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KUNGJAH
Sweden53 Posts
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Gluttony
Sweden160 Posts
On March 18 2014 20:53 ahswtini wrote: This is essentially what League does though, although there is an overall cap in League so players who have played longer don't get stronger indefinitely. Yes, probably some imbalances, and especially before max level. It will not happen, but it would be cool. I really don't see any amazing ESPORTS potential in this game, I really don't, but seeing some talentrees and good ol' druid talent names made me think it would be cool with like, a pvp 3rd person simulator moba? haha. And LoL does have the out-of-game levelling, but per summoner right? Not per hero? | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
On March 18 2014 21:20 KUNGJAH wrote: i think they would achieve greater success just having the standard moba map/lanes but with blizzard lore heroes. this just looks kinda stupid i dont know.... but i guess this is what to expect of blizzard who only seek our money nowadays yes blizzard just wants our money because they are actually making something a bit more original than just copying what is already out there. nice logic | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 18 2014 21:20 KUNGJAH wrote: i think they would achieve greater success just having the standard moba map/lanes but with blizzard lore heroes. this just looks kinda stupid i dont know.... but i guess this is what to expect of blizzard who only seek our money nowadays They were always looking for money, even when they made Warcraft prime. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. | ||
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KUNGJAH
Sweden53 Posts
On March 18 2014 21:51 GizmoPT wrote: yes blizzard just wants our money because they are actually making something a bit more original than just copying what is already out there. nice logic do you have any insight whatsoever into this game or are you just the typical fanboy defender? this wont compete with neither DotA or LoL in terms of both gameplay or competition it just feels like another way for blizzard to milk money out of their loyal fanboys | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
On March 18 2014 16:50 d00p wrote: Just saw Artosis stream this for a bit. Looks fun. Someone on his team was a BARCODE. Better not let people see your sick HoS builds! It uses your BNet name. So if you're a barcode in Starcraft you're a barcode in HOTS. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On March 18 2014 22:34 KUNGJAH wrote: do you have any insight whatsoever into this game or are you just the typical fanboy defender? this wont compete with neither DotA or LoL in terms of both gameplay or competition it just feels like another way for blizzard to milk money out of their loyal fanboys These posts are simply stupid because milking money is what they always have done and always will do. Their purpose is irrelevant though. Either you like their game or you dont, that is all there is to it. (personally I am disappointed by HotS so far) | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
I don't think adding an rpg element to leveling up your character across matches would bring anything to the game at all. just an advantage for people with more time. Leveling up in league is like putting in the time to be able to play ranked there is no skill tree associated. i don't care what blizzards intentions were. I'm having fun dunking with and upon characters i've enjoyed for more than a decade. Pokemon of the storm next please. | ||
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KUNGJAH
Sweden53 Posts
On March 18 2014 22:28 Plansix wrote: They were always looking for money, even when they made Warcraft prime. Anyone who says otherwise is fooling themselves. sure they didnt do warcraft for the fun of it they are buisness afterall but back then blizzard was really a company of gamers making games for the crowd. they lost that along the way | ||
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KUNGJAH
Sweden53 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 18 2014 23:07 ComaDose wrote: heh that feeling when you go 25-0 and the commentator calls you a hero of the storm. I don't think adding an rpg element to leveling up your character across matches would bring anything to the game at all. just an advantage for people with more time. Leveling up in league is like putting in the time to be able to play ranked there is no skill tree associated. i don't care what blizzards intentions were. I'm having fun dunking with and upon characters i've enjoyed for more than a decade. Pokemon of the storm next please. Haha yeah i always thought a pokemon moba would be #1 instantly (if it is solid) | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
On March 18 2014 23:09 KUNGJAH wrote: sure they didnt do warcraft for the fun of it they are buisness afterall but back then blizzard was really a company of gamers making games for the crowd. they lost that along the way Blizzard isn't what it used to be for sure, they've become a little more greedy over time - what we shall call the Activision effect. Nonetheless, they're not just throwing games at us to milk our wallets. That would be EA, releasing a new CoD every year with barely any new features. Blizzard doesn't release games very often, though their pace has sped up in the last few years, merely because they are offering more different titles. Your reasoning for this situation is flawed though. If they had just been wanting money, they would have done exactly what you said: copy DotA, stamp the Blizzard name on it and use stuff from their franchise without changing anything else. That would be greedy, lazy, and low. However, they did not do that. They went through the effort of thinking and creating very distinct mechanics which don't exist in the MOBA genre, and they built it based on their vision. Of course they want to make money, but they didn't just put that together over a period of 3 months to release it and "milk" it. | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On March 18 2014 23:19 Spaylz wrote: Blizzard isn't what it used to be for sure, they've become a little more greedy over time - what we shall call the Activision effect. Nonetheless, they're not just throwing games at us to milk our wallets. That would be EA, releasing a new CoD every year with barely any new features. Blizzard doesn't release games very often, though their pace has sped up in the last few years, merely because they are offering more different titles. Your reasoning for this situation is flawed though. If they had just been wanting money, they would have done exactly what you said: copy DotA, stamp the Blizzard name on it and use stuff from their franchise without changing anything else. That would be greedy, lazy, and low. However, they did not do that. They went through the effort of thinking and creating very distinct mechanics which don't exist in the MOBA genre, and they built it based on their vision. Of course they want to make money, but they didn't just put that together over a period of 3 months to release it and "milk" it. you realize CoD isn't EA, its Activision. Also known as Activision-Blizzard Never, ever forget that. Blizzard is not the same company it was when it made the games that make us think of Blizzard as Blizzard. Thats why the pace has picked up. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On March 18 2014 21:20 KUNGJAH wrote: i think they would achieve greater success just having the standard moba map/lanes No and no. | ||
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KUNGJAH
Sweden53 Posts
On March 18 2014 23:19 Spaylz wrote: Blizzard isn't what it used to be for sure, they've become a little more greedy over time - what we shall call the Activision effect. Nonetheless, they're not just throwing games at us to milk our wallets. That would be EA, releasing a new CoD every year with barely any new features. Blizzard doesn't release games very often, though their pace has sped up in the last few years, merely because they are offering more different titles. Your reasoning for this situation is flawed though. If they had just been wanting money, they would have done exactly what you said: copy DotA, stamp the Blizzard name on it and use stuff from their franchise without changing anything else. That would be greedy, lazy, and low. However, they did not do that. They went through the effort of thinking and creating very distinct mechanics which don't exist in the MOBA genre, and they built it based on their vision. Of course they want to make money, but they didn't just put that together over a period of 3 months to release it and "milk" it. yeh sure they are building on their vision but to me this seems like a really dumb game. no depth whatsoever thats why i just said i thought they would have more success going with normal moba map/lanes but with their own lore heroes. this will be a game for 10 year olds and the EXTREME casual players... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Yeah, because all the companies made so much trying to make the next WoW. blizzard trying to make LOL or dota 2 is a sure fire way for it to fail. They have to make their own game and beig something new to the table. Otherwise they are just doing what everyone else did for WoW and failed at. Also, I love the comments about how good Blizzard was "back in my day". Because they didn't take a ton of flack when D2 was released and could only run at 800x600. No one freaked out at all about that back in the day. Edit: casual players are people who play candy crush. Blizzard isn't making a game for them. They are making a game for my fianceé, who loves games, but is in a band and don't have the time to learn dota 2 or LoL. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
On March 18 2014 23:07 ComaDose wrote: heh that feeling when you go 25-0 and the commentator calls you a hero of the storm. I don't think adding an rpg element to leveling up your character across matches would bring anything to the game at all. just an advantage for people with more time. Leveling up in league is like putting in the time to be able to play ranked there is no skill tree associated. i don't care what blizzards intentions were. I'm having fun dunking with and upon characters i've enjoyed for more than a decade. Pokemon of the storm next please. There is literally a skill/talent/whatever tree in LoL that levels up until 30. I mean sure "Once you play 100 games everyone is on even footing *exceptforopchampsandrunestralalala*" but I definitely had friends who were pretty annoyed by the fact that they didn't have access to Flash when people dunked them. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On March 18 2014 23:52 hariooo wrote: There is literally a skill/talent/whatever tree in LoL that levels up until 30. I mean sure "Once you play 100 games everyone is on even footing *exceptforopchampsandrunestralalala*" but I definitely had friends who were pretty annoyed by the fact that they didn't have access to Flash when people dunked them. My comment was in response to the suggestion that your characters can have a skill tree that you can level up across games. I just said this is nothing like LoL. Being annoyed that you havn't unlocked everything is pretty lame. go unlock it. If your not lvl30 your probably so bad it doesn't matter anyway. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On March 19 2014 00:00 ComaDose wrote: If your not lvl30 your probably so bad it doesn't matter anyway. If your not challenger your probably so bad it doesn't matter anyway. Only challenger players should get flash. Great logic there. There's literally no world where somebody can be so bad that taking away their best option "doesn't matter". | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
On March 19 2014 00:10 Sn0_Man wrote: If your not challenger your probably so bad it doesn't matter anyway. Only challenger players should get flash. Great logic there. There's literally no world where somebody can be so bad that taking away their best option "doesn't matter". well skill doesn't correlate to unlocking anything at all. I just meant there is a lot more to worry about in your first 100 games or w.e. | ||
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