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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 28 2014 12:51 GMT
#3161
Not to be rude or anything, but you're not really what competitive teams are looking for if you're only around 2k MMR on hotslogs. You should focus on finding a few players that you can duo-queue with instead.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
October 28 2014 12:54 GMT
#3162
Well uh... isn't that exactly what he is doing? He said it doesn't necessarily have to be a team^^
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 28 2014 13:13 GMT
#3163
bugs in this game are funny sometimes, just had a game where all my talents were locked LOL
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 28 2014 13:30 GMT
#3164
On October 28 2014 21:54 KeksX wrote:
Well uh... isn't that exactly what he is doing? He said it doesn't necessarily have to be a team^^


Well, he stated he was looking for a competitive 5-man team OR people to queue with. I was simply suggesting the former isn't really viable, and that he should focus more on just finding people to 2 or 3-person queue with.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 28 2014 13:32 GMT
#3165
On October 28 2014 22:13 kongoline wrote:
bugs in this game are funny sometimes, just had a game where all my talents were locked LOL


Happens to me at least once a week. Restarting the client will fix it but unfortunately by the time you get back in the AI has usually picked a terrible level 4 talent for you.
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wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
October 28 2014 14:03 GMT
#3166
Just received a key, so im searching for friends @ EU server
add me in game: wishr#2283

exp:
400hours of dota1
4k games of LoL
300 hours of dota2
Tons of SC:BW and SC2
* Only girls complain about balance! *
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 28 2014 14:04 GMT
#3167
You can game your MMR in HOTS so easy anyways if you just 5man stack at off hours and pubstomp. I've played with many of the top ranked players who aren't on big name teams and they're just downright terrible. On hotslog my MMR is only about 3.5k and these people are like 5k and just making the worst possible decisions.
Wat
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 14:34:40
October 28 2014 14:33 GMT
#3168
On October 28 2014 23:04 Tenks wrote:
You can game your MMR in HOTS so easy anyways if you just 5man stack at off hours and pubstomp. I've played with many of the top ranked players who aren't on big name teams and they're just downright terrible. On hotslog my MMR is only about 3.5k and these people are like 5k and just making the worst possible decisions.


I consider this as a hidden brag.

But I guess there is a reason for why you need +100 games to come on the leaderboard. Too easy to get high mmr with less games if you just are somewhat better than the low level players and play a hero that can make a difference.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 28 2014 14:42 GMT
#3169
well i'm sure it has to do with player pool size
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 15:16:57
October 28 2014 15:16 GMT
#3170
On October 28 2014 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
well i'm sure it has to do with player pool size


Definitely, there might be a competetive scene already but do you guys remember anyone from SC2 Alpha or even Beta? I sure as hell only remember those who pulled through after the game was released and the ones that were entertaining to watch during Beta, like debo.

Being at the top know definitely gives you an edge, but at this point I'm convinced that in the long run, it doesn't matter.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 15:22:40
October 28 2014 15:22 GMT
#3171
On October 29 2014 00:16 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2014 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
well i'm sure it has to do with player pool size


Definitely, there might be a competetive scene already but do you guys remember anyone from SC2 Alpha or even Beta? I sure as hell only remember those who pulled through after the game was released and the ones that were entertaining to watch during Beta, like debo.

Being at the top know definitely gives you an edge, but at this point I'm convinced that in the long run, it doesn't matter.


TLO, Idra, Sen, Dimaga, Whitera, Demuslim, Nony. Lots of people became famous during Sc2 beta.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
October 28 2014 15:27 GMT
#3172
its unplayable right now i dont get any exp after games and am talent gated even on lvl5++ heroes
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 28 2014 17:25 GMT
#3173
On October 28 2014 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
well i'm sure it has to do with player pool size


It has everything to do with the size of the pool. The best teams are only on at certain hours and even then they're generally playing customs. So if your team is at least a coordinated group of bad players you can beat a disorganized group of good players.
Wat
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 28 2014 17:27 GMT
#3174
On October 29 2014 00:22 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 00:16 KeksX wrote:
On October 28 2014 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
well i'm sure it has to do with player pool size


Definitely, there might be a competetive scene already but do you guys remember anyone from SC2 Alpha or even Beta? I sure as hell only remember those who pulled through after the game was released and the ones that were entertaining to watch during Beta, like debo.

Being at the top know definitely gives you an edge, but at this point I'm convinced that in the long run, it doesn't matter.


TLO, Idra, Sen, Dimaga, Whitera, Demuslim, Nony. Lots of people became famous during Sc2 beta.



Many would argue, and would be correct, that everyone on that list outside of TLO was already pretty well known in the RTS scene either via BW or WC3. But since SC2 esports was wildly popular and it just so happened to coincide with the massive rise in streaming many of those players grew in fame well beyond what they started at.
Wat
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
October 28 2014 17:44 GMT
#3175
Talking about MMR or notable players at the moment is pretty pointless. People seem to think the 20 players going to Blizzcon are the 20 best players when in reality most of them don't really stand out. They were chosen for marketing purposes; it's better to have a known player with a skill level of 8 or 9 than to have an unknown player with a skill level of 10.

The players going to Blizzcon aren't bad but I guarantee more than half of them will be forgotten as soon as retail hits and more players join. Some of them like Sheth and ZPs are genuinely good and will likely still be among the top players at retail, but a lot of the other players probably aren't even in the top 100 currently, let alone after release.

SC2 was a bit different because most of the notable players to come out of beta (IdrA, Nony, White-Ra, etc) were all already known and good at BW. You could argue the same applies to Heroes because a lot of the currently-good players are coming from League or DOTA... but the game is different enough that it doesn't. You can tell a lot of League players are really struggling to understand objectives and teamfights; most of them just want to sit in lanes all game and can't comprehend the value of objectives yet.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 28 2014 17:50 GMT
#3176
On October 29 2014 02:44 Serejai wrote:
You can tell a lot of League players are really struggling to understand objectives and teamfights; most of them just want to sit in lanes all game and can't comprehend the value of objectives yet.

aye what? they don't get that from league. maybe they just bad. There are just as many objectives and teamfights in league as dota no?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 28 2014 17:51 GMT
#3177
that wasnt his point
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 28 2014 17:53 GMT
#3178
On October 29 2014 02:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
that wasnt his point

what was his point in singling out players from a specific other game?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-28 17:55:04
October 28 2014 17:54 GMT
#3179
"league players" is easier than "people experienced in other mobas but with relatively few games of HotS under their belt"
his point was "OMG hots much superior and hard. Other moba players much noob very dumb"
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 28 2014 17:54 GMT
#3180
On October 29 2014 02:27 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2014 00:22 Hider wrote:
On October 29 2014 00:16 KeksX wrote:
On October 28 2014 23:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
well i'm sure it has to do with player pool size


Definitely, there might be a competetive scene already but do you guys remember anyone from SC2 Alpha or even Beta? I sure as hell only remember those who pulled through after the game was released and the ones that were entertaining to watch during Beta, like debo.

Being at the top know definitely gives you an edge, but at this point I'm convinced that in the long run, it doesn't matter.


TLO, Idra, Sen, Dimaga, Whitera, Demuslim, Nony. Lots of people became famous during Sc2 beta.



Many would argue, and would be correct, that everyone on that list outside of TLO was already pretty well known in the RTS scene either via BW or WC3. But since SC2 esports was wildly popular and it just so happened to coincide with the massive rise in streaming many of those players grew in fame well beyond what they started at.

Ya all those players were pretty famous besides TLO lol..
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