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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
November 12 2013 23:48 GMT
#1041
On November 13 2013 08:15 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 08:04 MarlieChurphy wrote:
As a person who genuinely never was interested in playing dota or mobas (but have played quite a bit with friends irl etc) this game looks pretty cool. The only problem I have with it is the name, HotS...

There should be no confusion, considering nobody refers to sc2 as 'hots'. They said 'sc2' or 'starcraft'. Also from various threads and comments, people seem to like calling it "Heroes" anyways.


I say hots all the time, people still play and refer to wol all the time as well. And then of course there will be LotV in the future.
People, myself included, also make differnce between SC and BW, D2 and LOD, Wc3 and TFT, and all the wow expansions I won't name. Besides, there are so many games outside of blizzard with the name 'Heroes' or already shortened to 'Heroes'. It is confusing where it needn't be. I played HoN quite a bit in beta, many people refered to it as 'Heroes'. I'm pretty sure there is some army/fps type game referred to as 'Heroes' as well.
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ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
November 13 2013 01:06 GMT
#1042
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 13 2013 01:16 GMT
#1043
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...

i dunno kev
yo
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 01:46:32
November 13 2013 01:46 GMT
#1044
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...


BW and WC3 did not have very big player bases either. RTS games in general have never been super popular compared to FPS/DOTA games/player bases. SC2 is no exception and I don't understand why people seem to think it has to be.
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 01:53:22
November 13 2013 01:52 GMT
#1045
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...

you are just a hater. Losing 50% of the player base in the first month isn't that big of a deal considering all the casuals that buy the game, play through it maybe one time and then move on to the next one. and it isn't like this argument wasn't had before on the bnet forums.
or would you please provide samples through multiple games to show that this is an extraordinary large player loss.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
November 13 2013 01:56 GMT
#1046
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...


You're just seeing what you want to see.

Both D3 and SC2 are doing more than fine by any legitimate standards.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 13 2013 02:06 GMT
#1047
On November 13 2013 10:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...


You're just seeing what you want to see.

Both D3 and SC2 are doing more than fine by any legitimate standards.

Correct. These days, according to people anything that isn't the number 1 most popular game in the world is a failure.
Refer to my post.
Eventine
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
November 13 2013 02:20 GMT
#1048
On November 13 2013 11:06 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 10:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...


You're just seeing what you want to see.

Both D3 and SC2 are doing more than fine by any legitimate standards.

Correct. These days, according to people anything that isn't the number 1 most popular game in the world is a failure.


We call those people LoL players.
You are everything, I never knew, I always wanted.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 02:21:43
November 13 2013 02:20 GMT
#1049
On November 13 2013 11:06 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 10:56 Vindicare605 wrote:
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...


You're just seeing what you want to see.

Both D3 and SC2 are doing more than fine by any legitimate standards.

Correct. These days, according to people anything that isn't the number 1 most popular game in the world is a failure.

yea i agree

even thou sc2 is actually #1 in rts genre and d3 is #1 in arpg genre(numberwise)

haters gonna hate
yo
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 03:16:18
November 13 2013 03:10 GMT
#1050
On November 13 2013 10:46 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...


BW and WC3 did not have very big player bases either. RTS games in general have never been super popular compared to FPS/DOTA games/player bases. SC2 is no exception and I don't understand why people seem to think it has to be.


Having 1,5 million players online at pretty much all time during the first year was great achievement though. It just went downhill from there.

On November 13 2013 10:52 Hryul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...

you are just a hater. Losing 50% of the player base in the first month isn't that big of a deal considering all the casuals that buy the game, play through it maybe one time and then move on to the next one. and it isn't like this argument wasn't had before on the bnet forums.
or would you please provide samples through multiple games to show that this is an extraordinary large player loss.


Hater? I've played every single blizzard game and enjoyed them. I'm just stating what actually happened, i've had to leave wc3 cause it was hacker infested, and same with sc2 recently. That is one of the problem with Blizzard games, they have no control on hackers after a while.

As for d3, it just was a letdown for me, no competitive aspect at all - no ladder, max level could be reached in only a few days... I mean, I surely did enjoy the game for a week, but that's it.
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 06:46:35
November 13 2013 06:44 GMT
#1051
I'm sure this will be fun. Even though laning and leveling is different it doesn't look like they're deviating much from core DOTA gameplay, and that's fine.

I am a little disappointed that it's so... tepid. Not just in visual style (though definitely that), but in how the heroes are animated. Sort of sluggishly, and without any personality. With such a crazy premise I'd hoped the visuals and animation would have more punch.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 13 2013 08:55 GMT
#1052
On November 13 2013 12:10 ZweiGaming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 10:46 nGBeast wrote:
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...


BW and WC3 did not have very big player bases either. RTS games in general have never been super popular compared to FPS/DOTA games/player bases. SC2 is no exception and I don't understand why people seem to think it has to be.


Having 1,5 million players online at pretty much all time during the first year was great achievement though. It just went downhill from there.

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 10:52 Hryul wrote:
On November 13 2013 10:06 ZweiGaming wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:27 Assirra wrote:
On November 11 2013 13:09 ZweiGaming wrote:
Unless its free to play, I doubt it will survive any longer than other blizzard games...

Consider the average life of Blizzard games compared to others that is very weird statement.


Their first games, agreed. Though the recent ones... HoTs didn't really revive sc2 community, D3 lost 50% player base in the first month...

you are just a hater. Losing 50% of the player base in the first month isn't that big of a deal considering all the casuals that buy the game, play through it maybe one time and then move on to the next one. and it isn't like this argument wasn't had before on the bnet forums.
or would you please provide samples through multiple games to show that this is an extraordinary large player loss.


Hater? I've played every single blizzard game and enjoyed them. I'm just stating what actually happened, i've had to leave wc3 cause it was hacker infested, and same with sc2 recently. That is one of the problem with Blizzard games, they have no control on hackers after a while.

As for d3, it just was a letdown for me, no competitive aspect at all - no ladder, max level could be reached in only a few days... I mean, I surely did enjoy the game for a week, but that's it.


That's the same as every other game though, at release and a bit after that the number of active users is very high and, after a period of time it starts to gradually shrink until the real lovers of the game remain.

Yeah it is kind of impressive SC2 had 1.5 mil for the first year, but that number starting to drop was just inevitable.

And yes RTS games were never really that popular, maybe only back in the 1990 to 2000 period, but that is kind of it. Free to play games kind of work in reverse, they don't have a huge marketing push, so not many people pick it up first, and the games gradually grow in time due to word of mouth and other aspects.

The best thing Blizzard could do is identify what aspects of F2P games keep drawing in people over time, or at the very least makes them stick, and then apply that to SC2. I do strongly suspect the ladder isn't it.

Anyway, I've gone way off topic with that. To solve any name related issue I just prefer to call the game Heroes, I guess HotS won't be so bad once Legacy of the Void is out, but Heroes is just fine.

Also, I can hardly wait to get my hands on Arthas and reenact the time old classic of Arthas vs Illidan!
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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
November 13 2013 13:00 GMT
#1053
On November 13 2013 15:44 Rococo wrote:
I'm sure this will be fun. Even though laning and leveling is different it doesn't look like they're deviating much from core DOTA gameplay, and that's fine.

I am a little disappointed that it's so... tepid. Not just in visual style (though definitely that), but in how the heroes are animated. Sort of sluggishly, and without any personality. With such a crazy premise I'd hoped the visuals and animation would have more punch.


Totally agree about the animations. But I guess that has to do with the limitations of the SC2 engine. I would wished for a lot more fluid combat animations.

The characters look a bit stale.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45289 Posts
November 13 2013 13:05 GMT
#1054
On November 13 2013 22:00 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 15:44 Rococo wrote:
I'm sure this will be fun. Even though laning and leveling is different it doesn't look like they're deviating much from core DOTA gameplay, and that's fine.

I am a little disappointed that it's so... tepid. Not just in visual style (though definitely that), but in how the heroes are animated. Sort of sluggishly, and without any personality. With such a crazy premise I'd hoped the visuals and animation would have more punch.


Totally agree about the animations. But I guess that has to do with the limitations of the SC2 engine. I would wished for a lot more fluid combat animations.

The characters look a bit stale.


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DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
November 13 2013 15:32 GMT
#1055
This game actually looks pretty good, can't understand the hate. Hearthstone looks good, HotSt looks good, RoS looks to fix D3... Blizzard doing good for the first time in years, no complaints here.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
December 25 2013 01:18 GMT
#1056


First battle report is out.
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
December 25 2013 01:52 GMT
#1057
On December 25 2013 10:18 NB wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=652N8sOQb4M

First battle report is out.


Looks fun! Also I watched the second game and already wanna try to play beta! :D
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Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
December 25 2013 03:57 GMT
#1058
On December 25 2013 10:18 NB wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=652N8sOQb4M

First battle report is out.



I'm assuming all the icons and stuff will still be edited and polished because right now they're just ripping them from WoW and SC (Probably placeholders.) That said, I'm really looking forward to this game, looks like a lot of fun once in a while! :D
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
December 25 2013 06:39 GMT
#1059
The big selling point for me in this game, is that you dont need to know optimal item builds. Its much simpler and easier to just get straight into. Too bad I wont get to try beta, since I've never had a beta invite from blizzard >.>
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
December 25 2013 07:54 GMT
#1060
Since TL is relatively quiet, you guys could check out the discussion about this particular video over on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1tma7q/heroes_of_the_storm_full_match_with_developers/

A lot of people made the comparison between it and LoL/DotA2 but the general feedbacks seem quite positive.
My concern is mainly about how the game doesnt look that interesting from a spectator point of view and its more fun playing than watching. In combination with the casual friendly design philosophy, I highly doubt that it could make it into a successful esports title. But if Blizzard run it right it could be a wonderful game that attract a lot of players.
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