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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 08 2015 16:07 GMT
#141
Anyone else get the sense that two-warrior comps are pretty damned strong in the current meta?
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
July 08 2015 16:14 GMT
#142
Which warrior pairings specifically? Like a true tank and a bruiser tank?
Wat
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 08 2015 17:32 GMT
#143
On July 09 2015 01:14 Tenks wrote:
Which warrior pairings specifically? Like a true tank and a bruiser tank?

I'm not sure it matters for the most part. Most warriors do at least a decent amount of sustained damage if built for it.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 18:11:17
July 08 2015 18:10 GMT
#144
On July 09 2015 02:32 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 01:14 Tenks wrote:
Which warrior pairings specifically? Like a true tank and a bruiser tank?

I'm not sure it matters for the most part. Most warriors do at least a decent amount of sustained damage if built for it.



Johanna+Chen best combo

About the meta thing...I don't know if that is going to end up being the "standard" team composition but it definitely seems strong. Still, I think most team comps are viable really.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
July 08 2015 20:15 GMT
#145
On July 09 2015 02:32 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 01:14 Tenks wrote:
Which warrior pairings specifically? Like a true tank and a bruiser tank?

I'm not sure it matters for the most part. Most warriors do at least a decent amount of sustained damage if built for it.


Yup I like double warrior now. The reason being that burst heal is much harder to come by (because of malf, nerf on shield and promote which make tassadar and tyrande less attractice too) but burst has hardly gone down, only blood for blood basically.
Double warrior let's you sustain with the massive heal of malf easier without dying to burst. It's just quite dangerous for 'classic' 3 dps, 1 heal, 1 tank comps with that healer lacking burst and some heroes that are very good against this comp like zeratul being good.

If you get rehgar (or uther perhaps but I don't like him atm) I still like the more traditional comp though, especially if you got one muradin/johanna who can solo tank quite well. If you run malf I like a second tank usually involving tyrael or anub'arak.

Bruisers are in a rough spot, zeratul is awesome as melee assassin with his autoattack build but the heroes like illidan, kerrigan and the butcher are tough to use well i think. Just so squishy if you don't get rehgar and don't like picking an off-support like tassadar now to help them out unless im facing zeratul. Tyrande + butcher is interesting though and quite the roaming squad.



Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 21:07:33
July 08 2015 21:01 GMT
#146
Picked Nazeebo back up since Anub is nerfed *to the ground*. On a 8 game winstreak (HL, single digits), what's up? He didn't get buffed at all except the jumping spiders fix. Only one game I didn't top hero damage, and that's because I died during core push.


My first thought is that too many of the newer players/heros just aren't used to countering zombies that *aren't* a ring around one guy. I (and most other good) Nazeebos use them more like Forcefields from sc2 - control where the enemy can go. So many KT/Jaina/Butcher will dive too far into a teamfight and then just get fielded out and die, seems like that never used to happen when he was en vogue.

Other thoughts - I really, really like Thrall now. His synergy with poke comps is just awesome and he's vicious in triplemelee setups. Also, we've started calling The Butcher "The Feeder". I'd say 80% of the people I've see him just run in and die far more often than is excusable.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 08 2015 21:49 GMT
#147
BAN WAVE

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/18300091763
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44214 Posts
July 08 2015 22:01 GMT
#148
On July 09 2015 06:49 Heyoka wrote:
BAN WAVE

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/18300091763


That's good right? Blizzard will try to get rid of people who just afk all game long? I haven't heard of any actual hackers/ hacks yet though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 22:05:51
July 08 2015 22:01 GMT
#149
This is the email people are getting:

* * NOTICE OF ACCOUNT CLOSURE * * *
Closure - Heroes of the Storm License Violation: Exploitation/Abuse of Game Mechanics
This includes exploiting game design, advertising exploits to other players, automating any aspect of gameplay, or using an unauthorized cheat program (also known as a hack). These programs provide player benefits normally not achievable in Heroes of the Storm. Such benefits include, but are not limited to, increased map visibility, abuse of connection speed, game crashes, etc. These unauthorized programs harm the competitive environment because they offer an unfair advantage over other players and supersede the intended limits of the game.
The above game license has been closed following this violation of our in-game policies. As the account holder, you are responsible for the activity associated with this game license. The abuse that took place was an unacceptable detriment to other players and the quality of our service as a whole. Even if this is the result of account sharing, the account owner is still be held responsible for the penalty because of the impact it had on the game environment.
No compensation has been provided for real money spent on this account. This action includes a permanent ban on Heroes of the Storm access. If you wish to play Heroes of the Storm you may do so only with a new or separate Battle.net account.
We don't take this decision lightly. Our team issued this closure only after a careful review of relevant evidence. Our support staff will not overturn these closures and may not respond to appeals. For information, see our article: http://www.battle.net/support/article/6741
Regards,
Customer Support Blizzard Entertainment http://battle.net/support


Get rekt. it's their fault anyway, who needs maphacks when you got superior map awareness.

On July 09 2015 07:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 06:49 Heyoka wrote:
BAN WAVE

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/18300091763


That's good right? Blizzard will try to get rid of people who just afk all game long? I haven't heard of any actual hackers/ hacks yet though.



They are constantly banning/warning/suspending people who are toxic or AFK, look in reddit and the battle.net forums for people complaining about that xD. But this is specifically regarding to more serious stuff.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44214 Posts
July 08 2015 22:03 GMT
#150
On July 09 2015 07:01 [Phantom] wrote:
This is the email people are getting:

Show nested quote +
* * NOTICE OF ACCOUNT CLOSURE * * *
Closure - Heroes of the Storm License Violation: Exploitation/Abuse of Game Mechanics
This includes exploiting game design, advertising exploits to other players, automating any aspect of gameplay, or using an unauthorized cheat program (also known as a hack). These programs provide player benefits normally not achievable in Heroes of the Storm. Such benefits include, but are not limited to, increased map visibility, abuse of connection speed, game crashes, etc. These unauthorized programs harm the competitive environment because they offer an unfair advantage over other players and supersede the intended limits of the game.
The above game license has been closed following this violation of our in-game policies. As the account holder, you are responsible for the activity associated with this game license. The abuse that took place was an unacceptable detriment to other players and the quality of our service as a whole. Even if this is the result of account sharing, the account owner is still be held responsible for the penalty because of the impact it had on the game environment.
No compensation has been provided for real money spent on this account. This action includes a permanent ban on Heroes of the Storm access. If you wish to play Heroes of the Storm you may do so only with a new or separate Battle.net account.
We don't take this decision lightly. Our team issued this closure only after a careful review of relevant evidence. Our support staff will not overturn these closures and may not respond to appeals. For information, see our article: http://www.battle.net/support/article/6741
Regards,
Customer Support Blizzard Entertainment http://battle.net/support


Get rekt. it's their fault anyway, who needs maphacks when you got superior map awareness.

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 07:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 09 2015 06:49 Heyoka wrote:
BAN WAVE

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/18300091763


That's good right? Blizzard will try to get rid of people who just afk all game long? I haven't heard of any actual hackers/ hacks yet though.



They constantly are banning/warning/suspending people who are toxic or AFK, look in reddit and the battle.net forums for people complaining about that xD. But this is specifically regarding to more serious stuff.

People are actually using maphacks?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
July 08 2015 22:04 GMT
#151
Not anymore
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
July 08 2015 22:36 GMT
#152
2 of my friends got banned and we have no idea why. We're all average players that know each other from other Blizzard games, we spend money from time to time, we usually play together, none of us got suspended/banned in years, etc.

Now ofc I can't guarantee for anyone but myself... still, it seems weird. It would be useful to know at least what caused the ban other than the generic "abuse of game mechanics".
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
July 08 2015 22:38 GMT
#153
There was a dude on reddit that said his friends got banned for doing AFK stuff

A lot of my friends got banned too. They sent a ticket and got told they got banned because they went afk and attacked something all 30 seconds or so. I think blizzard categorised this as exploiting game mechanics and therefore so many got banned without using actual exploits.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Big G
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy835 Posts
July 08 2015 22:48 GMT
#154
Yeah I read it but that's not the case... I mean, it's possible that someone went AFK for a few seconds for a phone call, or AFK for the last 30 seconds of a bad game (I did it myself a couple times for sure). Repeatedly circumventing the AFK detection seems highly unlikely though, at least I never saw it in the hundreds of games played together.

wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
July 08 2015 23:49 GMT
#155
Just realized that Thrall's Sundering grants him a stack of Frostwolf Resilience for each enemy hit. I was wondering how I went from almost zero to 100 in less than a second without Rehgar, or any healer for that matter, on my team. Shit had me befuddled until I watched the replay.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 09 2015 00:25 GMT
#156
On July 09 2015 07:48 Big G wrote:
Yeah I read it but that's not the case... I mean, it's possible that someone went AFK for a few seconds for a phone call, or AFK for the last 30 seconds of a bad game (I did it myself a couple times for sure). Repeatedly circumventing the AFK detection seems highly unlikely though, at least I never saw it in the hundreds of games played together.




I saw it happen a few times. But so far only one Hammer player did it from level 7 on where the person thought we lost, until the end where we won. Hope that fellar got banned.

Usually people only keep it up for a few minutes before they regret being assholes. Or realize that the other 4 players will continue to play and report them.
That behavior kinda vanished the last months. Maybe the block chat button at the beginning of the game does something useful. Apart from creating more players that do their thing even at high level.

Have an Azmodan on the Spider map yay, add in a Jaina that cannot be contacted, while she happily cleans wave after wave with her arcane intellect talent. The result is a stomp with Azmodan getting a grand total of 80 stacks.

Maybe the crying about bans everywhere helped aton. I mean there were even gold farming bots in Beta, haven't seen those in a while as well. Though I don't play at night anymore lol.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 09 2015 01:24 GMT
#157
On July 09 2015 01:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 00:02 Larkin wrote:
Why would Blizzard put Blackheart's Bay back into rotation when obviously everyone hates it and doesn't want to play it? We wanted Dragon Shire and Garden of Terror etc back in rotation, not Bay ;;


BB is my favorite map and DS and GoT are my two least favorites.


Why?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44214 Posts
July 09 2015 03:12 GMT
#158
On July 09 2015 10:24 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 01:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 09 2015 00:02 Larkin wrote:
Why would Blizzard put Blackheart's Bay back into rotation when obviously everyone hates it and doesn't want to play it? We wanted Dragon Shire and Garden of Terror etc back in rotation, not Bay ;;


BB is my favorite map and DS and GoT are my two least favorites.


Why?


I feel like GoT is largely redundant when it comes to gathering seeds, because it's just like gathering HM skulls but there's no confrontation (most of the time, one team goes one terror and the other team goes the other terror). And I just get tired of the final objective being "Summon Giant X", whether it's a DK or a Terror or even an Immortal. At least with BB and CH, there are forced battles over objectives that focus on different things.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
July 09 2015 08:52 GMT
#159
Double warrior is good because most of the time warriors bring CC. CC is key to secure kills, the better the players are the more you need CC to actually finish that guy and not let him escape at 10%hp.

I'm sure you've had these games where you have on paper a great teamfighting comp but you just lose lanes to a roam/gank squad full of cc and feel like you never had a chance even if the game drags on a bit because you are 2/3 levels behind. This game snowballs VERY fast and early kills can quickly get you a level lead which can mean game over if you don't stop grouping.

Tanks are also more beefy and most of the meta tanks have good escapes so they are less likely to feed early.

On an other note, protip of the day : play Rehgar, max chain heal (every talent related to chain heal, don't even take healing totem at lvl 1, you need the 45 mana chain heal) and acquire free elo. He's also a soft counter to the imba KT because he is basically the only healer that can heal his gigantic poke aoe. At level 16 you have a 45 mana chain heal that bounces to 4 targets on a 6second cooldown. Play it before it's nerfed !
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
July 09 2015 09:45 GMT
#160
On July 09 2015 12:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 10:24 Larkin wrote:
On July 09 2015 01:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 09 2015 00:02 Larkin wrote:
Why would Blizzard put Blackheart's Bay back into rotation when obviously everyone hates it and doesn't want to play it? We wanted Dragon Shire and Garden of Terror etc back in rotation, not Bay ;;


BB is my favorite map and DS and GoT are my two least favorites.


Why?


I feel like GoT is largely redundant when it comes to gathering seeds, because it's just like gathering HM skulls but there's no confrontation (most of the time, one team goes one terror and the other team goes the other terror). And I just get tired of the final objective being "Summon Giant X", whether it's a DK or a Terror or even an Immortal. At least with BB and CH, there are forced battles over objectives that focus on different things.


I understand the sentiment. But BB plays so horribly imo. The gimmick - free, indefensible siege damage - is really irritating to me; I have this issue with Sky Temple too, but at least there you can continuously contest the temples.

BB's design, with the multiple lanes in mid etc just adds to it being a bit of a clusterfuck. I'm not massively keen on Cursed Hollow for the horrible fights around the tributes for the same reason. But then again I play ranged assassin/specialists pretty much exclusively, so maybe that's why.
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