Hero League 101 - Page 2

On May 18 2015 20:32 Solmyr wrote:
I am new to MOBAs, not sure will I stay in HOTS.

Do you play those games with your brain or with your eyes and hands ?

After reading this guide you can assume that you should play the game with your brain - decission making, picks, learning the heroes, counter picking. We can call it knowledge about game and meta.

But one of the first sentences looks like this :
"Let me just get this out of the way and state the obvious: you need to be able to control your heroes confidently and precisely to have any hope of being any good at HotS."

I my opinion you don't do it with your brain but with your hands-eye coordination. If you suck at this than all the knowledge is more or less pointless. Becouse you just can't execute what you want.

Am I right ?

So I wonder about how much you can really improve in this game and if you really doing this by knowing more than your opponents?

On May 19 2015 02:30 Solmyr wrote:
Sadly I am not one of them. I think people that came here from SCII are matched with warcraft/diablo crowd now and think that those guys fail to understant what's this game is all about. I think if you aren't lvl 5-10 and not trolling it extremly easy game to grasp.
But if you miss your skillshots you just aren't good enough on mechanics side. And I am not sure this can be changed much. Or maybe I am pesymistic.
In other words I suck at Jaina

On May 19 2015 01:01 RouaF wrote:


In short : hots is different from other mobas because it is less micro focused and more macro focused.
Thats why I think its easier for rts players to get into it.

On May 19 2015 07:20 poboxy wrote:
It may be obvious to you but a lot of people new to Mobas have no idea what a tank is. Nice post though.

On May 19 2015 07:20 poboxy wrote:
It may be obvious to you but a lot of people new to Mobas have no idea what a tank is. Nice post though.

On May 19 2015 07:50 xDaunt wrote:

We have a beginner's guide coming soon. This article is meant for players who are familiar with the basics.

On May 19 2015 02:55 StayPhrosty wrote:


landing skillshots is largely a function of experience. you must play a lot to learn to predict which direction players will run in to dodge a blizzard or frost bolt. the thing is, you might pull off a clutch duel once in a while with proper mechanics, but it's rare that it will win you the game. proper decision making, however, wins games all the time.

chosing to take a risky boss right as the enemy team respawns? your team is likely to get aced, the enemy team has a good chance to steal the boss, and your core is practically done for. missed a frost bolt? well that's 400 dmg missed.

the main thing is that physical mechanics are much more objective for new players, whereas map objectives and decision making is far more subjective. when you're not totally confident on where your team should be, there are often multiple possibilities. when you're landing a hook with stitches, well, it's often much clearer what you should or shouldn't have done.

On May 18 2015 22:07 xDaunt wrote:
I definitely think a case can be made that Rehgar would be a good pick for my pop quiz. He is the superior healer, and he does have Blood for Blood. If Uther was unavailable, Rehgar would be the clear second choice. I still do not think that he is the best pick. Uther simply provides more utility -- particularly because this comp has an Illidan. I've had a bunch of games where an Uther+Illidan combo straight up carried the game by themselves. As for Brightwing, she would not be a good pick. She doesn't provide enough burst healing to support a dive comp. Depending upon enemy team comp, you might be able to get away with it, but it just isn't a good idea.

EDIT: And as for the tip about the Boss, I purposefully decided not to expand on when to take the boss. Boss timing is really dependent upon the map. Different considerations apply to taking a boss on Cursed Hollow than on Tomb of the Spider Queen. And there are also special considerations depending upon which heroes you have on your team. A very different calculation applies when you have a Robo-goblin Gazlowe on your team. I felt it would be better not to go too far down that rabbit hole in this article.

On May 19 2015 09:03 dae wrote:


In my opinion, Brightwing is by far the best healer for that comp. There are a few reasons for this.

1. You do not have a good Illiden comp. Adding one healer will not make it a good Illidan comp, as you have two high burst/damage dps. Uther alone will not provide the CC/healing to make Illidan shine.

2. Brightwing's AoE knockback ult if timed correctly with meta, and the amount of burst damage available on your team with Jaina/Falstad will win a fight. This is also much easier to land.

3. Rehgar makes your team have a massive lack of CC... Comps with just damage don't tend to work that well.

4. It denies Brightwing to the other team, and she is very strong against Illidan.

This also varies massively with what heroes the other team has, and what map you are playing on.

Also, at the point that your team was picking Illidan, I would be gently suggesting a Tyrande/Tassadar pick to make it a good Illidan comp, instead of letting it get to the point where you don't have a pick to make the comp good. That comp is not very good no matter what you pick.

On May 18 2015 20:40 Markwerf wrote:


Even without the broken Lili answer you can make a valid argument for rehgar or brightwing, which fit better than uther I think.
Uther as solo healer is often a bit little in hero league where having good sustain on your team helps a lot. Players will oftne commit to long fights and many players often don't sustain themselves properly, solo uther has problems here while rehgar or brightwing does not as much.
Rehgar has better burst heal and sustains much more, plus adds a nice blood for blood to nuke a hero. A slightly better choice i'd say. Brightwing also is an option to provide even better sustain and have a bit of splitpushing capability, quite good too depending the map. With so much chase potential and already slow through jaina I don't even think you'd need uther's stun as much here, depending though on what they have to interrupt.

Either way the information for the quiz would be lacking but the answer is definately not clearly Uther here and as such a poor choice of quiz for such an article.

Doesn't take anything away from the rest of the article though which is solid. The general rule about bosses also has plenty of exceptions but as a general rule it isn't bad.

Edit:
One thing I disagree about is the emphasis on not focussing the tank. This is often stated but I don't think it's neccesarily true, if you need to go deeper to reach the backline it's often not even worth the risk even if you could. Besides tanks in this game are not that much tankier than other heroes, and most importantly most do not have things that makes damaging them much less efficient. Sure tanks have a much higher hp to damage ratio and are thus less ideal to target but most don't have anything that let them take reduced damage or heal more efficiently (amplified healing and hardened skin are the big exceptions but until lvl 20 you rarely see those effects). Some tanks aren't bad to target, diablo in this patch for example and many comps even run semi-tanks / bruisers now like tyrael and anub'arak which can be quite fine to focus.
The thing mostly is, if you go slightly deeper to reach their backline, that backline will typically be able to reach you. And their tank will often get in the middle of your backline instead of at the edge as a result, this is often not that ideal. Also holding the trigger on abilities can be good but many abilities in this game are on a very short cooldown and it's often just better to fire it off then to wait for a good oppurtunity to hit their backline.