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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
March 18 2015 17:51 GMT
#7621
On March 19 2015 02:39 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 02:20 mordek wrote:
On March 19 2015 01:59 jaybrundage wrote:
I have come TL. After hearing about the sweet Heroes of the Storm Forum we have.

My first inquiry is who is Sgt Memorial? And where can I banter with him verbally after i kick his butt in heroes?

Was this not you??
On March 08 2015 01:45 mordek wrote:
Hi JayBrundage :D glgl

The person's name was JayBrundage... I thought surely there is only one!

You quoted your self. I did post in the thread before. But that was before I found out they were doing a separate HotS Forum. And I'm assuming you are Sgt Memorial :o

Yeah it was just for reference of the date, I met you in game
But I see now, you're announcing your arrival to the new subforum, sorry.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 18 2015 18:05 GMT
#7622
On March 19 2015 01:59 jaybrundage wrote:
I have come TL. After hearing about the sweet Heroes of the Storm Forum we have.

My first inquiry is who is Sgt Memorial? And where can I banter with him verbally after i kick his butt in heroes?


ew who's this guy
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 18 2015 19:13 GMT
#7623
What's exactly the hook/gorge build? What are the talents that need to be taken?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19216 Posts
March 18 2015 19:49 GMT
#7624
On March 19 2015 04:13 FreeZEternal wrote:
What's exactly the hook/gorge build? What are the talents that need to be taken?

Gorge is a heroic ability you select. When in melee-ish range you can eat a hero and keep the hero in your belly for a few seconds before spitting the hero back out. Hook is a primary ability. So hook your opponent with a get-over-here scorpion attack and before the hero can distance themselves, gorge. In late game you can time out a continuous gorge until the hero is no more.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 18 2015 20:07 GMT
#7625
On March 19 2015 00:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2015 23:38 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 18 2015 23:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:
At first, I kind of liked the skill gating because I was still figuring out the game. I'm still leveling up (around 21 atm), but at this point, I'm fairly confident in my ability to figure out the things I'd need to since you can look at all the talents in hero info. The gating should probably be turned off once you're level 10 or something.

Like...what's the real reasoning behind having it? I get it for new people - having fewer things to decide makes things easier to get into. But once you understand the game, it just ends up being an annoying hurdle preventing you from accessing a hero's full potential.

It also has this effect where you think the first two talents of each tier are not as good as the last 3. This is definitely not true and some heroes benefit greatly from the vanilla abilities.


Even beyond that, it prevents adaptability. For the heroes with several different build paths that depend on the enemy, you really end up pigeonholed for several games.

Now, it's really not that much of an issue for me yet cuz I'm still leveling up, but I'm sure it'll bother me more as people get better. Even then, I'll likely view it a lot like I view LoL or Smite queues - ranked is the only thing that matters, regular games are meh.


Honestly when you're just learning the game it almost doesn't matter what talents you pick (outside of a few heroes that are absolutely talent dependent). Getting a hero with a bad default heroic however sucks.

That said, it doesn't take until lvl 30 to 'learn' the game. I think level 20 is a good place to remove talent gating if they insist on keeping it. That way you still have the milestones of lvl 10 stimpack, lvl 12 extra free hero rotation slot, lvl 15 all free hero rotation slots, lvl 20 no talent gating, lvl 30 hero league, lvl 40 team league.

On March 19 2015 02:51 xDaunt wrote:

This is long overdue. Still, I can't believe how many slam/bile Stitches I see now when hook/gorge is the better build most of the time in pub play.


Let's put the Gorge nerf into perspective, currently the damage is 100 + 25 / level, which actually more than Singularity Spike (100 + 20 / level). Now it used to be double, so Stiches went from having a CC with double bombs to a CC with the baseline talent. It's a pretty big lose of damage, which isn't made up elsewhere on the team since at lvl 10 towers / forts don't help you as much and a lot of burst heroes were nerfed last patch as well.

That said, slam build and Fishing Hook aren't mutually exclusive, you don't need Pulverize most of the time. Although it seems the meta is starting to prefer Stiches with amp healing over slam anyways (so healing + bile + fishing hook basically). Then again I don't trust pubs to set up long hooks and I prefer Pulverize to interrupt annoying channeled abilities (again I don't trust my team to do it =x).

But ya, with Gorge being nerfed, Hardened Shields being so good (hard to pass it up for Blink) and the meta shifting to single, super-survivable tank (see Chen's popularity in Europe at least), you kind of want Bile to control the fight once it comes since there won't be another warrior to help you out with that.

BTW, I find it hilarious that they're finally picking up that Hook is what defines Stiches. When I read the patch addendum for why they removed Cast Aside from Tyrael as too binary it was as if they really meant to say Hook / Stiches.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 20:30:22
March 18 2015 20:22 GMT
#7626
I bought Brightwing on Sunday and have been playing her (him? it?) pretty much exclusively since. From the small amount of research I've done, she doesn't seem to be very high on the support tier list - is this because she can't get healing ward? In that same vein, I'm still figuring out how to build her, but teleporting and blinking everywhere is a blast.

I don't really care too much about tier lists though, I'm going to continue playing her because I absolutely love her flavor and have so much fun playing her.

edit - my perception may be skewed as I'm still leveling up
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
March 18 2015 20:26 GMT
#7627
On March 19 2015 04:49 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 04:13 FreeZEternal wrote:
What's exactly the hook/gorge build? What are the talents that need to be taken?

Gorge is a heroic ability you select. When in melee-ish range you can eat a hero and keep the hero in your belly for a few seconds before spitting the hero back out. Hook is a primary ability. So hook your opponent with a get-over-here scorpion attack and before the hero can distance themselves, gorge. In late game you can time out a continuous gorge until the hero is no more.


Oh what I was asking was what are the talents for this build? I've played stitches a few times but most of my games were using slam.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 18 2015 20:26 GMT
#7628
Anyone looking for duo q partners on EU? Just hit lvl 30 and wanna climb ladder. Be good at game please))

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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 18 2015 20:34 GMT
#7629
Sylvanas and Tomb of the Spider Queen next week! WOOT!
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 18 2015 20:45 GMT
#7630
On March 19 2015 05:26 FreeZEternal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 04:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 19 2015 04:13 FreeZEternal wrote:
What's exactly the hook/gorge build? What are the talents that need to be taken?

Gorge is a heroic ability you select. When in melee-ish range you can eat a hero and keep the hero in your belly for a few seconds before spitting the hero back out. Hook is a primary ability. So hook your opponent with a get-over-here scorpion attack and before the hero can distance themselves, gorge. In late game you can time out a continuous gorge until the hero is no more.


Oh what I was asking was what are the talents for this build? I've played stitches a few times but most of my games were using slam.


Hook / Gorge is just the combination of Fishing Hook at lvl 16 and Gorge at lvl 10.

You used to take Blink at lvl 20 to better place where the picked hero would end up, but I don't think people do that that anymore.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 18 2015 21:03 GMT
#7631
On March 19 2015 05:45 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 05:26 FreeZEternal wrote:
On March 19 2015 04:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 19 2015 04:13 FreeZEternal wrote:
What's exactly the hook/gorge build? What are the talents that need to be taken?

Gorge is a heroic ability you select. When in melee-ish range you can eat a hero and keep the hero in your belly for a few seconds before spitting the hero back out. Hook is a primary ability. So hook your opponent with a get-over-here scorpion attack and before the hero can distance themselves, gorge. In late game you can time out a continuous gorge until the hero is no more.


Oh what I was asking was what are the talents for this build? I've played stitches a few times but most of my games were using slam.


Hook / Gorge is just the combination of Fishing Hook at lvl 16 and Gorge at lvl 10.

You used to take Blink at lvl 20 to better place where the picked hero would end up, but I don't think people do that that anymore.

As far as I know they still do, and I also do if I pick Gorge while I pick Hardened Shield when I choose Putrid Bile. Sure you can get Hardened Shield even with Gorge but you are already going for that pick-off build with him, Bolt of the Storm is just too good to pass.

To be honest Stitches really needs a buffs to his level 20 heroic abilities upgrades, while nerfs to his health and some talents. Putrid Bile and Gorge upgrades are hardly appealing when you take a look at the Bolt of the Storm and Hardened Shield and sick combos with the rest of your kit that they provide you.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 18 2015 22:28 GMT
#7632
On March 19 2015 05:34 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sylvanas and Tomb of the Spider Queen next week! WOOT!

I've got 15000 gold saved up and I'm gonna buy Sylvanas instantly, I don't care about the price.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 18 2015 22:56 GMT
#7633
I don't got 15000 gold. Debating whether I should just pay for her. I probably should. Now debating whether I should buy just her, or the skin combo she comes with. Hmmmmmm
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 18 2015 23:23 GMT
#7634
On March 19 2015 07:56 Chairman Ray wrote:
I don't got 15000 gold. Debating whether I should just pay for her. I probably should. Now debating whether I should buy just her, or the skin combo she comes with. Hmmmmmm

Do we know what any of her skins will be yet? I bought the Winterveil Jaina skin/hero bundle and no regrets. I'm happy to support a game I enjoy playing.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
March 18 2015 23:30 GMT
#7635
I'm hoping for a pajama skin
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 18 2015 23:36 GMT
#7636
On March 19 2015 08:23 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 07:56 Chairman Ray wrote:
I don't got 15000 gold. Debating whether I should just pay for her. I probably should. Now debating whether I should buy just her, or the skin combo she comes with. Hmmmmmm

Do we know what any of her skins will be yet? I bought the Winterveil Jaina skin/hero bundle and no regrets. I'm happy to support a game I enjoy playing.


One of her skins better be her human form before she got turned into a banshee.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
March 19 2015 00:11 GMT
#7637
On March 19 2015 05:34 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sylvanas and Tomb of the Spider Queen next week! WOOT!


Where did you see this? I want to read about it!!
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 19 2015 00:35 GMT
#7638
On March 19 2015 09:11 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 05:34 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sylvanas and Tomb of the Spider Queen next week! WOOT!


Where did you see this? I want to read about it!!


http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/16648684962?page=18#348

Not an official announcement. And they don't say when next week, but it would be really weird if it wasn't during the normal Tuesday maintenance.

I'm pretty psyched for the new map.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 19 2015 02:19 GMT
#7639
On March 19 2015 09:11 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 05:34 Chairman Ray wrote:
Sylvanas and Tomb of the Spider Queen next week! WOOT!


Where did you see this? I want to read about it!!



I didn't expect it to be so soon, but hype!
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
March 19 2015 06:28 GMT
#7640
On March 19 2015 07:56 Chairman Ray wrote:
I don't got 15000 gold. Debating whether I should just pay for her. I probably should. Now debating whether I should buy just her, or the skin combo she comes with. Hmmmmmm

Actually it just occurred to me that this patch might be the one where they add profile leveling gold rewards. If that's the case just about every lvl 40 will have enough to grab Sylvanas right away. With that thought I hope it's not the gold patch, because I don't want to fight over picking her lol.
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