• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:11
CEST 15:11
KST 22:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview3[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Do we have a pimpest plays list? Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (Spoiler) Asl ro8 D winner interview BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1171 users

[HotS] Lore of the Nexus: Yrel's Redemption

Forum Index > Heroes of the Storm
16 CommentsPost a Reply

[HotS] Lore of the Nexus: Yrel's Redemption

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
June 21st, 2018 10:34 GMT


Lore of the Nexus


The Redemption of Yrel



Written by: Midseasons



Table of Contents
  • Informed Attributes
  • Pacing and Development
  • The Draenor Problem
  • Conclusion


Can Heroes of the Storm give a character new life? The game features beloved characters from Blizzard’s decades-long history, but the arrival of Yrel into the Nexus has raised some eyebrows. A new addition to the Warcraft universe, Yrel was introduced in 2014 as a central character of the much-maligned Warlords of Draenor expansion. Among the World of Warcraft community, Yrel is a controversial figure; she has her fans, certainly, but she’s inseparable from a campaign many would rather forget.

So her inclusion in the game at all is an interesting decision, but what’s even more intriguing is that Yrel is the first new hero to arrive since Blizzard began their “lore of the Nexus” initiative in May. The Heroes of the Storm team is committed to exploring the story-telling opportunities of the game, and out of the hundreds of possible characters that could have spearheaded this initiative, they chose Yrel. It’s a bold move—and a brilliant one—because it shows the team understands what the Nexus can add to the rest of the Blizzard multiverse. Heroes of the Storm isn’t limited to nostalgic celebration, it’s also a game where characters have a fresh shot at connecting with an audience. Yrel has come to the Nexus to pay back her debt to the Alliance, and the Nexus might just end up saving Yrel too.



This isn’t the the first time that Heroes of the Storm has given a second chance to a misfit character either. Given how expansive Blizzard’s lore is, it’s impossible for every story to land with the audience, but the more we learn about the Nexus, the more we see it has an intelligence all of its own and that it has always been adept at choosing its heroes at their most iconic moments.

Over the course of World of Warcraft, popular figures like Thrall, Jaina, Tyrande, and Illidan have all been involved in stories that were less than well-received. Heroes of the Storm’s answer was to roll those characters back to their more familiar and beloved Warcraft 3 incarnations to satisfy both the frustrated WoW players and the WC3 veterans who never got into the MMO.

Outside of Warcraft, Azmodan is another example of a character who was rescued by the Nexus. Diablo 3 tried to present Azmodan as a feared General of Hell, but that portrayal fell flat for most players. The story built Azmodan up to be a threat, but few actually found him intimidating, making his entire chapter regarded as an anti-climactic time sink before the arrival of Diablo. In Heroes of the Storm, Azmodan has certainly had his triumphs and failures, falling in and out of the meta over the years. But Heroes of the Storm gave Azmodan something Diablo 3 never did: a fanbase. There have been times when Azmodan has been a power pick and times when he’s been a meme. But wherever Azmodan lies in the range of buffs and nerfs, he’s become a recognized icon throughout the Heroes of the Storm community, even becoming the mascot for Heroes of the Dorm.

So redeeming characters is nothing new for Heroes of the Storm, but Yrel represents a new level of challenge. There’s no nostalgic version of her to return to, so she’s forced to stand as her most recent (and only) incarnation. More than that, the challenges to accepting Yrel are bigger than a single character.



Yrel’s individual storyline appealed to some players and alienated others, but for better or worse, she was part of an overarching story that the community wasn’t interested in hearing. The problems with Yrel’s storyline was never Yrel herself, but the mediocre Warlords campaign as a whole. Even if Yrel didn’t exist at all, Warlords of Draenor would still have been hated. Even more painful for Yrel, the response to the Warlords story was so poor Blizzard abandoned it midway, quickly shoveling out a hasty plot twist in a new patch and then moving on to a new story instead. This left Yrel herself completely stranded as a character, with a plot that was never resolved and a build-up that was never satisfied.

The deck is stacked against Yrel, but the situation isn’t dire. Heroes of the Storm can be a fresh start for the character, and the team at Blizzard has good reason to be confident in her. Many of the problems that Yrel’s story faced are solved by the game’s format. Let’s talk about three of those, specifically, and see how Heroes of the Storm rescues Yrel from obscurity.


Informed Attributes



There are many ways bad writing can weaken a character, but informed attributes can be the fastest road to rejection. If the audience don’t believe in the character’s personal traits, they can’t invest in the arc either. In Diablo 3, other characters constantly describe Azmodan as a brilliant tactician and strategist, but Azmodan himself never demonstrates any of that alleged brilliance. It’s a violation of one of writing’s most basic principles “show, don’t tell,” and it’s an easy pitfall for quest-driven narrative games like Diablo or WoW.

Heroes of the Storm doesn’t have this problem. MOBA characters, by their inherent design, put direct control of their attributes in the hands of the player. Rather than being told narratively that Azmodan is supposed to be a general, a player controlling Azmodan is given the tools to become one. A solid hero design will infuse the character’s personality and style into their abilities, immersing the player in the avatar. And this is something the HotS team has proven they can do very well. Players don’t need to be told that Garrosh is aggressive or that Johanna is courageous, that Lúcio prefers to be close to his team or that Murky is persistently annoying. They play out those traits directly and gravitate towards heroes who fit their own mindset as players.

Throughout Yrel’s story arc in Warlords of Draenor, other draenei expressed their confidence in her ability to inspire, lead, and become a bastion of the Light. In Heroes of the Storm, players controlling Yrel get to bring those traits to life. If Yrel’s hero design is successful, then players won’t need to be told that Yrel is a badass. Her kit will speak for itself and empower the player to feel like a badass playing her.


Pacing and Development



When WoW players first met Yrel, she was a young and untrained woman, shaken by her very first combat experience. Over the next few zones, she is brought forcefully into a leadership role before she’s prepared but rises to the occasion after finding her will to fight. By the end, she’s uniting her people like no leader ever has before. It’s a standard coming of age tale, and there’s nothing inherently wrong with it—except that the whole plot can be done in just a handful of hours, and depending on the player’s preferred game modes, whole sections of the story can be skipped or seen out of order.

Role-playing games can deliver satisfying character arcs, but the flow of time between quests can easily become vague. MMO games have it even worse, as players are frequently left wondering how much time passes in the game’s story between zones or balance patches. The vagueness of Yrel’s time frame, coupled with the individual pace each player would experience her quests, makes it a daunting task for WoW’s story to convey Yrel’s development in a believable way.

But heroes in a MOBA don’t have to deal with character arcs at all. The nature of the genre makes each single match an isolated event of gameplay, with no continuity for the heroes in between matches. Being placed on the red side in one Towers of Doom game has no impact on your next Cursed Hollow skirmish, and there’s no plot significance to the forts in Blackheart’s Bay being destroyed over and over again every day. There’s no need for a story that develops your hero as a person over the course of level 1 to 20, because that story would simply be reset when the match ended and the next one began. MOBA heroes can have extensive backstories, carry pre-existing relationships with other characters, and brim with personality, but once the game is launched they represent frozen moments in time.

This phenomenon makes the Nexus a land of rich opportunity. Heroes present themselves to the player as fully realized figures distilled to their purest essence and are judged solely on the qualities they express. Heroes of the Storm isn’t affected by the current storylines of heroes like Tyrael or Jaina, nor does it need to concern itself with what might happen to those characters in future expansions. The only important thing in the Nexus is the unchanging essence of those heroes, the elements that remain constant about them even across alternate timelines and reinterpretations.



Looking back to Yrel, it’s clear that the HotS team decided that her essence doesn’t lie in her storyline’s journey, but in who she became at the end of it. The Yrel portrayed in the Nexus shows her fully embracing her role as Exarch. She is smiling, bold, confident, secure in her faith, and she doesn’t hesitate to wield her powers for her allies and against her enemies. This Yrel didn’t have room to be explored in Warlords of Draenor, but the Nexus gives her an entirely new game in which to live, breathe, and stretch her wings. Whatever unsatisfying storylines might involve Yrel, past or future, the HotS team has made it clear that this is the vision of Yrel that matters to Blizzard. And as she becomes a fixture within Heroes of the Storm, it will be the version of Yrel that is constantly reinforced and presented daily to the community.


The Draenor Problem



One of the biggest obstacles to Yrel’s acceptance is her connection to Warlords of Draenor itself. The WoW community responded to Warlords with the sharpest decline of subscriptions in the game’s history, so the expansion’s failure is one that both sides would rather forget, and it seems Blizzard is happy to help that forgetfulness along.

WoW’s next expansion, Battle for Azeroth, is releasing in a few short months, and fans watching the expansion’s news noticed that details from the Draenor campaign diverged from the story that had actually been portrayed in Warlords. This came to a head when Blizzard added Draenor’s orcs to the Battle for Azeroth preview site and confirmed them as a playable race, and the official Blizzard summary of their history—while brief—presents a total retcon of the events. The original plot of Warlords was scrapped in the rush to push out the new expansion, and now Battle for Azeroth implies that the the story we did experience didn't happen either.

While the expansion hasn’t been explicitly declared non-canonical, the current direction of the lore is pushing what happened further and further under a rug. This new version of the Mag’har history also means that Yrel’s entire storyline couldn’t have happened either.


...Yeah, it didn’t go like that.


Whether intentional or not, bringing Yrel into the Nexus pushes Warlords into even more irrelevance. With the expansion’s original story being disowned by Blizzard, Yrel becomes a figure without a clear history. Heroes of the Storm fills her blank slate, especially since many HotS players were never familiar with Warlords of Draenor in the first place. Without that baggage, Yrel can be portrayed the way Blizzard intends her to be remembered, virtually making her a new character. If that gambit is successful, it helps both Blizzard and the community act like Warlords of Draenor never happened.




The Nexus has opened its arms and accepted characters that were rejected by their original games since the beginning, but Yrel represents a larger challenge than most as a gambit with potentially great rewards. If Heroes of the Storm can successfully rehabilitate Yrel’s reputation, it benefits all parties involved. It would prove to Blizzard that the Nexus can handle risky characters and expand the range of possible stories and worlds the HotS team could create. That’s still an if, though. Only time will tell whether the community embraces Yrel as a new fixture, or if her light will simply burn out.





Fern “Midseasons” Rojas writes (and fights!) for the Alliance. Fern’s garrison back in Shadowmoon Valley is still decorated for Winter Veil all year long. Both Alliance and Horde are welcome to follow Fern and watch together to see how Yrel develops, though.





Writer(s): Midseasons
Editor(s): Buckingham
Formatting: EsportsJohn
Design: shiroiusagi
Art Credit: Blizzard


Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50935 Posts
June 21 2018 12:21 GMT
#2
+ Show Spoiler [WoW:BFA spoilers] +
I wonder how long it will be until all yrel players run around yelling DEUS VULT
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8308 Posts
June 21 2018 16:43 GMT
#3
I'm out of the loop on WoW lore since Mists of Pandaria. What's the deal with the Yrel retcon?
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-21 18:44:25
June 21 2018 18:44 GMT
#4
Nice article, fun to read something different.
We know nothing.
Midseasons
Profile Joined February 2017
United States48 Posts
June 21 2018 21:16 GMT
#5
On June 22 2018 01:43 TheDougler wrote:
I'm out of the loop on WoW lore since Mists of Pandaria. What's the deal with the Yrel retcon?


Okay, SO.

In Warlords of Draenor, Garrosh went back in time and united the orc clans with future tech. They called themselves the Iron Horde, and their plan was to invade the future (or "present," from the player's perspective) and conquer it all, with a younger version of Grommash as the main villain.

The Alliance and Horde teamed up and went back in time together, and with the help of the independent Frostwolf clan of orcs, rallied the past-draenei together into an army under Yrel. The idea was that a combined force of Alliance, Horde, Frostwolf orcs led by Durotan, and draenei led by Yrel, would all band together, defeat the Iron Horde, and save the future.

No one liked that storyline, so in 6.2 suddenly demons invaded and imprisoned both the draenei and the Iron Horde, and the players "saved" both. The final cutscene is Grommash and Yrel celebrating together, and the fact that Grommash had been the main villain who was planning to invade the future was simply never brought up again. 6.2 completely dropped the idea of the Iron Horde as bad guys, even though both the Alliance and the Horde worked together to fight them.


The retconned story being told in Battle for Azeroth now acts as though it was a demon invasion from the very beginning. Blizzard is saying that the orcs in the past banded together to fight the demonic legion and sent out a distress call, and that the Horde from the future answered the distress call and went back in time to save the orcs from the demons. No mention is made of the orcs trying to conquer Draenor or Azeroth, or using their stolen technology to try and invade the future. It's being told to us as though they were always allies and that the Draenor campaign was the players coming to their aid.
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 21 2018 23:07 GMT
#6
On June 22 2018 06:16 Midseasons wrote:
The final cutscene is Grommash and Yrel celebrating together, and the fact that Grommash had been the main villain who was planning to invade the future was simply never brought up again.


Wow, how does this keep happening to Grom? I'm still astounded that he came out of Reign of Chaos as a "hero".
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States550 Posts
June 22 2018 15:50 GMT
#7
Right? I remember him most clearly in his War2 incarnation, where he looks and sounds like a homicidal maniac.
Hakuna Matata B*tches
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
June 22 2018 18:03 GMT
#8
I like to remember Grom as his WC3 incarnation, driven by bloodlust but stuck in a feedback loop because of his relationship with Thrall. I think Blizz did a good job of capturing him as a "great warrior" who had many many many character defects he couldn't quite overcome.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 23 2018 12:40 GMT
#9
On June 23 2018 03:03 EsportsJohn wrote:
I like to remember Grom as his WC3 incarnation, driven by bloodlust but stuck in a feedback loop because of his relationship with Thrall. I think Blizz did a good job of capturing him as a "great warrior" who had many many many character defects he couldn't quite overcome.


I mean, I agree with "great warrior" in that he was great at killing things, I just don't see that as balancing out - let alone superceding - his many character flaws, which include selling out his entire people to the demons twice. I can feel sympathy for an alcoholic incapable of quitting, but that sympathy goes out the window long before the number of victims of his drunk driving hit quadruple digits .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-24 04:31:51
June 24 2018 04:28 GMT
#10
On June 23 2018 03:03 EsportsJohn wrote:
I like to remember Grom as his WC3 incarnation, driven by bloodlust but stuck in a feedback loop because of his relationship with Thrall. I think Blizz did a good job of capturing him as a "great warrior" who had many many many character defects he couldn't quite overcome.

I always saw him as sort of drinking the blood to become strong to make the horde great, but then since he drank the blood he was bound to mannoroth, but when he died it was like a redemption thing. Actually thinking about it, they were basically tricked by Guldan, but grom was the first to drink since he considered himself the leader of the horde or whatever i think

they originally wanted him as the last boss in Wod but i think they scrapped it cause no one wanted him to die. hard to say, always been a favorite character of mine at any rate



but damn that was a good cinematic
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-24 14:01:08
June 24 2018 14:00 GMT
#11
On June 24 2018 13:28 arb wrote:
Actually thinking about it, they were basically tricked by Guldan


That's not what I get from WarCraft III:

Grom: "Ah, Thrall. You always believed that the Demons corrupted our race, but that's only half true. We gave ourselves up willingly on Draenor! The other chieftains and I... we drank Mannoroth's blood, Thrall. We brought this curse upon ourselves!"
Thrall: "You did this... to our people... knowingly? *Ragescream*"


And even after that, after Thrall creates the new Horde and and the orcs decide they maybe shouldn't be demonpawns anymore, the very moment Grom finds something he's not able to kill, he goes right back to the demon blood. There's even a random Grunt telling him what a terrible plan that is, but he just goes right for it.

On June 24 2018 13:28 arb wrote:
but when he died it was like a redemption thing.


The problem is that redemption requires change on the character's part, and none of that happened. Grom's entire character is killing things, and the fact that in his last moment, that single character trait was directed at something more evil than he was is not so much redemption as it is irony. Nothing changed for Grom. Just because the psychopathic killing machine was pointed at Mannoroth instead of Cenarius does not demonstrate character growth. He killed it because it was there.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 24 2018 21:00 GMT
#12
On June 24 2018 23:00 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 13:28 arb wrote:
Actually thinking about it, they were basically tricked by Guldan


That's not what I get from WarCraft III:

Grom: "Ah, Thrall. You always believed that the Demons corrupted our race, but that's only half true. We gave ourselves up willingly on Draenor! The other chieftains and I... we drank Mannoroth's blood, Thrall. We brought this curse upon ourselves!"
Thrall: "You did this... to our people... knowingly? *Ragescream*"


And even after that, after Thrall creates the new Horde and and the orcs decide they maybe shouldn't be demonpawns anymore, the very moment Grom finds something he's not able to kill, he goes right back to the demon blood. There's even a random Grunt telling him what a terrible plan that is, but he just goes right for it.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2018 13:28 arb wrote:
but when he died it was like a redemption thing.


The problem is that redemption requires change on the character's part, and none of that happened. Grom's entire character is killing things, and the fact that in his last moment, that single character trait was directed at something more evil than he was is not so much redemption as it is irony. Nothing changed for Grom. Just because the psychopathic killing machine was pointed at Mannoroth instead of Cenarius does not demonstrate character growth. He killed it because it was there.

According to the wiki anyway Guldan had persuaded all of them to drink the blood to gain power and what have you but didnt tell them the part where they would be bound to Mannoroth for drinking it.

Either way i guess the lore is kind of confusing in this aspect. Since in the beginning of WoD when Grom asks Guldan what they must give in return he does say everything, but not the part about being enslaved by the legion.

So who knows
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
June 25 2018 02:58 GMT
#13
Yeah, I'm speaking from a limited perspective, since I've only ever played WarCraft 3 and vanilla WarCraft 2. Hell, I've seen cutscenes of Illidan from the last WoW expansion and I haven't the foggiest idea what's happening there. Blizzard frequently retcons existing stories into a shape they like better.

This isn't even recent either - in WarCraft 2 Orgrim Doomhammer was a cunning, backstabbing villain who betrayed his chieftain Blackhand to usurp control over the Horde, tortured Garona to learn about the Shadow Council then slaughtered all of the Horde's Warlocks while Gul'dan was unconscious to secure his power. When Anduin Lothar goes to parlay with him, Doomhammer ambushes and kills him. In the leadup to WarCraft 3, Doomhammer takes the role of mentor figure for Thrall, so he gets retconned into an 'honourable warrior' who was a friend of Durotan's, only became Warchief to free the Horde from Gul'dan's control and defeated Anduin in a one-on-one duel.

So whatever the wiki says is probably the current canon, but that's not how it was back then .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
June 27 2018 06:27 GMT
#14
I honestly feel like the original plot for Warcraft was basically just lots of orcs and humans fighting against each other in some endless struggle. It wasn't until WC3 when Blizz started introducing the "end of the world" concepts to drive it up to an epic scale, and I feel that, to some degree, that ramp up of drama naturally drowned out the previous cannon. And then apparently WoW went off the deep end by WoD (I never played them, just heard about how terrible the stories were).

I would say that even StarCraft follows this sort of model as well; we had missions that were entirely "Oh hey, these guys are threats, let's eliminate them" mixed with a bunch of cerebrates and judicators and military officers arguing with each other. Though there was an epic background plot about the Overmind taking over everything and ending all life as we know it, the key points that moved the story forward were everyday struggles. Fast forward to SC2, and the campaign is filled with an almost sickening obsession with preventing the end of the world.

In other words, I don't think Blizzard envisioned how far they would go in this universe at the time, and with their first couple of games, they were more than willing to just let tribal politics and objective-based bloodshed be primary motivators in the storyline. The increasingly dramatic vision for Blizzard more or less forced them to retcon or redeem characters who might have been seen as power-hungry, bloodlusted, or otherwise unlikeable in the past to create a better storyline.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-27 22:42:28
June 27 2018 21:57 GMT
#15
On June 27 2018 15:27 EsportsJohn wrote:
I would say that even StarCraft follows this sort of model as well; we had missions that were entirely "Oh hey, these guys are threats, let's eliminate them" mixed with a bunch of cerebrates and judicators and military officers arguing with each other. Though there was an epic background plot about the Overmind taking over everything and ending all life as we know it, the key points that moved the story forward were everyday struggles. Fast forward to SC2, and the campaign is filled with an almost sickening obsession with preventing the end of the world.


I agree, which is also why I think Legacy of the Void is the worst campaign by far. Even with the threat of the Zerg wiping out all life in the original, they were never the actual focus in the Terran and Protoss campaigns, instead their arrival was the disrupting event that caused the status quo to change, and the story was actually about how the Terrans and Protoss dealt with it. Slaying the Overmind in The Fall is just cleanup, the dramatic stakes are resolved when Aldaris admits the failures of the Conclave and pledges their support for Tassadar's cause. It's important that in The Fall, the conflict between the Judicator and the Dark Templar happen despite the existential threat of the Zerg, because it shows how important that division is to them, and how much of an achievement it is to bridge it. By contrast, in Legacy of the Void all conflicts are merely set aside because the omnicidal threat takes precedence over everything. Nothing else matters. And since the omnicidal threat was created for SC2, once it gets taken care of, you realise that since nothing else mattered, nothing else really happened.

EDIT: I'm getting way off topic, I'm sorry .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 28 2018 04:01 GMT
#16
On June 28 2018 06:57 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 15:27 EsportsJohn wrote:
I would say that even StarCraft follows this sort of model as well; we had missions that were entirely "Oh hey, these guys are threats, let's eliminate them" mixed with a bunch of cerebrates and judicators and military officers arguing with each other. Though there was an epic background plot about the Overmind taking over everything and ending all life as we know it, the key points that moved the story forward were everyday struggles. Fast forward to SC2, and the campaign is filled with an almost sickening obsession with preventing the end of the world.


I agree, which is also why I think Legacy of the Void is the worst campaign by far. Even with the threat of the Zerg wiping out all life in the original, they were never the actual focus in the Terran and Protoss campaigns, instead their arrival was the disrupting event that caused the status quo to change, and the story was actually about how the Terrans and Protoss dealt with it. Slaying the Overmind in The Fall is just cleanup, the dramatic stakes are resolved when Aldaris admits the failures of the Conclave and pledges their support for Tassadar's cause. It's important that in The Fall, the conflict between the Judicator and the Dark Templar happen despite the existential threat of the Zerg, because it shows how important that division is to them, and how much of an achievement it is to bridge it. By contrast, in Legacy of the Void all conflicts are merely set aside because the omnicidal threat takes precedence over everything. Nothing else matters. And since the omnicidal threat was created for SC2, once it gets taken care of, you realise that since nothing else mattered, nothing else really happened.

EDIT: I'm getting way off topic, I'm sorry .

The worst part of the SC2 story was twisting Raynor/Kerrigan into a love story(zerg episode 4 i believe in the original proves that wouldnt be the case) Or somehow making the overminds entire goal to be a righteous one to save the galaxy? like okay
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 04 2018 05:04 GMT
#17
Nice article. Learned a lot about Yrel and how the community reacted.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
Wardi Spring Cup
Zoun vs ShoWTimELIVE!
Ryung vs TBD
IntoTheiNu 868
WardiTV732
TKL 207
Rex114
Ryung 94
LiquipediaDiscussion
Escore
10:00
Week 6
escodisco2247
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 207
Rex 114
Ryung 94
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 45519
Sea 6641
Horang2 1526
Bisu 1355
firebathero 936
Mini 518
Light 364
Killer 317
EffOrt 304
Stork 291
[ Show more ]
Soma 266
actioN 234
Hyuk 225
Pusan 186
ggaemo 168
BeSt 137
Zeus 132
Soulkey 131
ZerO 113
Hyun 86
Rush 80
hero 70
ToSsGirL 60
Dewaltoss 58
HiyA 41
soO 40
Sea.KH 38
[sc1f]eonzerg 38
Sharp 37
Backho 33
910 30
Free 28
Shine 22
Barracks 18
scan(afreeca) 16
Larva 15
Bale 14
sorry 13
Sacsri 13
IntoTheRainbow 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
GoRush 11
Noble 11
Terrorterran 11
Icarus 7
Rock 3
Dota 2
Gorgc4729
syndereN123
XcaliburYe122
qojqva24
League of Legends
Reynor84
Counter-Strike
zeus828
allub225
edward151
Other Games
gofns13959
singsing2270
B2W.Neo1153
hiko630
DeMusliM474
Lowko348
KnowMe148
monkeys_forever114
Mew2King81
ArmadaUGS52
djWHEAT42
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1446
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 16
• iHatsuTV 11
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3054
• TFBlade773
Other Games
• WagamamaTV310
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
2h 50m
Fjant vs Bly
Serral vs Shameless
OSC
8h 50m
The PiG Daily
9h 50m
Maru vs Rogue
TBD vs Classic
herO vs Solar
ByuN vs Solar
Replay Cast
10h 50m
CranKy Ducklings
20h 50m
RSL Revival
20h 50m
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
21h 50m
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
SC Evo League
23h 50m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 1h
BSL
1d 5h
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
RSL Revival
1d 20h
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
1d 21h
BSL
2 days
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
Escore Tournament S2: W6
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.