EPTWith zeratul banned, you can choo choo motherfucker even the tank with that kind of burst. Lucifron was getting creamed at the taketv brawler tournament finals.
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Godwrath
Spain10152 Posts
With zeratul banned, you can choo choo motherfucker even the tank with that kind of burst. Lucifron was getting creamed at the taketv brawler tournament finals. | ||
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
But it just made me think that the Blizzard categorizations are sometimes just misleading (i.e. - Tassadar / Tyrande). I know Sonya has good burst so it makes sense to play her as melee assassin. Does Anub have good burst though? Or is it more about his initiation / cc's? | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
Comps have not been completely figured out yet either, we've seen double tanks, double healers, triple assassins etc etc and no-one knows what's better. E.T.C is a very special pick and can look completely op against setups with low burst/vulnerable to cc (I haven't seen that rehgar+malf+etc game but I can imagine the amount of healing...). Sooner or later people with also realize how op gazlowe is... until then, free points for me hehehehe. | ||
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Garsecg
United States129 Posts
On February 06 2015 02:37 NonY wrote: I just tried this for one game and it feels like it suffers from the problems anyone would imagine: --it's weak early game. in my view it's taking talents that benefit more from kung fu hustle, so before you have kung fu hustle, you're relatively weaker. the exception being lvl 16 talent, where two for one has better synergy with kung fu hustle --it encounters mana problems. mid-game it's not so bad. you can have mana for all the important fights. but late game, the idea especially of using 3 water dragons in a single fight.. impossible. if you open with it, use your abilities constantly, then you may be able to end with a 2nd water dragon and then you'll be out of mana. i guess this fits with not playing lili as sustain though --speaking of mana, 1000 cups is a super mana efficient heal. even when you go for healing and mana efficiency build (mana regen, healing over time, healing totem) you still find yourself using your ult just for mana efficient healing. any time you take water dragon, that's an indirect negative to your mana pool --shake it off is almost a must-have talent against certain team comps. being forced into not taking pitch perfect is gonna be yet another blow to your output --surging winds (gain ability power from blinding wind) synergizes best with 1000 cups. mass vortex + surging winds -> 1000 cups is the real power play here. blinding almost their whole team then doing a powered up 1000 cups I think when you solo queue and get matched with a lot of tanks/supports, you can strongly consider building Lili for more damage. And she can do a surprising amount with her damage talents. But I'm not sure this build is the best way to go about it. I still think Lili is a hero where you mostly want to make every talent choice individually every single game. Thank you for trying it out and giving some feedback! I can see shake it off vs. certain comps where herbal cleanse wouldn't keep you safe (can't cleanse poly, stun, etc.). And without pitch perfect, yeah, mana really suffers. CC that eliminates Lili's control is the real crux of this build. But if they don't have those things, it might be really powerful since I think it would be very difficult to lock Lili down. I never even thought of the 1000 cups + mass vortex + surging winds, but that's a pretty wicked combo. I admit, as you say, unless you have two supports or it's a super-small map or something, it's tough to imagine too many situations where water dragon hustle would be superior. 70-80% of games probably. | ||
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Big G
Italy835 Posts
http://us.battle.net//heroes/en/blog/17862496 | ||
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Brian333
657 Posts
Also ETC's emergence. With guitar hero and echo pedal, ETC has pretty good wave clear, decent self sustain and really good burst for a tank. In terms of burst damage, he's probably only second to Arthas while providing good utility. You get into melee range, AA swing, E instant swing, Q, and then W. They immediately take 300% AA damage, Q damage, W damage, 3-4 ticks of echo pedal, and ideally get pushed into a pretty vulnerable position. Another reason with he emergence is that he gets bolt at 20. Again, this is just like the case of Tyrael's return -- with the loss of resurgence, it actually matters what 20 talents the warriors have. Bolt is a great 20 talent and it works really well with mosh pit. If you think about comps, usually teams will run 2-3 interrupts. If you can bait 1 interrupt (like waiting for Tychus to Odin), bolt and mosh pit to catch another interrupt, and have a Nazeebo on your team, things get really ugly really fast. Also, the Hyperion vs. Banshees choice. Banshee is generally a better choice. But, Hyperion actually is a better choice if you can force the enemy team to attack into a location. So, in other words, Sky Temple. It's also good on Garden where there are engagements around the terrors. I also don't know why people are talking about berserk here when bullseye is a must take talent. | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On February 06 2015 10:43 Complete wrote: hey this might be a stupid question, but is HOTS in open beta or do you need a key to get in still? It is closed beta but you can buy a key. | ||
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ref4
2933 Posts
On February 06 2015 10:46 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: It is closed beta but you can buy a key. I don't know why Blizzard doesn't release the game already, this Beta testing phase feels very polished and doesn't even feel like beta at all. The delay of official release is just going to kill the hype and excitement the fans have and bite Blizzard in the ass later. The fact that you can BUY beta access means they're ready to officially launch the game ffs lol. | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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Brian333
657 Posts
You have no profile screen. How ridiculous is that? You have no match history sceen outside of your replay menu. You have no clans, no guilds, no team hubs. You have no team league, no real solo queue, no real ranking system because everyone agrees HL is a joke. You have no integrated communication system in a game where communication is everything. You have placeholder icons for a lot of things. You have placeholder talents on a lot of heroes and heroes that need reworks. You have a myriad of bugs. You only have 33 heroes (IIRC). The competitive scene is still trying to find its footing. The streaming community is still in its infancy. It's not ready. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On February 06 2015 10:52 ref4 wrote: I don't know why Blizzard doesn't release the game already, this Beta testing phase feels very polished and doesn't even feel like beta at all. The delay of official release is just going to kill the hype and excitement the fans have and bite Blizzard in the ass later. The fact that you can BUY beta access means they're ready to officially launch the game ffs lol. Have you tried the reconnect feature lately? The most obvious technical issue to show why the game isn't ready for launch. The official tech support forums are flooded with people complaining about performance issues (based on the last game I kickstarted that's supposedly the last thing you do, so they aren't ready until they tackle that). Not to mention all the missing features Brian mentioned. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
So, i'll ask you guys something, what do you think the community section which is currently there but unnabailable will be? must be kind of important to have a place on the lower bar. | ||
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
But yeah, thats what it is, it can be a little confusing if you come from sc2 where mechanics mean like skill. | ||
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NKB
United Kingdom608 Posts
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Esoterikk
Canada1256 Posts
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Noam
Israel2209 Posts
Do you get less XP for hero kills when you are levels ahead compared to equal levels? | ||
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Hildegard
Germany348 Posts
On February 06 2015 17:00 Noam wrote: Has it been proven or announced that there's some limitations on teams getting ahead of their opponents? Do you get less XP for hero kills when you are levels ahead compared to equal levels? The team with less xp gets more and that increases by level difference. HotS has a strong comeback mechanic and matches can turn around with one good group fight, at least on the less snowbally maps. Also according to the Q4 2014 earnings call "Heroes of the Storm has 9 million users registered for beta". | ||
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