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739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 07:01:24
March 19 2015 07:01 GMT
#7641
Nvm I just read the message at the top ^_^
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 08:43:37
March 19 2015 08:41 GMT
#7642
On March 19 2015 08:23 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 07:56 Chairman Ray wrote:
I don't got 15000 gold. Debating whether I should just pay for her. I probably should. Now debating whether I should buy just her, or the skin combo she comes with. Hmmmmmm

Do we know what any of her skins will be yet? I bought the Winterveil Jaina skin/hero bundle and no regrets. I'm happy to support a game I enjoy playing.

Probably the pre undead high elf skin they made for her trailer

Keep in mind if you don't think you have enough gold, if you want sylvannas really bad I think this patch if your account is high enough level you get 10k. So you on only need 5k
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
TL+ Member
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
March 19 2015 12:51 GMT
#7643
I have to say this game may be much more addictive than I first thought. I only played like 4 practice games the other night, and have since been away from home. The last few days all I can think about is getting home and playing a few real games. I still love me some doto, but god damn has Heroes taken a hold.
Long live the King of Wings
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 19 2015 17:18 GMT
#7644
BTW what are takedowns? It's just kills that you participated in or just your kills? I've played 5 games so far, won 4 of them and I have average stats of 23-2.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
March 19 2015 17:21 GMT
#7645
Kills that happened near you I think. I'm pretty sure I've gotten "kills" for things I was running to join after respawn but hadn't actually shot at yet.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 19 2015 17:22 GMT
#7646
Yeah the actual metric of Takedowns is mostly worthless but it is decent to show if someone is or is not participating in team fights. Like if you are 20-4 and someone else is like 9-3 it is a good indication that person isn't active in team fights.
Wat
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 18:37:12
March 19 2015 18:36 GMT
#7647
I believe if you fight and die and then your team avenges you shortly thereafter you get credit for a takedown even.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
March 19 2015 19:12 GMT
#7648
BTW when you play Quick Match the map chosen is random right? Mines are my favourite so far, played also the map where you have cannonballs and it sucked. Shrines are fine as well.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
March 19 2015 19:34 GMT
#7649
Yeah its random, that "canon ball" map is Blackhearts bay, we did a guide about it recently, I suggest you check it out if you haven't already.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/heroes/478279-heroes-of-the-storm-map-guide-blackhearts-bay

I find that takedowns is useful because it solves the problem of "that was my kill, why did you kill him noob now I'll AFK"

WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 19 2015 21:10 GMT
#7650
I really don't know if the map choice is really random as it happened to me too many times getting the same map 3 to 4 times in a row.

Just two days ago I've played Blackheart's Bay 4 times in a row, followed by 3 Cursed Hollows. Some time before that we had 3 Haunted Mines in a row followed by 3 Gardens of Terror in a row. I would like it to be more random, or some rule like "you can't get the same map 2 or 3 times in a row", or just veto maps you don't want to play.

Getting Blackheart's Bay 4 times in a row(while 2 days before that I also got it 4 times in a row...) is really demoralizing when you start to hate the map with how much you are playing it...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
March 20 2015 00:48 GMT
#7651
On March 19 2015 11:19 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 09:11 kingjames01 wrote:
On March 19 2015 05:34 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sylvanas and Tomb of the Spider Queen next week! WOOT!


Where did you see this? I want to read about it!!



I didn't expect it to be so soon, but hype!


"Aiming"

I got a bad feeling about this x)
Maybe its a miss translation from me but in my country the "aiming" word is not so sure.
RIP MKP
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 20 2015 00:51 GMT
#7652
Here's the CM post I linked earlier:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/16648684962?page=18#348

Pretty definitive there, but it's a forum post hence unofficial. But I think it's pretty safe to assume she's coming out next week.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 00:53:09
March 20 2015 00:52 GMT
#7653
On March 20 2015 09:48 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 11:19 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On March 19 2015 09:11 kingjames01 wrote:
On March 19 2015 05:34 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sylvanas and Tomb of the Spider Queen next week! WOOT!


Where did you see this? I want to read about it!!

https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/578273004892762112

I didn't expect it to be so soon, but hype!


"Aiming"

I got a bad feeling about this x)
Maybe its a miss translation from me but in my country the "aiming" word is not so sure.


I don't think Blizzard would announce something. I know one of the blue posts that was linked to previously said it might get delayed until Wednesday or Thursday instead of the traditional Tuesday patches, but missing next week entirely doesn't seem likely at all.

^^yeah that one
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 20 2015 14:39 GMT
#7654
I'm starting to fall back in love with Tychus. I'm doing some alternative builds and I'm really digging him now. After his nerf I was pretty sure he was down to poop tier but I don't think thats the case anymore. I've done a few auto-attack focused builds and once he gets Nexus Frenzy at 20 if he can just plant his heels and fire he does absolutely insane amounts of DPS.
Wat
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 20 2015 14:54 GMT
#7655
On March 20 2015 23:39 Tenks wrote:
I'm starting to fall back in love with Tychus. I'm doing some alternative builds and I'm really digging him now. After his nerf I was pretty sure he was down to poop tier but I don't think thats the case anymore. I've done a few auto-attack focused builds and once he gets Nexus Frenzy at 20 if he can just plant his heels and fire he does absolutely insane amounts of DPS.

Valla, Tychus, and Falstad all seem to be in good places right now. Only Raynor needs some tuning.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 20 2015 15:01 GMT
#7656
It is probably too late into this game's maturity cycle but I really wish Blizzard would experiment with longer starting death timers. Like start at 20 seconds and add 2 seconds per level or something. Early game objectives are so wonky. Like in Mines you can narrowly win a team fight (lets say a 4 for 2 trade) but you can still easily get zerged down because you're low on HP and Mana and suddenly that earlier teamfight win means nothing because you will die to the opponents while killing the golem. Like maybe make it so first blood awards 1.5x the normal XP but also deducts 20 seconds from the death timer or something.
Wat
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 20 2015 15:16 GMT
#7657
On March 21 2015 00:01 Tenks wrote:
It is probably too late into this game's maturity cycle but I really wish Blizzard would experiment with longer starting death timers. Like start at 20 seconds and add 2 seconds per level or something. Early game objectives are so wonky. Like in Mines you can narrowly win a team fight (lets say a 4 for 2 trade) but you can still easily get zerged down because you're low on HP and Mana and suddenly that earlier teamfight win means nothing because you will die to the opponents while killing the golem. Like maybe make it so first blood awards 1.5x the normal XP but also deducts 20 seconds from the death timer or something.


Well, an alternative option for the Haunted Mines is if you win a fight at the Golem, your team teleports back to base to heal up. You will get back just before the other team and you can theoretically win any teamfights from full health anyway if they try to engage you, since your team just outfought them. However, you have to do this fast.

At least that's what Grubby has urged his team to do in the past.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 20 2015 15:24 GMT
#7658
My issue with the "B away" idea is that you won a team fight and you should be rewarded. *Possibly* your reward is it is now level 5 vs level 4. But even winning a team fight it is still generally a level 4 vs level 4 scenario. So the reward for winning that teamfight is teleporting back to fountain and winning it again. It just doesn't jive with me.

It may be once voice comms are integrated into the game (if they ever are) and match making is a bit tighter it won't matter at higher level games. But at the moment early tribute spawns and first mines is a pretty big zerg fest. I just don't find it enjoyable. Possibly that is just me and others love it.
Wat
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 20 2015 15:40 GMT
#7659
Wow Azmodan is amazing. He's really sturdy, has sick pushing skills, a huge range huge aoe good damage nuke, and can 1v1 anyone with his beam.
Neosteel Enthusiast
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 20 2015 15:57 GMT
#7660
On March 21 2015 00:24 Tenks wrote:
My issue with the "B away" idea is that you won a team fight and you should be rewarded. *Possibly* your reward is it is now level 5 vs level 4. But even winning a team fight it is still generally a level 4 vs level 4 scenario. So the reward for winning that teamfight is teleporting back to fountain and winning it again. It just doesn't jive with me.

It may be once voice comms are integrated into the game (if they ever are) and match making is a bit tighter it won't matter at higher level games. But at the moment early tribute spawns and first mines is a pretty big zerg fest. I just don't find it enjoyable. Possibly that is just me and others love it.


You WILL be rewarded. You are now full health and full mana. You'll be able to take the Golem easily and if they try to force a fight, you'll win again.

Either that, or you can be impatient and try to kill the Golem with only half-health or less and very low on mana. Then if the other team decides to jump you in the Mine, you'll lose the fight AND the Golem.

Winning a team fight before the Golem does not entitle you to the Golem. It earns you a small time window in which you are free to choose what happens next.

In the second scenario, your team is gambling that they can convert their small time window into a Golem. If the gamble works, that's a huge tempo play. If the gamble fails, then you've thrown away that opportunity. Instead, consider that you should use your timing window to heal your HP and restore your mana. You'll end up with the Golem and you didn't have to gamble for it.


It could just be a mentality issue. I encounter it often in this game, where players on my team believe that winning a team fight outside the gates to a Keep entitles them to the Core.

Instead of playing it safe and guaranteeing a 100% victory in 4 or 5 minutes by compounding our lead, they stay and we end up taking a fight under the Core. If we win, then hooray! However, we usually get pushed back or even lose a few teammates who cannot disengage in time. Now we're only slightly ahead or just even. So we traded away a guaranteed victory for the chance at ending it early. I facepalm every single time that happens.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
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