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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Butcher seems overly strong in some situations though. The fact you can't avoid his charge is brutal. He can kill pretty much anyone in 4/5 hits. I'm also noticing more people playing tanks and even fewer people playing healers; I think I encountered LiLi twice and Rehgar once, and that's it. Only Tyrande seems common, and that's just rotation, and she's not even a proper healer. But more tanks is nice. Playing assassins when no one is tanking is a nightmare. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
On July 06 2015 07:01 FeyFey wrote: freaking love the buff on Hydra. It just plows through a minion wave now. One reason less to use Banelings at all. Also Hydras are good at last hitting, can even leave a lane early now and not lose the full exp of a wave. yeah zagara is even sweeter now especially with all the other dps'ers that outclassed her basically being nerfed a bit. Great pick on some maps. | ||
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yotis
Czech Republic652 Posts
On July 06 2015 13:48 Larkin wrote: Been tearing shit up with my friend as Raynor/Azmo. Played all day, won 21, lost 4. The pushing power in this combo is unreal. The new map is nice too. I'm glad Mines and Bay are gone, but I think having only 4 maps in the rotation is gonna get stale fast. I'd also love for there to be a "veto last map played" option so I don't have to play 3 30 minute+ games on Cursed Hollow in a row. Butcher seems overly strong in some situations though. The fact you can't avoid his charge is brutal. He can kill pretty much anyone in 4/5 hits. I'm also noticing more people playing tanks and even fewer people playing healers; I think I encountered LiLi twice and Rehgar once, and that's it. Only Tyrande seems common, and that's just rotation, and she's not even a proper healer. But more tanks is nice. Playing assassins when no one is tanking is a nightmare. Today I played against Nazeebo/Azmodan/Sylvanas, and even though they didn't have healer on their team they won the game easily. Yep I can see Butcher nerfed in the next patch. I'm noticing similar trend in my picks, it's far better to change the outcome of a game by picking solid tank than it is by picking a healer. Anyone can pick Lili and afk/heal (I hate her though, anytime my teammate picks her I want to leave). This patch I like Reghar more, but Malf is best healer by far this patch IMO. Brightwing was hit by the nerf hammer too hard ... | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
B4B got even better against tanks on assassins, it just doesn't work for bursting down someone anymore with your team. Really sad about it. But Spell shield is the OP talent now. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
It was prepatch when Vikings were really good, and the games had Murky, Vikings, Nazeebo, Azmodan, Zagara and Abathur. It is really hard to deal with them, when you go to Mines for example to take skulls if they see that all of you went there they just keep pushing and destroy whole lane before you even get all of the skulls, and if some of you stay to defend, if it will slow their push significantly, they just get to the Mines and you have to back off. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
Nova is a stupid hero in general. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
I think Nova would do well if they make her independent of gathering power. Zeratul is so much more scary because of this, even if he is more single target based now. Well Nova has no escape and only single target, so its super risky to play her. And if you know you die alot ... well the other option was envenom. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On July 07 2015 08:18 FeyFey wrote: omg Tyrande, Muradin and Butcher, why did the other team let that one happen. I think Nova would do well if they make her independent of gathering power. Zeratul is so much more scary because of this, even if he is more single target based now. Well Nova has no escape and only single target, so its super risky to play her. And if you know you die alot ... well the other option was envenom. Zeratul is much scarier than Nova because he is bursting just as good while also have an utility and escape mechanics in his kit. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Just salty Zera is not bound to Gathering Power anymore and a Nova can die to him if not at full health and full stacks. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Also a reason i think heroes like Johanna and anub'arak do so well, if you play with weak players the best way to compensate for their lack of getting xp properly is to do it yourself i feel. Hence i think good laning/clear heroes do better in soloQ. Muradin is the best tank imo in high level play but in soloQ the fact you're randomly left alone to lane can just make it frustrating with him. | ||
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Corgi
United States408 Posts
Everyone whines about heroes they aren't good at dealing with, just look at invis heroes in Dota 2 (at the low bracket where nobody buys dust, wards, etc). | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On July 07 2015 19:44 Corgi wrote: Why do people have a problem with Nova? Because they primarily play Quickmatch and you can't counter her and they aren't very good at dealing with high burst or know how to spot her. Everyone whines about heroes they aren't good at dealing with, just look at invis heroes in Dota 2 (at the low bracket where nobody buys dust, wards, etc). So tassadar isn't considered a counter to Nova? :p | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
With Nova I am usually stuck on a lane every second game in QM and have to get One in the chamber. Its not pretty but a hero without escape shouldn't push a lane anway. In HL I take Nova everytime I am 5th pick and my team can work on their own. Everything else is really risky anyway, because there are many strong counter picks to cloaked heroes. And unlike Zera, Nova relies on being cloaked to do extra damage. Stupid Malf Meta btw. What I like about Nova is her global ult though which doesn't work against an organized team, but for everything less one or 2 will dodge it and create enough time for the rest of my team to run or get a pick off. I hope they will reset the HL alot, really dislike being in the high ranks. To much standard. But the Butcher breaks this up a bit atm. Edit: He talked about Nova being only used in QM. If you pick Tassadar in QM you usually force 4 others into a healer vs non healer game  . | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
https://tempostorm.com/heroes-of-the-storm/talent-calculator/brightwing#8bwI | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On July 07 2015 23:28 Tenks wrote: I still think Brightwing is pretty decent. Usually I like going Z build 1-7 but I was in a game against Murky so I knew I had to take Cleanse at 7 so that would remove a bunch of oomph from the Z build. So I tried out a healing focused build. I actually really, really enjoyed it. It seemed to work out wonderfully and it allowed you to take Cleanse at 7 with no real impact to the build. It will probably be my go-to 1-7 build if I am required to take cleanse in the game. https://tempostorm.com/heroes-of-the-storm/talent-calculator/brightwing#8bwI I like the new BW. I'm not sure that you want her as a solo support. She's probably best combo'd with someone like Tassadar. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
- It's very hard to take a good fight in the narrow corridors around the demonlords - higher level team does more damage, kills demonlord faster - even íf you manage to kill them when they are attacking your demonlord, you cant punish them by taking the objective because the animation pause at 50% health gives them time to respawn - javelin goats push lanes very hard giving you no choice but to defend instead of going for objective, getting you further behind | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
So basically I'd say if you're behind you need to do what is counter-intuative on this map and try and force a fight on your terms next to your Immortal | ||
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