanatory as far as champs go). Unsurprisingly, the shitty pantheons always end up my team (like one who was 3-8-x about 20 minutes into the game yet still got a sword of the occult....thank god I was rammus that game) whereas the good pantheons feed upon the retards on my team constantly.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 16 2010 21:37 GMT
#2373
On December 17 2010 05:33 0123456789 wrote:
I finally reached 1700 today. The important thing isn't the 1700 rating, but the games it took to get to 1700 and the things I have learned up to that point. Up until 1650 I'd say was through my own effort, my own skills. The last 50 points, I feel I don't deserve because of duo que. The feeling isn't as satisfying, but all the games I have played have taught me a lot. I'd like to thank SpudBoy for duo queing with me through the last stretch and being really good. I'd also like to thank Chrispy for graciously handing the last win needed to get to 1700. I'll close this by saying that I respect SpudBoy and Chrispy's skills, and I learned a lot playing with/against them.


I'd also like to thank my parents for never giving up on me.

Grandma I know you're watching over me up there. Also I thank God for being with me at all times.

Hey don't thank me for that last win thank that fucking Annie.
Retvrn to Forvms
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
December 16 2010 21:42 GMT
#2374
I just figured I'd ask here. I'm not quite sure hwot o build Twitch anymore, since I counted on the AS on his Q and R, but since his ulti no longer give any AS I'm unsure what to do. I've been trying BF > boots > IE > PD a few games, and it seems to work alright. Just wondering if there's any more stable build out there I might have overlooked.

I still love Twitch even though his ulti is a lil worse than before <3
Happiest man on earth
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 16 2010 21:43 GMT
#2375
I'm trying to buy a cheap non late game carry that can help the team most. Right now the only champions I have are all squishy carries that don't really help the team comp, tris, ashe, sivir, yi, and the only spellcaster i have is leblanc who I'm awful with. Right now the 450 IP champions are nunu, soraka, kayle, 1300 ones are amumu, eve, mundo, singed, zilean, tf, annie, fiddle, poppy, veigar, nasus, janna, trynd, sion, ryze, alistar. I've about 2000 IP, which combination of champions should I get that would help whatever team comp the most? Thanks
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 22:34:24
December 16 2010 21:52 GMT
#2376
Wow, I think the Riot servers just exploded. I just got disconnected from a game and server status is "Unavailable" now. Game just started, and it was ranked too... Their site isn't working either. Guess that this is a good time to go to bed.

Edit: I have no idea what happened, but I managed to reconnect after about 32 min. Almost caught up to the least farmed person on our team by the time our nexus died. No leaver mark. That was pretty weird.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
December 16 2010 22:31 GMT
#2377
yea just didnt ban panth at 1700 elo, im denying him mid then he just ults my other lanes

GG ends up 16-1 with 20 stack soto.

now i remember why panth is banned, feeds off fucking bads
Brees on in
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 16 2010 23:20 GMT
#2378
On December 17 2010 05:33 0123456789 wrote:
I finally reached 1700 today. The important thing isn't the 1700 rating, but the games it took to get to 1700 and the things I have learned up to that point. Up until 1650 I'd say was through my own effort, my own skills. The last 50 points, I feel I don't deserve because of duo que. The feeling isn't as satisfying, but all the games I have played have taught me a lot. I'd like to thank SpudBoy for duo queing with me through the last stretch and being really good. I'd also like to thank Chrispy for graciously handing the last win needed to get to 1700. I'll close this by saying that I respect SpudBoy and Chrispy's skills, and I learned a lot playing with/against them.

Gratz, I remember how I felt when I first got a good elo (was 1600 at the time) but now I'm back to being terrible.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 17 2010 00:05 GMT
#2379
On December 17 2010 07:31 Brees wrote:
yea just didnt ban panth at 1700 elo, im denying him mid then he just ults my other lanes

GG ends up 16-1 with 20 stack soto.

now i remember why panth is banned, feeds off fucking bads


panth

singed

garen (formerly)

these are great for 1 mans because they are all heroes that eat people who make a mistake and get sick when fed.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 17 2010 00:21 GMT
#2380
On December 17 2010 06:42 wolfy4033 wrote:
I just figured I'd ask here. I'm not quite sure hwot o build Twitch anymore, since I counted on the AS on his Q and R, but since his ulti no longer give any AS I'm unsure what to do. I've been trying BF > boots > IE > PD a few games, and it seems to work alright. Just wondering if there's any more stable build out there I might have overlooked.

I still love Twitch even though his ulti is a lil worse than before <3


try bf sword -> boots -> recurve -> zerkers -> cleaver + starks
lifesteal, attack speed, tons of damage and the armor reduction on every enemy from your ult splash will brutalize
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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