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On July 21 2011 10:42 UniversalSnip wrote:
yah always put blue buff on the AD champs
I meant CDR as a DPS itemization stat for AP carries. Not referring to the CDR on the item. The point being that AP carries only get to itemize for 2 stats, AP and % increased AP, because CDR is covered by blue buff, while with this item, AD champs will legitimately have 5 multiplicative damage stats to work with.
Also, doesn't this edge out Bloodthirster on like 90% of the champs that get it now? Most of those champs get BT for the cost-efficient source of straight AD toward AD-scaling abilities, and not for the lifesteal--most of those champion kits would benefit more from the ArPen and CDR.
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LMAO
blue screen of death
log in?
nope
q 5 minutes
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Due to the overwhelming demand for the improved experience on both EU West, and EU East & Nordic, it’s become apparent that we will need to utilize the extra capacity [of US servers]
haha, the split did nothing, we still get the 200ms latency servers.
"Noooo, we have hardware and money isnt an issue, its just a technical problem that doesnt let us scale one single cluster as well as we would like" yeah right.
Bunch of liars.
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Apparently I won the game anyways. I'm thinking they surrendered as we beat on their mid tower without realizing that I BSOD'd and wouldn't be back for another 10 minutes o_o;
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Riot really must have improved their matchmaking today, it's working as it should. 9-0, +120 elo.
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Riot's simply too lazy to write a separate administrator client is my bet. Everything moderatey is done through their databases directly.
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Nony streaming a duo queue game with me! Should be fun since our elo is 500~ apart.
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Orianna is the single most op champ in the game atm.
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On July 21 2011 11:02 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 10:42 UniversalSnip wrote:
yah always put blue buff on the AD champs I meant CDR as a DPS itemization stat for AP carries. Not referring to the CDR on the item. The point being that AP carries only get to itemize for 2 stats, AP and % increased AP, because CDR is covered by blue buff, while with this item, AD champs will legitimately have 5 multiplicative damage stats to work with. Also, doesn't this edge out Bloodthirster on like 90% of the champs that get it now? Most of those champs get BT for the cost-efficient source of straight AD toward AD-scaling abilities, and not for the lifesteal--most of those champion kits would benefit more from the ArPen and CDR.
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be for like garen, panth, renek, etc that scale offensively almost entirely off ad and very little off crit chance, attack speed etc. It's just the costing is wrong, it's not supposed to be, say, a good ashe item.
Non-caster carry champs do not need any more multipliers, i agree
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On July 21 2011 10:45 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 10:35 Jaksiel wrote:
Yiruru and ShakeDrizzle and Rain Man's stream right now. Really looks to me like Yiruru is carrying this game. Are you kidding me? Did no one see my double kill at bot as Soraka.
I think I tuned in too late for that sadly.
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On July 21 2011 11:55 UniversalSnip wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be for like garen, panth, renek, etc that scale offensively almost entirely off ad and very little off crit chance, attack speed etc. It's just the costing is wrong, it's not supposed to be, say, a good ashe item.
Non-caster carry champs do not need any more multipliers, i agree
In that case, they should have the passive be something like "Increases damage dealt by spells by 25%". AP champs won't get it anyway because of the AD/ArPen, and it'll keep AD carries from scaling too hard off of it because the % multiplier won't be on autoattacks.
As it stands, Infinity Edge + this item gives 1k+ base damage crits. Someone like Ashe will have more up-front burst than an AP carry with similar gold value itemization (compare IE + this new item vs. RoA + DCap--Annie's RQW combo would actually have LESS damage than Ashe's autocrit+Volley). Scaling into ability damage is fine, but autoattacks already have enough multipliers.
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Laning the Lux and Leona together bot lane seems like a decent gimmick lane. Between Sunlight and Illumination, two Lux autoattacks get 80 bonus damage at level two, three get 185 at level three, and four get 410 bonus damage at level six. Granted, actually landing everything will be fairly difficult but the payout is ludicrous.
Thoughts?
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lawl. Imagine udyr tiger stance with 4 BT's + that item + boots. Most hilarious troll in the game. 2k damage in 1 second npnp.
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On July 21 2011 12:41 BlackPaladin wrote:
lawl. Imagine udyr tiger stance with 4 BT's + that item + boots. Most hilarious troll in the game. 2k damage in 1 second npnp.
3 BTs + 1 IE would probably do more, given how much an autoattack would crit for.
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On July 21 2011 12:28 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 11:55 UniversalSnip wrote:
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be for like garen, panth, renek, etc that scale offensively almost entirely off ad and very little off crit chance, attack speed etc. It's just the costing is wrong, it's not supposed to be, say, a good ashe item.
Non-caster carry champs do not need any more multipliers, i agree In that case, they should have the passive be something like "Increases damage dealt by spells by 25%". AP champs won't get it anyway because of the AD/ArPen, and it'll keep AD carries from scaling too hard off of it because the % multiplier won't be on autoattacks. As it stands, Infinity Edge + this item gives 1k+ base damage crits. Someone like Ashe will have more up-front burst than an AP carry with similar gold value itemization (compare IE + this new item vs. RoA + DCap--Annie's RQW combo would actually have LESS damage than Ashe's autocrit+Volley). Scaling into ability damage is fine, but autoattacks already have enough multipliers.
That's because the stats are wrong, probably guinsoo made them up on the fly. if they adjusted the numbers I'm pretty sure they could make it worse than ie/thirster/phantom dancer for straight up autoattackers and better for ad casters
don't get hung up on the numbers, this item couldn't release with those stats.
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doing my best to get rid of this ranged AD+support meta... laned Poppy Jarvan against Vayne Soraka and we were up 7 kills by the time Vayne hit level 6. I just want to be able to play Trist vs Ashe mid again without all these silly supports getting in the way :/
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All these lane changes seem to happen with big tourneys, or if some high elo player with a stream and huge numbers of viewers starts doing it.
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On July 21 2011 12:33 WhiteNights wrote:
Laning the Lux and Leona together bot lane seems like a decent gimmick lane. Between Sunlight and Illumination, two Lux autoattacks get 80 bonus damage at level two, three get 185 at level three, and four get 410 bonus damage at level six. Granted, actually landing everything will be fairly difficult but the payout is ludicrous.
Thoughts?
Since I saw Leona's kit I've been trying to get a Leona to duo lane with me bot as Lux. I'm pretty sure it's not that hard to pull it off in practice, and the combo can probably shit on whoever gets hits.
So, if it ends up being the new FoTM I just want to say I called it first.
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