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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 30 2014 04:42 GMT
#3221
Goddamn all these Nova players. I think I'm just going to keep playing Tassadar until she's nerfed into the ground. I don't understand why she has more burst than Zeratul.
Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
October 30 2014 05:16 GMT
#3222
I just play with the heroes i like, not taking OP or UP into account XD Its still alpha, a lot of stuff will change. Pandas and SC2 XD
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
October 30 2014 05:22 GMT
#3223
I don't think Nova has more burst than Zeratul. She just can burst from range which makes her safer and easier to play.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 30 2014 05:35 GMT
#3224
On October 30 2014 14:22 Brian333 wrote:
I don't think Nova has more burst than Zeratul. She just can burst from range which makes her safer and easier to play.

If you throw in her orbital strike, she definitely does more damage. She picks off heroes so damned easily anyway. Honestly, I think that the bigger problem is that she's a ranged hero with perma-cloak. If I was balancing her, I'd start by messing with that. Maybe just triple the time it takes for her to recloak.
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
October 30 2014 06:27 GMT
#3225
She does more damage through out a match due to being able to engage and disengage more freely than Zeratul. But, in terms of short-term burst, she doesn't deal more damage than Zeratul. Searing attacks + double bombs + cleave will drop a support instantly. If you go with the hard commit Shadow Assault build you will kill anything within 5 seconds.

The problem is the Zeratul will be focused once he reveals himself and is a prime target for shrink-ray and other CC so he will frequently not get to use his full damage potential.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 09:11:01
October 30 2014 09:10 GMT
#3226
Me and my mates all got Alpha invite yesterday was sick. Got 10mb per second on the download too thanks Blizzard.
I think this game after like 4 matches feels like objective based DOTA, i like it because i like the Blizzard characters, will be playing more over the next few days.
Oh i bought LK straight away because well i always wanted this game to play as LK!! He is sick too, can take so much damage, just need to read up on a good build for him.
I like the way the game feels at the moment. However the first game i did with default settings nearly made me rage quit. The camera mode where it defaults back to your character made clicking around the map impossible.

Oh also is there anyway to remove that god damn chat/text box you get in the right of your screen in lobby etc?


And...when i bought LK i got billie mount with it too :o looks so sick!
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shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 10:16:43
October 30 2014 09:53 GMT
#3227
As Abathur:
Which cloned Hero would gain the most from the lvl 20 blink? Are there any combinations which are potentially OP?

BTW: I started saving the location of the forts to f5-f9. Makes using calldown mule more effective. You can check the status of multiple forts in a half a second and then use calldown mule on the one which need it most in the other half of the second.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
October 30 2014 11:03 GMT
#3228
Can anyone explain anything to me ? I'm new to the game.
The other day I played valla quite a bit and unlocked the talents.
Today I come back to the game and ... I'm stuck again with the shitty low level talents.
What the hell ?
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 11:07:54
October 30 2014 11:07 GMT
#3229
On October 30 2014 20:03 RouaF wrote:
Can anyone explain anything to me ? I'm new to the game.
The other day I played valla quite a bit and unlocked the talents.
Today I come back to the game and ... I'm stuck again with the shitty low level talents.
What the hell ?


They wiped everyone's progress. First and last reset, I reckon. They've said there are no more planned wipes, so your progress throughout the game is now being saved and will carry over to the open beta/full release.

You should be more interested in the possible return of WC3, mr. RouaF!
I like words.
wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
October 30 2014 11:09 GMT
#3230
On October 30 2014 20:03 RouaF wrote:
Can anyone explain anything to me ? I'm new to the game.
The other day I played valla quite a bit and unlocked the talents.
Today I come back to the game and ... I'm stuck again with the shitty low level talents.
What the hell ?

It seems, it is a global issue. Many players, i've talked/played yesterday said the same.
* Only girls complain about balance! *
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
October 30 2014 11:30 GMT
#3231
Oh. My bad. I misunderstood.

Aye, there's a bug with talents and levels. It seems to affect games at random.

Hopefully they address it soon.
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St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
October 30 2014 12:15 GMT
#3232
Yesterday I got into alpha!! Nice!!!! I tried several heroes and I really liked Tyrael he feels so mobile, sturdy and hits fairly strong. About the maps my favourites so far are the pirates one and the one where you can summon a dragon.

Which is the main resource online in terms of learning about the game? the TL of HotS if you will. Thanks in advance.
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 14:25:10
October 30 2014 12:54 GMT
#3233
My early impression of the game was really fun, but over time, however, I came to enjoy the game less and less.

The way I enjoy League is not unlike the way I enjoy HOTS, as I don't find the games particular fun in them selves; rather it's the micro potential of the champions that makes the game for me. If I don't like the champion, then I would be bored too dead in both games (in Sc2 I also enjoy terran but I can't stand playing protoss).
And that's kinda the issue with Heroes of the Storm, because while Riot has really focussed on the micro interactions, Blizzard seems to have had a higher focus on making the "lore" work, rather than focussing on making the battle interactions skillful.

Illidan was quite fun for a while, but over time it got repetitive to smash Q and W and do the same simplistic micro over and over. Sure there is a quite a bit of "multitasking" in the game since you constantly need to move around, but battle micro is just the most important aspect for me (regardless of whether its an RTS or MOBA).
I would like to play Zeratul also, but it's just gonna take forever to get 10K gold (I am at 6k atm) when you unlock like 30G for a win, and your forced to play different heroes to get more gold (which is something I really don't enjoy).

One thing I noticed is that most skillshots have much lower range in Heroes than in League. Combined with slow movement speed and large model size, skillshots are mostly dodged by moving back in Heroes of the Storm. LOL on the other hand is more about predicting where the enemy will cast his skillshot, and then react to that (estimate) correctly by moving to the left or right. As a new player to both games, I enjoy League micro alot more.

It's a bit sad as I really enjoyed the removal of excessive farming, no items/runes/masteries, not worrying about last-hitting, shared XP, mercenaries and many of the objectives. Therefore I will continue to follow the game as I hope Blizzard comes up with some "exciting" new stuff at Blizzcon.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 30 2014 13:54 GMT
#3234
To piggyback on Hider I think they should experiment with making everyone's ground movespeed like ... 20% faster or something. Keep mounted movespeed unchanged but make it so it doesn't feel like you're stepping into a pool of syrup once you hit the ground. It would also help out some characters without a mount like Hammer be a bit more viable.
Wat
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 14:24:10
October 30 2014 14:11 GMT
#3235
On October 30 2014 22:54 Tenks wrote:
To piggyback on Hider I think they should experiment with making everyone's ground movespeed like ... 20% faster or something. Keep mounted movespeed unchanged but make it so it doesn't feel like you're stepping into a pool of syrup once you hit the ground. It would also help out some characters without a mount like Hammer be a bit more viable.


Combined with higher longer cast range of most skillshots that would be good. Then you could realistically hit someone that is far away, but the enemy can through his faster movement speed avoid taking damage, even if he is within range.

I think in League many abilities have like twice the castrange as the default attack. In HOTS I think skillshots and default attack have almost the same range.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 30 2014 14:27 GMT
#3236
On October 30 2014 18:10 Pandemona wrote:
Me and my mates all got Alpha invite yesterday was sick. Got 10mb per second on the download too thanks Blizzard.
I think this game after like 4 matches feels like objective based DOTA, i like it because i like the Blizzard characters, will be playing more over the next few days.
Oh i bought LK straight away because well i always wanted this game to play as LK!! He is sick too, can take so much damage, just need to read up on a good build for him.
I like the way the game feels at the moment. However the first game i did with default settings nearly made me rage quit. The camera mode where it defaults back to your character made clicking around the map impossible.

Oh also is there anyway to remove that god damn chat/text box you get in the right of your screen in lobby etc?


And...when i bought LK i got billie mount with it too :o looks so sick!


I sat and stared at this post for like 5 minutes trying to figure out who the hell LK is. I even opened up the game to look at the roster. Then it dawned me that you're talking about Arthas, the Lich King. I must be getting old.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 30 2014 14:30 GMT
#3237
On October 30 2014 23:27 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 18:10 Pandemona wrote:
Me and my mates all got Alpha invite yesterday was sick. Got 10mb per second on the download too thanks Blizzard.
I think this game after like 4 matches feels like objective based DOTA, i like it because i like the Blizzard characters, will be playing more over the next few days.
Oh i bought LK straight away because well i always wanted this game to play as LK!! He is sick too, can take so much damage, just need to read up on a good build for him.
I like the way the game feels at the moment. However the first game i did with default settings nearly made me rage quit. The camera mode where it defaults back to your character made clicking around the map impossible.

Oh also is there anyway to remove that god damn chat/text box you get in the right of your screen in lobby etc?


And...when i bought LK i got billie mount with it too :o looks so sick!


I sat and stared at this post for like 5 minutes trying to figure out who the hell LK is. I even opened up the game to look at the roster. Then it dawned me that you're talking about Arthas, the Lich King. I must be getting old.


Oh sorry haha. I come from more a WoW background in my blizzard lore and forgot >.< !
My Lich King (Arthas) looks so funny riding around on billie.

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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
October 30 2014 14:35 GMT
#3238
is it me or is chen pretty squishy vs nova? she can burst him down pretty quick if he's like 3/4 health and has 1-2 ppl attack him while he drinks his brew
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
October 30 2014 15:03 GMT
#3239
On October 30 2014 23:35 TT1 wrote:
is it me or is chen pretty squishy vs nova? she can burst him down pretty quick if he's like 3/4 health and has 1-2 ppl attack him while he drinks his brew


Uh...read what you said again then think about it.

If it requires 1-2 people to be attacking him in addition to Nova burst, that means he's the tankiest hero in the game.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
October 30 2014 15:13 GMT
#3240
On October 31 2014 00:03 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 23:35 TT1 wrote:
is it me or is chen pretty squishy vs nova? she can burst him down pretty quick if he's like 3/4 health and has 1-2 ppl attack him while he drinks his brew


Uh...read what you said again then think about it.

If it requires 1-2 people to be attacking him in addition to Nova burst, that means he's the tankiest hero in the game.


having 1 person target chen isnt really that much if nova can just burst him down in a single volley, and its not like chen has any escapes or anything. also you really dont have enough time to ult, it all happens so quickly.

and this is assuming someone doesnt interrupt your drinking or anything, if they do chen is pretty much useless. that being said hes probably one of my favorite heroes right now, hes super fun to play.
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