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arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 23:56:50
July 08 2011 23:56 GMT
#20361
Heh, clearly you've never played World of Warcraft. People actively avoid scheduling events on the Tuesdays that content patches are released because the servers are usually so unstable.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 00:00:20
July 08 2011 23:58 GMT
#20362
On July 09 2011 07:30 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2011 05:10 Senx wrote:
Struggle was long and hard, but finally hit dat juicy gold icon <3


What's gold, 1900? I'm 1862 atm I thought it might have been 1850.


Its 1875, was real annoying seeing myself win a game and only reach 1874 after going up and down between 1800-1860 all day :s
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 09 2011 00:04 GMT
#20363
On July 09 2011 08:56 arnath wrote:
Heh, clearly you've never played World of Warcraft. People actively avoid scheduling events on the Tuesdays that content patches are released because the servers are usually so unstable.

Heh. I never played WoW, yes. I played GW, which never had any issues with patches. At least none that I can remember, and none that made the game unplayable.

I suspected that it had something to do with what MoonBear said about LoL using bad coding and the understaffing due to them not realizing the extent to which LoL would become popular. They designed a great game, but it's sad to see how so many other, non-game related things are holding them back so hard.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
July 09 2011 00:31 GMT
#20364
I wonder if this "shiny" update also involves a complete reconstructured and improved code to scale better with the large playerbase.

Oh wait, nevermind I said that, I'd rather just split the EU scene in 2 parts and solve it that way instead of actually adressing the issue at hand which is a poorly coded game with a poor infrastructure to support it.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 09 2011 01:25 GMT
#20365
On July 09 2011 09:31 Senx wrote:
I wonder if this "shiny" update also involves a complete reconstructured and improved code to scale better with the large playerbase.

Oh wait, nevermind I said that, I'd rather just split the EU scene in 2 parts and solve it that way instead of actually adressing the issue at hand which is a poorly coded game with a poor infrastructure to support it.


From what I know they were getting new servers (renting a building + buying the servers) for project shiny. Plus bring out the new coding with the new launcher beforehand for all the stuff they wanted to do. Psy said that wayyyy back + riot made a lot of random posts about it over the past months. But I think Psy was talking mainly about US servers since he did work in Cali.

The EU split was probably an easier way for them to deal with how many EU players there are. At least that explanation makes the most sense to me.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
July 09 2011 01:30 GMT
#20366
On July 09 2011 10:25 BlackPaladin wrote:
The EU split was probably an easier way for them to deal with how many EU players there are. At least that explanation makes the most sense to me.

I think it is which is why it is kind of depressing. They are doing something with definite negative long term consequences to fix this short term problem. It probably makes sense from a quarter-based business perspective but with dota 2 on the horizon its a good reason for their biggest playerbase to abandon them.
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
July 09 2011 01:32 GMT
#20367
Project shiny is an overhaul of the graphics engine, which has nothing to do with the current problems LoL is experiencing. The adobe air PvP.net client is what's currently unstable, and solving that would require the whole client to be rewritten (adobe air was not a long-term decision for a platform).

Digging deeper, part of the reason the client is unstable is because the servers are working over capacity, which the split + more servers aim to solve. The other part is that the client is not robust enough to work under bad server conditions.

Adding more servers and splitting the load IS addressing the poor infrastructure problem, which in turn alleviates the client issues.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 09 2011 01:37 GMT
#20368
Riot PTR #1 Tower Divers

REAL TRIPLE KILL in Leona spotlight GJ PHREAK well played
FADC
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
July 09 2011 01:40 GMT
#20369
I have a very hard time seeing EU West acting any different from the current EU server. The vast majority of the east players are from scandinavia and they'll switch to west so the server load will be similiar.

It really annoys me, if this game had the infrastructure that HoN has it would be so fucking amazing.
Now its like a cripple of a game that you play because you feel sorry for it and that if you care enough it'll become good.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
July 09 2011 02:19 GMT
#20370
On July 09 2011 10:32 Lanzoma wrote:
Project shiny is an overhaul of the graphics engine, which has nothing to do with the current problems LoL is experiencing. The adobe air PvP.net client is what's currently unstable, and solving that would require the whole client to be rewritten (adobe air was not a long-term decision for a platform).

Digging deeper, part of the reason the client is unstable is because the servers are working over capacity, which the split + more servers aim to solve. The other part is that the client is not robust enough to work under bad server conditions.

Adding more servers and splitting the load IS addressing the poor infrastructure problem, which in turn alleviates the client issues.


I think the whole adding servers thing Brent talked about was supposed to be released along with project shiny so I kind of just put the 2 together when I think of them in my mind. *shrugs*
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
July 09 2011 02:26 GMT
#20371
Observe, as Riot's networking division is hard at work fixing the server issues.

StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
July 09 2011 02:34 GMT
#20372
On July 09 2011 08:56 arnath wrote:
Heh, clearly you've never played World of Warcraft. People actively avoid scheduling events on the Tuesdays that content patches are released because the servers are usually so unstable.

Seconded, I remember that from years ago when I played. And Blizzard cannot claim lack of funds or staff which Riot has definite claims to
You can't milk those!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 09 2011 02:38 GMT
#20373
well, with the downtime and all, anyone feel like helping me mathcraft mpen vs ap/lvl blues? I have no idea how it works other then MPEN=GOOD and AP=GOOD.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 09 2011 02:43 GMT
#20374
oh man the martians, my favorite part of Sesame Street
it's my first day
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-09 03:05:01
July 09 2011 03:02 GMT
#20375
On July 09 2011 11:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
well, with the downtime and all, anyone feel like helping me mathcraft mpen vs ap/lvl blues? I have no idea how it works other then MPEN=GOOD and AP=GOOD.

Haha, I was about to do the same thing with Flat AP vs MPen quints. XD

But really it depends on what spells and items you have, it's very situational.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 09 2011 03:10 GMT
#20376
I have a sneaking suspicion that mpen blues are really damn good, especially if you plan to stack drings.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
July 09 2011 03:12 GMT
#20377
Last I heard, Riot was supposed to have moved into a new building around this time with brand new servers and an even better internet support system in place. Shiny was also suppose to be out by this time as well.

Surprise! Talked to a friend awhile ago and they still haven't moved and shiny is in the final stages but no ETA on release.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
July 09 2011 03:13 GMT
#20378
So, is Leona 6300?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
July 09 2011 03:16 GMT
#20379
On July 09 2011 12:13 57 Corvette wrote:
So, is Leona 6300?

Almost certainly. I'll be buying her and her skin in the discount pack that will inevitably come out ^_^
EliteAzn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States661 Posts
July 09 2011 03:16 GMT
#20380
On July 09 2011 12:13 57 Corvette wrote:
So, is Leona 6300?


Most likely....but who knows...

Maybe a "We F*ked up!" discount would be in effect
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