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scottyyy
United Kingdom796 Posts
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On July 15 2011 09:28 scottyyy wrote: Dudes, any jungling tips for a new player? Still not reached level 30 but I thought I'd try out jungling as Amumu. Particularly need advice when dude's come and steal my blue. My team never seems to care and I don't really know how to recover when this happens. I'm not a great player, but when teams bring players off lanes to counter jungle they're sacrificing exp and gold in lane to mess with your route. Start at a safer place and don't be overeager, go back to heal if your alternate route takes you lower in health than the one that was disrupted by counter jungling. You'll be less behind since they denied themselves xp by coming off lane to counter. Of course the best response is to get people on your team to come for kills, but below 30 that's not always easy to do. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On July 15 2011 09:28 scottyyy wrote: Dudes, any jungling tips for a new player? Still not reached level 30 but I thought I'd try out jungling as Amumu. Particularly need advice when dude's come and steal my blue. My team never seems to care and I don't really know how to recover when this happens. blue stolen -> wraiths -> minigolems -> wolves -> clear blue if little lizards left over -> red, u may have to b before doing red. stealing their blue is possible, but i wouldnt recommend unless u have a ward+cv on your team, mostly just kus mumu gets a bit dicey @ blue when he doesnt get a leash. @ hyperion, counterjungling for first buff is actually very common in higher levels of play and typically most teams can get it with minimal to no loss of xp/gold. Its all a matter of game by game basis and how well the teams stack up in a lvl 1 fight as to whether or not its worth defending. Sometimes the enemy team has blitz, cow, udyr and taric and you spend your lvl 1 just twiddling ur fingers in lane kus theres not a thing u can do if they invade. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
On July 15 2011 09:44 barbsq wrote: @ hyperion, counterjungling for first buff is actually very common in higher levels of play and typically most teams can get it with minimal to no loss of xp/gold. Its all a matter of game by game basis and how well the teams stack up in a lvl 1 fight as to whether or not its worth defending. Sometimes the enemy team has blitz, cow, udyr and taric and you spend your lvl 1 just twiddling ur fingers in lane kus theres not a thing u can do if they invade. Ya, that's definitely true that some teams make the blue not worth defending. Fiddle's fear is worst in level 1 teamfight. Still, if you can't get people to come defend (as is his case in lower level games), we both agree it's better just to pull back/start somewhere else. Is it that little of a loss in XP? If they bring 4 or 5 to counter and your team goes to their respective lanes, they might grab a buff but your top and mid lanes are likely going to be a level ahead at that point.... | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 15 2011 09:48 HyperionDreamer wrote: Is it that little of a loss in XP? If they bring 4 or 5 to counter and your team goes to their respective lanes, they might grab a buff but your top and mid lanes are likely going to be a level ahead at that point.... They'll only likely get 2-3 creeps ahead mid, and at most 4-5 top. It doesn't take 30 seconds to get back top, and nobody has the pushing power level 1 to push the first wave into tower that fast. You'll have creep control for sure, but it'll even out once they reset the lane (though before then they will probably fall further behind in CS, but not XP). | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On July 15 2011 09:48 HyperionDreamer wrote: Ya, that's definitely true that some teams make the blue not worth defending. Fiddle's fear is worst in level 1 teamfight. Still, if you can't get people to come defend (as is his case in lower level games), we both agree it's better just to pull back/start somewhere else. Is it that little of a loss in XP? If they bring 4 or 5 to counter and your team goes to their respective lanes, they might grab a buff but your top and mid lanes are likely going to be a level ahead at that point.... the only situation where xp loss comes into play is when the purple team tries to steal bottom blue, and whoever is top has to trek all the way up and whoever is already top can actually make it to lvl 2-3 be4 they get there. typically we send the top player ahead of time once we've secured the blue already if we're in that position. Otherwise, bot may miss ~1-2 creeps and mid shouldnt miss any xp, tho possibly 1-2 gold, but thats not significant. edit: also the reverse isnt quite true, due to the nature of the split xp, bascially A) 1 of the 2 players bot is gonna be support and will inevitably leave the lane a few times, cushioning any xp loss. B) creep flow will actually have more of an effect on who reaches lvl 6 first than missing 4-5 creeps. Mid should also never miss any xp. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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Parametric
Canada1261 Posts
Top : farmbot/apcarry Mid: apcarry bot: support/adcarry jungle: depends on what top lane chose to be i miss messing up top lane with trist | ||
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naonao
United States847 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
On July 15 2011 10:31 naonao wrote: So if this a hack thats been going around? or something just go terribly wrong? I posted this before, but it is possible to random last ban. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I posted this before, but it is possible to random last ban. I never quite understood this...and Phreak has commented that it is impossible to abuse this intentionally... Is that because the only way to get a champ is to let time run out and random a champ? Are people really risking randoming a champion that would be horrible for a team in order to get a banned one as often as I've heard about? | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On July 15 2011 10:46 WaveofShadow wrote: I never quite understood this...and Phreak has commented that it is impossible to abuse this intentionally... seriously doubt he said this | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
Phreak was commenting on the tibbers bug. I don't think the banned bug is easy to exploit. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
On July 15 2011 11:42 r33k wrote: Did I miss some ESL matches? I see the stream on and it's offline. Rainman said they had games later on tonight I really hope I didn't miss anything good. TSM v RS it wasn't very good games. + Show Spoiler + TSM won 2-0 A decent series will be tomorrow when CLG pays against unR. Then the qualifying tournament for gamescon is this weekend as well. | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
You're a lot better off running something like Cait/Taric than Annie/Taric. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 15 2011 11:11 Irave wrote: Phreak was commenting on the tibbers bug. I don't think the banned bug is easy to exploit. My mistake. It wasn't Phreak, but http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=11390874#post11390874 | ||
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