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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:20:51
July 10 2011 15:19 GMT
#20501
A level 4 powerful jungler like udyr or xin zhao would have to gank 3 level 2 people with 2 others, so a 3v3 with one level 4 with doublebuff, would burn 3 flashes at least.
2 supports with a pink ward in the brush and a carry would be able to zone the lane hard though. I think the jungler xp for the first 6-8 levels would be much more than the lost xp and cs from getting zoned. mid and top can play agressive as they like and the enemies can't because of jungle ganks.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:26:58
July 10 2011 15:26 GMT
#20502
On July 10 2011 23:19 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 21:06 zalz wrote:
On July 10 2011 19:16 Woony wrote:
I think 2 people can zone one person harder than three people can zone two people, so the top for the trilane team would get zoned even harder.


Not if the enemy team plays a classic 1-1-2 + jungle. Then the field looks like:


1v1 top

1v1 mid

1v3 bot

The jungler would have trouble ganking the bot lane since his presence would not make it a 3v2 but rather only cancel out the otherwise permanent advantage for the bot team.

No way. Jungler would FAR FAR FAR outlevel the trilane and would have at least Lizard. It'd be a HUGE advantage for the non-trilane team and the fact that the trilane would be pushed would mean at least a couple of kills.


Refuse to last hit, keep the lane perfectly in the center, deny the carry his gold and exp. Wait till you hit level 4 for tower ganks.

Jungler can't do shit because you won't let the laners even get a single shred of exp, thus the only help he could get would be level 1's.


Downside ofcourse you don't get any gold but the carry doesn't get any gold either. In a matter of time you start to gank them like crazy whilst they haven't even gotten a single shred of exp.

Other problem would be the hero setup. Not sure how long it takes 3 people to hit level 4 and how much minion kills they would miss out on. If the champions are the kind that don't need much gold they could effectively still be in a better position then a carry without gold or exp.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 10 2011 16:06 GMT
#20503
It doesnt matter. Give a jungle free reign of the entire map, your looking at a super fed carry. Throw someone useless bot, like ali and janna, carries in solo lanes, let bot zone all they want, it wont mean a thing.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 16:15:59
July 10 2011 16:15 GMT
#20504
Trilanes work because in dota/hon there are characters who can do 40% of your hp in one spell while you're outleveling them by 3 levels, because there are 3+ seconds non-ult disables and because there are characters with 2 disables and possibly even a non-ult escape tool, and they only need lv 3 to use them.

That being said, one person in the trilane will stay out of exp range whenever he can, and initiation can happen from twice the distance it can in LoL.

Fuck, now I have to take some time and write a blog for my 2k post instead of following up on roamers in dota and junglers fucking up the trilanes.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 10 2011 16:47 GMT
#20505
There's also the fact that DotA/HoN have supports that are ridiculously front-loaded on their level-based utility. Someone like Earthshaker gains a vast amount of his utility at level 1, and can take his sweet time gaining levels. Most of the supports in LoL, while certainly not farm-dependent, do actually need to gain levels to really stay relevant.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 10 2011 18:12 GMT
#20506
BUT THIS ISN'T HON/DOTA GTFO /sarcasm lulz

We didn't mention stacking creeps and pulling! Or ancients! 100 gold creeps OP?

I dunno about you but hon/dota feels faster and more responsive in terms of movement and hero control.
FADC
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 18:30:45
July 10 2011 18:28 GMT
#20507
discussion is about whether you would run trilane if junglers/roamers were nerfed to unplayability, stop dragging the jungler in he doesn't matter.... Your choices are 2/1/2, 1/2/2 or 1/1/3.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
July 10 2011 18:34 GMT
#20508
Just have someone with obnoxiously long farming range bot + keep trying to keep lane in front of tower. I don't see a triple lane ever working. It might break up the meta of ad carry + support for mage + support with ad solo, but your tri lane will be so underleveled that having your mage below your AD will still be way better.

You guys have this mistaken impression that you're somehow going to get everyone strong enough to dive at level 3 when you have 3 people fighting for exp and cs.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
July 10 2011 18:45 GMT
#20509
On July 10 2011 12:56 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 12:47 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:04 0123456789 wrote:
Oh dam, Diggity is going to become a pro LoL player. Sweet.


When did he say this???

Go back a page.


I see you saying that. I don't see Diggity saying that. Link?
So wait? I'm bad? =(
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 10 2011 18:51 GMT
#20510
On July 11 2011 03:45 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 12:56 HazMat wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:47 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:04 0123456789 wrote:
Oh dam, Diggity is going to become a pro LoL player. Sweet.


When did he say this???

Go back a page.


I see you saying that. I don't see Diggity saying that. Link?

It was from before I started playing. April of 2010. I can't find it but iirc it was digitt saying he won't have time to commentate SC games to play LoL professionally. Pretty sure it was a blog.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Soloside
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1238 Posts
July 10 2011 19:02 GMT
#20511
New FOTM.


Run revive on everyone.

True story on CN server.
LoL: Taylor Swift | King Kayle
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
July 10 2011 19:44 GMT
#20512
I just got trolled by an april fools joke. =(
So wait? I'm bad? =(
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 10 2011 20:29 GMT
#20513
On July 11 2011 04:44 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I just got trolled by an april fools joke. =(


In July. LIKE A BOSS.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 10 2011 20:31 GMT
#20514
Weird I don't see TSM participating in this pretty important Go4LoL. Perhaps they weren't aware of what the outcome results in.

On July 11 2011 04:44 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I just got trolled by an april fools joke. =(

This makes me sad for you.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 10 2011 21:41 GMT
#20515
On July 11 2011 05:31 Irave wrote:
Weird I don't see TSM participating in this pretty important Go4LoL. Perhaps they weren't aware of what the outcome results in.

Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 04:44 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I just got trolled by an april fools joke. =(

This makes me sad for you.

They're counting on beating rock solid and don't want to hurt EG.

Also it's pretty big that doublelift wasn't even going to tell EG that he was going to leave. With pgb in his place EG's level falls quite a bit. Even with dyrus in his proper role pgb isn't the "hidden gem" that less known players like Salce are.

What's Salce's background anyways? I remember the name salcepulse from somewhere, might be WoW might be GW...

Oh and I'm calling Jiji Kayle at the first big big match. He has 59 games with her (51-8) and 7.2 KDR (his best KDR with any champion).
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 21:46:54
July 10 2011 21:46 GMT
#20516
I'm pretty sure Jiji's ratio is from old Kayle back when she was super duper strong.

And Salce was Salcepulse before he got his his name changed.

Oh nevermind read that wrong. IDK about Salce's gaming history.
Retvrn to Forvms
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
July 10 2011 21:53 GMT
#20517
Who did Doublelift move to then?
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 10 2011 21:54 GMT
#20518
It looks like we will have the HoN team vs It's Gosu. I'm said that orie stopped streaming.

EG vs uNR also going to be a great game.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
July 10 2011 21:54 GMT
#20519
On July 11 2011 06:53 mrgerry wrote:
Who did Doublelift move to then?

Unr
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
July 10 2011 21:55 GMT
#20520
I think i just saw Dan Dinh looking at unR team page and I saw Doublelift there
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
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