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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
May 11 2015 00:30 GMT
#8241
On May 11 2015 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Did we win pretty much just because we're all low level, because their team comp looks a lot more standard than ours lol... We were (slightly) ahead all game long. I suppose at the lower levels it's more about playing with a hero that you know how to play, rather than just picking an unknown hero simply to fill "its niche". Although it seems like pretty much every composition has 1 tank, 1 healer, and then 3 others.

[image loading]

Looks like your team won because you and Raynor did work.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2552 Posts
May 11 2015 03:39 GMT
#8242
On May 11 2015 07:30 xDaunt wrote:
I find it kinda odd that Tychus has fallen so far out of favor -- relatively speaking. Sure, he's not shunned like Raynor, but I rarely see him anymore. And when I do see him, it seems like a stupidly largely percentage of players are taking laser drill of all things. I really don't get it. Tychus straight up dominates teamfights with Odin. Not only does Odin crap out a ton of huge AoE damage, but its range is longer than anyone's not named Hammer. Combine that range with First Aid and Stoneskin, and you have a hero puts out a ton of damage while being very safe to play. Have people just overreacted to his nerfs? Is he being crowded out by Jaina and Sylvanas? What am I missing?


While I do agree Tychus is a good hero, lately all the Tychus i've seen we're horribles and always pushing too far so I have to say i'm fine with not seeing him often in my team these times.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
May 11 2015 18:14 GMT
#8243
On May 11 2015 09:30 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Did we win pretty much just because we're all low level, because their team comp looks a lot more standard than ours lol... We were (slightly) ahead all game long. I suppose at the lower levels it's more about playing with a hero that you know how to play, rather than just picking an unknown hero simply to fill "its niche". Although it seems like pretty much every composition has 1 tank, 1 healer, and then 3 others.

[image loading]

Looks like your team won because you and Raynor did work.


Got a similar scenario where I end up wondering how I got more Siege Damage AND Hero Damage as Anub'arak than Jaina, Sylvanas or Illidan. You'd think Sylvanas would atleast top the Siege Damage.

[image loading]
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
May 11 2015 18:16 GMT
#8244
It's impressive how low your Jaina's damage is.
Writer
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
May 11 2015 18:19 GMT
#8245
On May 12 2015 03:16 Valiver wrote:
It's impressive how low your Jaina's damage is.


I've had one case where I did more damage as a heal build Tyrande than either the Zeratul or Tyreal on my team.
The Valla on my team had more, but only by about 10%.

I know it's only stats and burst heroes may have a great game without getting top Hero damage (since their total damage output may not be as consistent) but I sometimes really wonder what players are doing with certain heroes to get such low numbers. They should be higher even if they are playing passive and just doing the lanes/objectives.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
May 11 2015 18:27 GMT
#8246
On May 12 2015 03:14 Thezzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 09:30 xDaunt wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Did we win pretty much just because we're all low level, because their team comp looks a lot more standard than ours lol... We were (slightly) ahead all game long. I suppose at the lower levels it's more about playing with a hero that you know how to play, rather than just picking an unknown hero simply to fill "its niche". Although it seems like pretty much every composition has 1 tank, 1 healer, and then 3 others.

[image loading]

Looks like your team won because you and Raynor did work.


Got a similar scenario where I end up wondering how I got more Siege Damage AND Hero Damage as Anub'arak than Jaina, Sylvanas or Illidan. You'd think Sylvanas would atleast top the Siege Damage.

[image loading]


Well the Illidan looks like he wasn't involved in all the fights and died a lot when he was, so that explain hims. Not sure about the other two, but what map was this? If it was Garden of Terror then it's totally understandable that Anub would top siege damage (tanks take terrors right? not just my bad strategy?)
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
May 11 2015 19:18 GMT
#8247
On May 12 2015 03:27 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 03:14 Thezzy wrote:
On May 11 2015 09:30 xDaunt wrote:
On May 11 2015 08:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Did we win pretty much just because we're all low level, because their team comp looks a lot more standard than ours lol... We were (slightly) ahead all game long. I suppose at the lower levels it's more about playing with a hero that you know how to play, rather than just picking an unknown hero simply to fill "its niche". Although it seems like pretty much every composition has 1 tank, 1 healer, and then 3 others.

[image loading]

Looks like your team won because you and Raynor did work.


Got a similar scenario where I end up wondering how I got more Siege Damage AND Hero Damage as Anub'arak than Jaina, Sylvanas or Illidan. You'd think Sylvanas would atleast top the Siege Damage.

[image loading]


Well the Illidan looks like he wasn't involved in all the fights and died a lot when he was, so that explain hims. Not sure about the other two, but what map was this? If it was Garden of Terror then it's totally understandable that Anub would top siege damage (tanks take terrors right? not just my bad strategy?)


Oh right, no it was Dragon Shire.
I got one Dragon, Illidan took another one.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 12 2015 16:20 GMT
#8248
Did the servers go to shit today? I (and my co-players) have had massive lag/disconnects in all my games today so far
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45744 Posts
May 12 2015 16:41 GMT
#8249
On May 13 2015 01:20 Ghostcom wrote:
Did the servers go to shit today? I (and my co-players) have had massive lag/disconnects in all my games today so far


Big patch, new hero, maintenance day. Should be up in around 2-3 hours I think.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
May 12 2015 16:46 GMT
#8250
I think he maybe on the EU servers? Don't they get the patch usually the next day?
Wat
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45744 Posts
May 12 2015 17:16 GMT
#8251
On May 13 2015 01:46 Tenks wrote:
I think he maybe on the EU servers? Don't they get the patch usually the next day?


Ah okay, my bad ^^ My post was regarding American server.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-14 20:56:25
May 14 2015 20:48 GMT
#8252
Deleted
Don't mind me
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
May 15 2015 00:43 GMT
#8253
On May 13 2015 02:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 01:46 Tenks wrote:
I think he maybe on the EU servers? Don't they get the patch usually the next day?


Ah okay, my bad ^^ My post was regarding American server.


Turns out my ISP had some issues (read, someone literally cut a cable). But thanks for the replies
5150_
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
8 Posts
May 16 2015 11:50 GMT
#8254
Am I the only one who feels like the game needs something else added to it, the lack of ever feeling powerful is started to kind of get old for me even though I love the idea of the game.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 16 2015 12:14 GMT
#8255
Play one of the heroes that have a bad early game and get talents like do 300% more damage later on. Especially in QM a few heroes are just insane because teams aren't as organized.
But I guess it is mainly a mentality thing, so if you don't feel like a wrecking ball even if you are post 16 Muradin, then you won't feel almighty.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
May 16 2015 12:43 GMT
#8256
Blizzard definitely is going to eat my wallet, because this game is a god send for all things information, and customization.
Support your esport!
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 16 2015 14:32 GMT
#8257
Kael unleashed onto the Tournament scene ! and banned!
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
May 16 2015 16:16 GMT
#8258
Kifercino, the sub for Liquid was really bad as abathur. He didn't do much and seemed to panic a lot. He just caused Liquid to lose their match against gamers2.
Don't mind me
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-16 17:35:37
May 16 2015 16:42 GMT
#8259
missed that game as i had the stream muted. But now it is Kael time !
So funny that Lili is banned from the tournament. But the bug is so insane.

Not even Anub can save the teams that pick Kael.
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
May 16 2015 19:37 GMT
#8260
All the Kael hype... I don't feel it. Na'vi ignored him completely against Gamers2 and won 2-0. Doesn't look THAT OP to me.
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