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On March 18 2014 23:52 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 23:30 Disengaged wrote:On March 18 2014 21:20 KUNGJAH wrote:
i think they would achieve greater success just having the standard moba map/lanes No and no. Yeah, because all the companies made so much trying to make the next WoW. blizzard trying to make LOL or dota 2 is a sure fire way for it to fail. They have to make their own game and beig something new to the table. Otherwise they are just doing what everyone else did for WoW and failed at. Also, I love the comments about how good Blizzard was "back in my day". Because they didn't take a ton of flack when D2 was released and could only run at 800x600. No one freaked out at all about that back in the day. Edit: casual players are people who play candy crush. Blizzard isn't making a game for them. They are making a game for my fianceé, who loves games, but is in a band and don't have the time to learn dota 2 or LoL.
your fiancee is pretty much the definition of a casual
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On March 19 2014 00:24 KUNGJAH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 23:52 Plansix wrote:On March 18 2014 23:30 Disengaged wrote:On March 18 2014 21:20 KUNGJAH wrote:
i think they would achieve greater success just having the standard moba map/lanes No and no. Yeah, because all the companies made so much trying to make the next WoW. blizzard trying to make LOL or dota 2 is a sure fire way for it to fail. They have to make their own game and beig something new to the table. Otherwise they are just doing what everyone else did for WoW and failed at. Also, I love the comments about how good Blizzard was "back in my day". Because they didn't take a ton of flack when D2 was released and could only run at 800x600. No one freaked out at all about that back in the day. Edit: casual players are people who play candy crush. Blizzard isn't making a game for them. They are making a game for my fianceé, who loves games, but is in a band and don't have the time to learn dota 2 or LoL. your fiancee is pretty much the definition of a casual
You just don't get it do you? I get that it's cool to be an elitist, especially when it comes to MOBAs, but he's right. Today's "casual" gamers are moms playing cow clickers on their iPhones. There exists a not insignificant number of people who are into gaming on a level above that, but don't have the time or energy to spend 200 hours getting good at DotA or LoL.
People really need to get over this thing where apparently everyone who plays video games less than they do is a "casual."
Also I get it to a certain extent since this website is mainly SC (and now DotA based) it is somewhat understandable, but I've seen people lash out at games because they aren't competitive enough, or the skill cap is too low, etc. etc. Not every game needs to have the competitive spirit of CS and not every game needs to have the skill cap of BW. There is room for games like HotS to exist in the MOBA genre and Titanfall in the FPS genre. Will Blizzard have a tournament that rivals The International for HotS? Probably not, but it doesn't mean the game can't be fun.
But considering the 1,500 hours I have in DotA, I'll probably stick with that.
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On March 19 2014 00:24 KUNGJAH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 23:52 Plansix wrote:On March 18 2014 23:30 Disengaged wrote:On March 18 2014 21:20 KUNGJAH wrote:
i think they would achieve greater success just having the standard moba map/lanes No and no. Yeah, because all the companies made so much trying to make the next WoW. blizzard trying to make LOL or dota 2 is a sure fire way for it to fail. They have to make their own game and beig something new to the table. Otherwise they are just doing what everyone else did for WoW and failed at. Also, I love the comments about how good Blizzard was "back in my day". Because they didn't take a ton of flack when D2 was released and could only run at 800x600. No one freaked out at all about that back in the day. Edit: casual players are people who play candy crush. Blizzard isn't making a game for them. They are making a game for my fianceé, who loves games, but is in a band and don't have the time to learn dota 2 or LoL. your fiancee is pretty much the definition of a casual
Maybe to try hard kids who think worry about their ELO, but to the majority of people she is someone who likes and plays games. But she played all thee mass effects and loves street fighter, so i think you need to rethink your use of the word.
But that's how it works. The term casual is used to discribe anyone who isn't as hardcore as you. Casual gamers are also people who play games you don't like.
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This thread has become a lot of casuals trying to redefine casual so as not to be casuals.
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On March 19 2014 00:43 crms wrote:
This thread has become a lot of casuals trying to redefine casual so as not to be casuals.
Or try hards trying to make everyone a causal so they can feel so pro. You know, whatever make you feel good.
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On March 19 2014 00:46 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 00:43 crms wrote:
This thread has become a lot of casuals trying to redefine casual so as not to be casuals. Or try hards trying to make everyone a causal so they can feel so pro. You know, whatever make you feel good.
skill level has nothing to do with being casual or hardcore, but if you have real life obligations that make it so you can't play a ton of games, regardless of the game (hots.dota.bw) you're a casual. No need to be offended that your fiancee is casual.
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W0w his fiance is a dirty casual gamer. What are the.legal implications of this?
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On March 19 2014 00:50 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 00:46 Plansix wrote:On March 19 2014 00:43 crms wrote:
This thread has become a lot of casuals trying to redefine casual so as not to be casuals. Or try hards trying to make everyone a causal so they can feel so pro. You know, whatever make you feel good. skill level has nothing to do with being casual or hardcore, but if you have real life obligations that make it so you can't play a ton of games, regardless of the game (hots.dota.bw) you're a casual. No need to be offended that your fiancee is casual.
If you played dota 1 game (~45 minutes) a day, you could probably be at a passable average level (enough to break away from being a "casual".)
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On March 19 2014 00:50 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 00:46 Plansix wrote:On March 19 2014 00:43 crms wrote:
This thread has become a lot of casuals trying to redefine casual so as not to be casuals. Or try hards trying to make everyone a causal so they can feel so pro. You know, whatever make you feel good. skill level has nothing to do with being casual or hardcore, but if you have real life obligations that make it so you can't play a ton of games, regardless of the game (hots.dota.bw) you're a casual. No need to be offended that your fiancee is casual.
No fucking way. Causal is a reductive, insulting termed used by people to belittle others and try to make themselves seem more elite. It's a shitty term used by ass hats who want to make themselves feel better. It is never used as a compliment.
And before you say "but it's true, so it's your fault your insulted", remember that's the same argument is used for more racially charged insults and it doesn't work there either.
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I think the game is fun as hell. I don't understand why the DOTA2/LoL fans are so up in arms by the game. It isn't trying to be either one of them. The game is simple to play and understand and that makes it fun. You don't need to dedicate hours of your life in a trainer to get good at last hit and I highly doubt HOTS will take off in the competitive scene as much as DOTA2 or LoL. But I'm still going to play it more than either of those. Somedays I want to get frustrated at a difficult to play competitive game and for those days I load Starcraft. Some days I want to just chill and not have stress but still play a competitive game. For those days I'll load up HOTS. I also love the fact I don't need to block away at least an hour to load up a game. I'm a guy with a wife and responsibilities. Getting a 3 hour block of time to dedicate to queueing for DOTA2 is rare. But it is pretty easy to find an hour here or there to get a few games of HOTS in.
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On March 18 2014 22:35 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 16:50 d00p wrote:
Just saw Artosis stream this for a bit. Looks fun. Someone on his team was a BARCODE. Better not let people see your sick HoS builds! It uses your BNet name. So if you're a barcode in Starcraft you're a barcode in HOTS.
Yeah ok sure. You mean if you are barcode in BNet? Because it doesn't automatically choose the name you had in your SC2 client before, at least not for me. I guess I didn't realize some people only use barcodes. I thought those were smurfs and their real id still existed somewhere.. seems dumb to me none the less.
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On March 19 2014 01:15 d00p wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2014 22:35 Tenks wrote:On March 18 2014 16:50 d00p wrote:
Just saw Artosis stream this for a bit. Looks fun. Someone on his team was a BARCODE. Better not let people see your sick HoS builds! It uses your BNet name. So if you're a barcode in Starcraft you're a barcode in HOTS. Yeah ok sure. You mean if you are barcode in BNet? Because it doesn't automatically choose the name you had in your SC2 client before, at least not for me. I guess I didn't realize some people only use barcodes. I thought those were smurfs and their real id still existed somewhere.. seems dumb to me none the less.
it Uses your BattleTag not your SC2 name
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I don't understand why we have to deal in absolutes. We're not Siths!
It's not either or, you can be somewhere between a casual and a hardcore player. I'd say someone who plays from time to time to have fun, and only have fun, is a casual. That would be the literal definition of the word: a person looking for some laid back gaming time.
A hardcore player would be someone who either spends a lot of time on the game, or takes it very seriously, or most of the time both. Of course there are several degrees: there are people who play rarely but take it seriously, there are people who play often but only want to have fun, and so on.
The point is, labeling is for morons.
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On March 19 2014 00:13 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 00:10 Sn0_Man wrote:On March 19 2014 00:00 ComaDose wrote:
If your not lvl30 your probably so bad it doesn't matter anyway. If your not challenger your probably so bad it doesn't matter anyway. Only challenger players should get flash. Great logic there. There's literally no world where somebody can be so bad that taking away their best option "doesn't matter". well skill doesn't correlate to unlocking anything at all. I just meant there is a lot more to worry about in your first 100 games or w.e.
Except if you're coming from something like DOTA or SC2 all you feel is that the whole process is retarded, and I mean the dictionary definition of the term.
Imagine transitioning from BW and being forced to play your first 100 matches of SC2 with those beginner maps which is played at a slower speed than normal with destructible rocks everywhere. Sure you should "worry more about your macro son" but it provides a diluted experience.
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wow ppl saying mass effect and lol are not casual games, what the hell are you smoking
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On March 19 2014 02:12 Ottoxlol wrote:
wow ppl saying mass effect and lol are not casual games, what the hell are you smoking
Ok the causal games discussion is dumb and just needs to stop. It's just going to degrade down to people's personal opinion on how "hardcore" a game is. No one gives a shit that you think a game is for "casual kiddies".
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As a long term fan of both LoL and DotA (they're different games, get over it), I'm very much looking forward to HotS. Whether I play a lot or just now and then depends how fun it is to play, but it looks fun and less stressful than other MOBAs which can be a good thing honestly.
Also why does it have to have the same acronym as Heart of the Swarm? Confuses my easily confused brain!
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Blizzard should drop the "of the" out of the name and just call it HS instead so it doesn't conflict.
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On March 19 2014 02:36 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Blizzard should drop the "of the" out of the name and just call it HS instead so it doesn't conflict.
Can't tell if you're joking, but they already have another game abbreviated HS....
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On March 19 2014 02:36 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Blizzard should drop the "of the" out of the name and just call it HS instead so it doesn't conflict.
Give me a minute while I think about what you did there. I'm.... starting..... to.... see it.
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