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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-15 02:01:02
April 15 2017 02:00 GMT
#2661
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 15 2017 14:10 GMT
#2662
On April 15 2017 05:43 JacobShock wrote:
please fucking fix Val she is not fun, never was and never will be. I can't imagine what it must be like being a new player and deciding to play QM for the first time.


Val is piece a cake, compared to player killer Nova from the good old days. There will always be a Nova and there will always be a Gazlow. And also a Laynor.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 15 2017 22:54 GMT
#2663
On April 15 2017 23:10 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2017 05:43 JacobShock wrote:
please fucking fix Val she is not fun, never was and never will be. I can't imagine what it must be like being a new player and deciding to play QM for the first time.


Val is piece a cake, compared to player killer Nova from the good old days. There will always be a Nova and there will always be a Gazlow. And also a Laynor.


Say it ain't so..
"Right on" - Morrow
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 22 2017 14:36 GMT
#2664
Slax88 whoever you are, lighten up and don't play hero league for a bit.
"Right on" - Morrow
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
April 25 2017 17:29 GMT
#2665
Had an 8 death ETC tell me and the rest of the team that we lacked game-sense when asking him to simply follow us around instead of engaging into enemies whenever he saw them... My favorite part of the game was when he 2-man mosh'ed their tanks right on top of a circle near their immortal only to get interrupted by the stun 0.2 secs after and then complained that we lacked burst since we hadn't killed them. Plat 5 is an interesting place which I hope to never have to see again after this season :/
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
April 26 2017 04:22 GMT
#2666
Haha so I bought something in the shop the exact moment a match was found so then I got DCed and now have leaver status
not even mad
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 26 2017 17:35 GMT
#2667
Blizz put me doing placements with silvers in solo Q and I literally don't know how to win. Last game I told team what to do at every step to win and they all did the opposite, died alone all the time and flamed me.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
April 28 2017 14:37 GMT
#2668
On April 27 2017 02:35 Ej_ wrote:
Blizz put me doing placements with silvers in solo Q and I literally don't know how to win. Last game I told team what to do at every step to win and they all did the opposite, died alone all the time and flamed me.

Don't do the right thing, your team wont and you will be alone. You have to think of your teammates as a resource. They are all essentially tanks with varying health and damage (which you can never count on). So, you never commit to the same thing they are doing, but be close. If they are losing a fight, let them and get value. If they are winning a fight, make sure they take minimal losses or get value elsewhere. If they are in an even fight, win it. Lane clearing is essential (for value elsewhere).

Trading 1 for 1 is almost always worth it. With no dead its 1/5 of your team that is you. With two dead, you are a third of the team. Don't try to save people. It puts you at risk. Try to capitalize on their death if you can.

Oh, and don't talk to them, turn off chat even. Anything helpful you say is going to be ignored more than listened to and if they listen, it is more likely to be taken as an insult to their abilities and start a flame war.

Then as people start to behave sensibly higher up, you start ease out of doing this and doing the right thing instead.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-28 15:16:49
April 28 2017 15:16 GMT
#2669
It kind of depends though. Do as much as you can alone safely. The only mistake is to either die alone or accidentally get your teammates killed because they are a group of 4 alone.

Using teammates as bait can be very effective too.
Don't Panic
h41fgod
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden377 Posts
April 28 2017 15:25 GMT
#2670
On April 29 2017 00:16 MotherFox wrote:
It kind of depends though. Do as much as you can alone safely. The only mistake is to either die alone or accidentally get your teammates killed because they are a group of 4 alone.

Using teammates as bait can be very effective too.

Yes, be close enough to intervene quickly if possible. Bait is often all they are good for.

You can also carry hard as a support by being proactive and following them around. The other team should be around the same level, and if your side does not die, they just have to win eventually.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-13 16:54:04
May 13 2017 16:43 GMT
#2671
a depressing small look into my hero league life.

first game, dude first pick Nova and the rest of the team picks double warrior and double support, he ends up having lowest DPS and rages at the team for not doing the right thing. Also for me going taunt, when the only other warrior we have is a Sonya and the fact that Tracer is on the other team, but okay buddy. Thanks for the loss.

Second game: Someone suggests Vikings, and since I have 200+ viking games with around 65-70 winrate I think yay. So I pick them. Then the rest of the team picks Artanis, Dehaka, Varian and Brightwing. We have no range. And then the team rages on me, saying the loss is my fault. Well except Dehaka who defends me. In reality Varian was last pick and supposed to pick range DPS of some sort, but yeah okay, my fault.

Third game: A good game, but we just lose on hanamura because we are worse at minding and splitting payloads. I honestly don't have much of a problem with this game, the other team just played better. Still yet another loss sucks.

I don't know if I'm just shit or unlucky, either way my 70% winrate after 20 games have turned to 45% and my climb to plat 4 is gone as I'm now drowning in gold 2. Tell me I'm not only one here. This game does not reward effort from 1 player if the rest of the team don't even try. The third game I can live with, but the other two kills me inside. I've told myself I'll now only play 3 hero league games each day, but when I end up losing all 3 I just want to uninstall and never touch this god forsaken game again. I need a hobby. it just seems so unfair to me when I watch a lot of my friends make it to diamond and I think and play at just about the same level as them. Whatever, blizzard don't seem to give two fucks about players like me who inside are really try hard and just want good games.

I tried posting something simple, decently articulated and none rude/angry on the heroes of the storm youtube page, but it just got deleted.
"Right on" - Morrow
Midseasons
Profile Joined February 2017
United States48 Posts
May 13 2017 16:53 GMT
#2672
I got called a piece-of-shit Varian on Hanamura. "Don't you know camps don't do anything on this map"

"We need to defend our payload with all 5" But they're pushing their own, and also they're level 13 and we're level 9, guys "We're only levels behind because you keep going off into the lanes and wasting time killing minions. The point of this map is the payload, if we push it we gain experience"

There was a weirdly bright moment when they said "Alright, fucker, we'll do it your way. Ping us where you want us to go since we've already lost this game thanks to you." Whereupon we wound up reaching 16 before them and wiping them twice. But then my teammates turned on each other, arguing over who had the most hero damage, and then they started charging in 1v5 to pad their stats.

I'm finally starting to tilt when I see Hanamura. I don't think the map is objectively bad, really. I'm not even convinced it needs tweaks until after people figure it out. But god, is it painful to see people refuse to figure it out.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
May 13 2017 16:58 GMT
#2673
On May 14 2017 01:53 Midseasons wrote:
I got called a piece-of-shit Varian on Hanamura. "Don't you know camps don't do anything on this map"

"We need to defend our payload with all 5" But they're pushing their own, and also they're level 13 and we're level 9, guys "We're only levels behind because you keep going off into the lanes and wasting time killing minions. The point of this map is the payload, if we push it we gain experience"

There was a weirdly bright moment when they said "Alright, fucker, we'll do it your way. Ping us where you want us to go since we've already lost this game thanks to you." Whereupon we wound up reaching 16 before them and wiping them twice. But then my teammates turned on each other, arguing over who had the most hero damage, and then they started charging in 1v5 to pad their stats.

I'm finally starting to tilt when I see Hanamura. I don't think the map is objectively bad, really. I'm not even convinced it needs tweaks until after people figure it out. But god, is it painful to see people refuse to figure it out.


Yeah, when I see that map inside I always think "Alright, time to flip that coin" because people are just running around like headless chickens. Sometimes I wonder if only 1/3 of hots players actually get a mini map.
"Right on" - Morrow
Midseasons
Profile Joined February 2017
United States48 Posts
May 13 2017 17:16 GMT
#2674
On May 14 2017 01:58 JacobShock wrote:
[Yeah, when I see that map inside I always think "Alright, time to flip that coin" because people are just running around like headless chickens. Sometimes I wonder if only 1/3 of hots players actually get a mini map.


It's funny you mention that! The Butcher on my team literally said the words: "All the camps give are vision, that's not important on this map."
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 09:33:51
May 18 2017 09:31 GMT
#2675
The 2 worst maps, hanamura and braxis are the ones you are forced to play the most in QM now.

And you never ever see blackheart or dragon shire or tomb of spider queen. This is really stupid.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
May 18 2017 13:17 GMT
#2676
On May 18 2017 18:31 dpurple wrote:
The 2 worst maps, hanamura and braxis are the ones you are forced to play the most in QM now.

And you never ever see blackheart or dragon shire or tomb of spider queen. This is really stupid.


I do enjoy how you think braxis is one of the worst maps and yet called for more Blackheart's...
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
May 19 2017 12:51 GMT
#2677
On May 18 2017 22:17 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 18:31 dpurple wrote:
The 2 worst maps, hanamura and braxis are the ones you are forced to play the most in QM now.

And you never ever see blackheart or dragon shire or tomb of spider queen. This is really stupid.


I do enjoy how you think braxis is one of the worst maps and yet called for more Blackheart's...


Blackheart has way more diversity in the games imo.

Braxis is same crap every time and its boring.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
May 21 2017 03:58 GMT
#2678
I am glad I am not the only one that feels hanamura is a cluster in QM, because everyone just runs around doing random stuff. The map itself is fine, maybe in a couple months people will start to get it together.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 21 2017 09:32 GMT
#2679
On May 18 2017 22:17 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 18:31 dpurple wrote:
The 2 worst maps, hanamura and braxis are the ones you are forced to play the most in QM now.

And you never ever see blackheart or dragon shire or tomb of spider queen. This is really stupid.


I do enjoy how you think braxis is one of the worst maps and yet called for more Blackheart's...

BHB at least wasn't over in the fucking lobby. Braxis is not-even-sure-if glorified ARAM.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-21 12:41:15
May 21 2017 12:41 GMT
#2680
The one thing I loathe about BHB is that there is no counter to the objective. All you can hope to do is either get a kill and steal the coins or camp out the turn-in point. And the objective pretty much garantuees a free fort/keep. If you're behind on that map it can be so hard to get back into it because one slip-up and the enemy team gets all your coins and does another turn-in. The map layout itself is fine and the theme is good but I'm not fond of how the objective plays out.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
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