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BreakingBrad
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada14 Posts
November 09 2013 09:59 GMT
#901
On November 09 2013 13:21 Tchado wrote:
I'm reading this article , I like what I am reading expect for one thing :

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/09/how-heroes-of-the-storm-challenges-the-genre

the thing I dont like ? DUSTIN BROWDER , GAME DIRECTOR ? ok this game is done for....and btw why is that guy working on another game ffs ? he needs to find a way to make LOTV good or else....


Rocks. More Rocks.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12336 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 10:04:41
November 09 2013 10:02 GMT
#902
did they give us a release date?
I know it will probably be blizzard soon but any idea?

also I wish they would give some swarmy ability for kerrigan, otherwise she would just be another powerful being instead of a leader of the swarm
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
November 09 2013 10:11 GMT
#903
i'll give this a spin for sure. seems fun enough to play with friends as not all too much seems to be at stake.
Get crunk
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8478 Posts
November 09 2013 10:24 GMT
#904
On November 09 2013 18:59 BreakingBrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:21 Tchado wrote:
I'm reading this article , I like what I am reading expect for one thing :

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/09/how-heroes-of-the-storm-challenges-the-genre

the thing I dont like ? DUSTIN BROWDER , GAME DIRECTOR ? ok this game is done for....and btw why is that guy working on another game ffs ? he needs to find a way to make LOTV good or else....


Rocks. More Rocks.


Maybe there is another game director for LOTV then?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40186 Posts
November 09 2013 10:32 GMT
#905
On November 09 2013 19:24 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 18:59 BreakingBrad wrote:
On November 09 2013 13:21 Tchado wrote:
I'm reading this article , I like what I am reading expect for one thing :

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/09/how-heroes-of-the-storm-challenges-the-genre

the thing I dont like ? DUSTIN BROWDER , GAME DIRECTOR ? ok this game is done for....and btw why is that guy working on another game ffs ? he needs to find a way to make LOTV good or else....


Rocks. More Rocks.


Maybe there is another game director for LOTV then?

Yes, that's why David Kim had to answer the question you guys all remember and blame him for answering.
Either way, i did not hear a thing about it but judging from post, i like their direction.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
November 09 2013 11:16 GMT
#906
On November 09 2013 15:39 excal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:16 Gfire wrote:
It's only snowbally if the rewards can then help you get further rewards. If killing a creep and taking it over only helps push you towards your victory goal, but doesn't help you capture further creeps or anything, then it's not all that snowbally. Probably still some, but it doesn't seem like as much as an item system.


Having played 3 games, I can say it's definitely NOT snowbally. Neutrals help end the game very quickly, but if you hold out, its still very balanced. There are no kill tracker, only kill+assist, by the end of the game that we dominated (my score was 28-1, and my friends 32-1, and the rest of the team having around 4~ deaths while the other team had 8+ each), they held us pretty well at the end until we managed to get the last dragon knight, I was like 19 and they were level 17, not a huge difference, and the lack of items really makes comebacks easy

But does that mean it isn't snowbally, or that they were watching a 10 minute+ death animation.

Because while playing Aeon of Storm I have had plenty of games where it was fast enough clear who wins, but it simply takes alot of time to kill all towers when the enemy are still semi-competent at defending them.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 11:27:50
November 09 2013 11:25 GMT
#907
On November 09 2013 15:39 excal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 13:16 Gfire wrote:
It's only snowbally if the rewards can then help you get further rewards. If killing a creep and taking it over only helps push you towards your victory goal, but doesn't help you capture further creeps or anything, then it's not all that snowbally. Probably still some, but it doesn't seem like as much as an item system.


Having played 3 games, I can say it's definitely NOT snowbally. Neutrals help end the game very quickly, but if you hold out, its still very balanced. There are no kill tracker, only kill+assist, by the end of the game that we dominated (my score was 28-1, and my friends 32-1, and the rest of the team having around 4~ deaths while the other team had 8+ each), they held us pretty well at the end until we managed to get the last dragon knight, I was like 19 and they were level 17, not a huge difference, and the lack of items really makes comebacks easy

It's good to hear that from first impressions, but I think it may be to early to have a definitive answer on balance. Getting your hands on the game is certainly the best info currently though.

When you played, was the client at all accessible? To be exact how was game hosting/chat handled.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
November 09 2013 11:39 GMT
#908
On November 09 2013 19:02 ETisME wrote:
did they give us a release date?
I know it will probably be blizzard soon but any idea?

also I wish they would give some swarmy ability for kerrigan, otherwise she would just be another powerful being instead of a leader of the swarm

They only mentioned that they would beta test at the beginning of next year, nothing about a release date as of yet.


Really liking the idea of skill trees and getting to decide what skills you have as opposed to buying what items you can dependent on your farm. The thing that ruins this for me, though, is the shared experience. Even if you're playing poorly, if the rest of your team is going well you'll still have the levels to get the skills you want. I don't feel this rewards skilled players enough.

On the other hand, I suppose it's much less punishing to players who make mistakes early on and gives them a chance to redeem themselves meaning you're not doomed to spend the rest of the game lamenting how terribly you played, though I don't think that's as big a deal as it would be in LoL or Dota since game times are shorter. Gonna have to see how this pans out or if they change anything, maybe it's not as terrible as I think it is, but I really do enjoy skilled players being rewarded for being better.
Long live the King of Wings
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
November 09 2013 11:40 GMT
#909
When I heard Raynor first phrase I expected flaming diabolical bears to come out xD
I really like the idea of using and abusing all cliches and jokes they can into the game!
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 11:44:22
November 09 2013 11:43 GMT
#910
Wow. This actually looks amazing! I will definitely try this out!

On November 09 2013 13:21 Tchado wrote:
I'm reading this article , I like what I am reading expect for one thing :

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/09/how-heroes-of-the-storm-challenges-the-genre

the thing I dont like ? DUSTIN BROWDER , GAME DIRECTOR ? ok this game is done for....and btw why is that guy working on another game ffs ? he needs to find a way to make LOTV good or else....



Yeah, if only games were made by more than one person. -_-

And apart from that, Dustin is actually an amazing game director. Having been a part of some of the greatest strategy games ever made and having an attitude of listening carefully to the fans and his team and being generally very friendly and open. If I was creating anything strategy related I would definitely hire this guy as my first choice.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-09 12:38:54
November 09 2013 12:35 GMT
#911
On November 09 2013 16:22 yyfpulls wrote:
the graphics blow lol/dota out of the water.


I guess that's true, if you're talking about dota the WC3 mod...

Edit: I also find the whole notion of 20 minute games a bit irksome.. the implication being that Dota matches or whatever last forever and ever. The average game time for Dota2 is about 30 minutes, that's perfectly fine, imo. http://dotabuff.com/matches
So HOTS is going to have all these artificial ways of closing out matches in 20 minutes, removing depth etc. Just looks like bad game design, imo.
DiLiGu
Profile Joined December 2011
United States185 Posts
November 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#912
Well, this looks incredible.

I expect it to be as fun for the MOBA genre as WoW was for the MMO genre. Remember, hardcore MMO players thought WoW was stupid and cartoony at first, too.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 09 2013 16:28 GMT
#913
They will win, if they manage to grab the attention of female gamers too, the way LoL did.
I think it's silly if they don't include a traditional map alongside their own game modes. Everybody will demand it.
"Hero Brawler" - new term for Dota/Moba etc. It seems every big game of this type comes up with their own term.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
November 09 2013 16:30 GMT
#914
On November 09 2013 21:35 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 16:22 yyfpulls wrote:
the graphics blow lol/dota out of the water.


I guess that's true, if you're talking about dota the WC3 mod...

Edit: I also find the whole notion of 20 minute games a bit irksome.. the implication being that Dota matches or whatever last forever and ever. The average game time for Dota2 is about 30 minutes, that's perfectly fine, imo. http://dotabuff.com/matches
So HOTS is going to have all these artificial ways of closing out matches in 20 minutes, removing depth etc. Just looks like bad game design, imo.

I believe the word you're looking for is different rather than bad. Easy to make such a typo I know, I see it everywhere.
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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1820 Posts
November 10 2013 03:47 GMT
#915
Developer exhibition match from Blizzcon:


Looks very actiony, with a smaller map than Dota.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
November 10 2013 03:54 GMT
#916
Looks like Guardians of Middle Earth has some serious competition on its hands
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
November 10 2013 03:59 GMT
#917
Hmm looked okay in that vid. Hard to tell wtf is going on in a game you don't play.
Don't you rage when you lose too? -FruitDealer
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
November 10 2013 04:04 GMT
#918
On November 09 2013 21:35 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 16:22 yyfpulls wrote:
the graphics blow lol/dota out of the water.


I guess that's true, if you're talking about dota the WC3 mod...

Edit: I also find the whole notion of 20 minute games a bit irksome.. the implication being that Dota matches or whatever last forever and ever. The average game time for Dota2 is about 30 minutes, that's perfectly fine, imo. http://dotabuff.com/matches
So HOTS is going to have all these artificial ways of closing out matches in 20 minutes, removing depth etc. Just looks like bad game design, imo.


30 minutes as an average game length is way too long for me, it makes it difficult for me to ever play a game of dota or lol. A 20 minute long game makes it much easier to fit real life around it.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
November 10 2013 04:08 GMT
#919
the attack animations and movements look extremely clunky, awkward and unpolished, disappointed by blizzard.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 04:12:16
November 10 2013 04:12 GMT
#920
The minimap is on the bottom-right? Disgusting.
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