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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
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Yoav
United States1874 Posts
On May 06 2015 07:55 [Phantom] wrote: Models have been shown of: Warcraft: Cho'Gall Rexxar Blade Master (not grom). Diablo: Butcher Leoric Skeleton King Crusader. StarCraft None Sound files of Dehaka have been data mined though. Don't forget Vol'jin. On May 06 2015 08:14 kingjames01 wrote: We've known for a real long time that this Kael'thas person was going to be the next Hero. Based on the reactions people have been giving, I'm inferring he's a well-liked character. Is/was he important in the WarCraft lore? Yeah, he's on the list of people who were epic in Warcraft, then got the "idiot raid boss" treatment in WoW. | ||
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lestye
United States4149 Posts
On May 06 2015 08:18 Yoav wrote: Don't forget Vol'jin. Yeah, he's on the list of people who were epic in Warcraft, then got the "idiot raid boss" treatment in WoW. I hear that complaint a lot, but a lot of Warcraft 1 and 2 characters will killed off in worse ways than "idiot raid boss treatment" in WoW. At least his appearences in WoW were pretty cool.. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On May 06 2015 08:07 Pwere wrote: Sorry, but King Leoric and the Skeleton King are one and the same.  And I really hope the Butcher and Leoric are closer to their Diablo 1 versions than D3. No "Vegetables bad, meat good!" please. I've thought this too, but honestly what was Diablo 1 Butcher except nightmare fuel for pre-teens? All he did was run fast and hit you, he didn't have spells or special abilities and had a weakness to closed doors with windows next to them =p. If you mean in character, then ya I hope he loses the camp and 'a species of demons' thing and is a unique monster again. I actually never rolled the Skeleton King quest in Diablo 1 (usually tried to blow past the middle of the game) so I can't comment on what he was like back then. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On May 06 2015 09:23 Wuster wrote: I've thought this too, but honestly what was Diablo 1 Butcher except nightmare fuel for pre-teens? All he did was run fast and hit you, he didn't have spells or special abilities and had a weakness to closed doors with windows next to them =p. If you mean in character, then ya I hope he loses the camp and 'a species of demons' thing and is a unique monster again. I actually never rolled the Skeleton King quest in Diablo 1 (usually tried to blow past the middle of the game) so I can't comment on what he was like back then. I don't think any of the bosses in D1 had any special abilities...it was a simpler game. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21490 Posts
On May 08 2015 02:55 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I am not familiar with WoW lore but is Kael'thas "same" as Invoker? :D only for looks and that is because Invoker used the Kael'thas model back when Dota was a mod for WC3 | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 08 2015 04:29 Heyoka wrote: Kael'thas seems to have Phoenix as an with 1/7 of the spells! ;P | ||
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TMG26
Portugal2017 Posts
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
On May 08 2015 06:43 TMG26 wrote: And completely boring/useless compared to the OPness of dota heroes. to compensate how boring Dota is ;< | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2543 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Kaelthas was awesome until the moment he decided to aid Illidan. Arthas was atleast a jerk from minute one, so I didn't mind that he slowly lost everything. I wonder which abilities they will give him ... every of his warcraft 3 abilities would be insanely op in team fights. TBH I don't mind a ton of Warcraft heroes, but I really want a scifi themed battle ground. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On May 08 2015 22:21 FeyFey wrote: Butcher ability was to hitlock you, which was my first experience of not being able to do anything but watch my character die. Kaelthas was awesome until the moment he decided to aid Illidan. Arthas was atleast a jerk from minute one, so I didn't mind that he slowly lost everything. I wonder which abilities they will give him ... every of his warcraft 3 abilities would be insanely op in team fights. TBH I don't mind a ton of Warcraft heroes, but I really want a scifi themed battle ground. Shit it would be so awesome if the Butcher had a Trait that allowed him to hit-lock opponents  And it makes sense that Warcraft heroes will be the majority; Warcraft is by far Blizzard's largest IP. However, they could stand to diversify the other universes a bit. There is absolutely no excuse for the Necromancer to be missing from the Diablo lineup. Utter. Fucking. Bullshit. | ||
Valiver
Caldeum1977 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On May 08 2015 22:21 FeyFey wrote: Butcher ability was to hitlock you, which was my first experience of not being able to do anything but watch my character die. Kaelthas was awesome until the moment he decided to aid Illidan. Arthas was atleast a jerk from minute one, so I didn't mind that he slowly lost everything. I wonder which abilities they will give him ... every of his warcraft 3 abilities would be insanely op in team fights. TBH I don't mind a ton of Warcraft heroes, but I really want a scifi themed battle ground. Well technically that was just how Diablo's hit / recovery mechanic worked. Butcher was just really fast, you couldn't out run him either. But maybe you're right and that could be some sort of trait, some built-in attack-speed debuff (reverse Overwhelming Presence if you will). I'm curious about Kael'thas too. Flamestrike seems like a given to keep. From interviews I've seen, Illidan didn't keep manaburn because that would have been too OP (also frustratingly unfun) and Sylvanas' possession is so weak because controlling a hero would have been too 'unfun'. So I'm not hopeful for drain mana staying. I don't know if he'll keep Banish either for that matter. It's possible they'll go more the WoW fire mage route with him (he does have Pyroblast after all - but that was also something he had in WoW). I hope his trait is a spell steal / purge ability to keep in character with the blood mages at least. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
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