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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
I can understand why Raza wasn't neutral but did it have to go to priest? An even stronger late-game, on top of getting a strong early-game, is that was priest really needed right now? I still think that priest is a much better class than many people claim. But priest is garbage tier and has been that was since launch soo..... Thankfully Anyfin exists, so that there is something that can compete with priest. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
Now, having seen 2 legendaries from the Kabal, it's clear the Warlock legendary will also have a no-duplicate trigger. Given all the shiny new ways with which Warlocks will be able to wreck their own face, they're gonna need another Reno-type card. Fingers crossed. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 19 2016 01:44 NewSunshine wrote: That is a brutal card, more than perfect for Shadowpriest decks. With Shadowform as your only 2-of in a Reno Shadowpriest, you can heal up, play 1 Shadowform, hit for 2, play the second Shadowform, and hit for 3, and it only cost you 6 mana, and from then on you can always burn something for 3 every round, regardless of the play. Just be thankful it wasn't given to Mages, with Coldarra Drake in their arsenal. Now, having seen 2 legendaries from the Kabal, it's clear the Warlock legendary will also have a no-duplicate trigger. Given all the shiny new ways with which Warlocks will be able to wreck their own face, they're gonna need another Reno-type card. Fingers crossed. It's funny, Shadowform was the first thing that came to my mind too when I saw Raza. The Kabal theme was stated to be no-dups, so 100% the Warlock leg is going to be the same. What I'm wondering is if there are going to be any epics that do it too since Kazakus + class Leg might not be enough to get people to keep playing Reno decks once Reno rotates out. | ||
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Dromar
United States2145 Posts
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Hellonslaught
Brazil0 Posts
On November 19 2016 03:24 Dromar wrote: Raza is okay, maybe even good, but I think people might be overestimating him at first glance. Offhand, I don't think his ability is as good as Justicar Trueheart's, and she doesn't force you to build a singleton deck. And unlike Warlock and Mage, Priest doesn't have a ton of card draw options to try to compensate for the singleton deck composition and won't draw into the cards that the deck is centered around as often. Pretty much this. Also getting this card in the end of your deck playing a single copy of entomb/aoe/etc is just terrible. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
It is a boring and unspectacular card. Something more spectacular would have been nice to make Velen decks more significant. "Battlecry: All your minions have spell dmg +2" or "Deathrattle: Add three "Wrath of Light" to your hand" - some 1 mana 3 dmg spells that can hit both face and minions. --- edit: in b4 Beardo value. Yea but how realistic is that to be a consistent plan with so many cards to create a combo. Raza + Shadowform + Beardo + low Mana Spells + Justicar for like 12 dmg... edit 2: Kabal courier into "the dream" on pulling a Coldarra Drake - what are approx the odds on that? | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On November 19 2016 05:25 dAPhREAk wrote: Raza plus thoughtstolen Coldarra Drake = lol. Not completely impossible with the tri-class discover cards | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On November 19 2016 06:06 Inzan1ty wrote: edit 2: Kabal courier into "the dream" on pulling a Coldarra Drake - what are approx the odds on that? The odds it is on Trolden within a week is around 100% lol | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
![[image loading]](http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/308/69/636151547226135541.png) | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Melliflue
United Kingdom1389 Posts
On November 20 2016 05:01 WindWolf wrote: Having Wild Growth at 3 mana seems a bit weird. Howes depending on what a Jade Golem is, that can make up for it I suppose it might be okay to play on turn 1 with Innervate, if the Jade Golem can kill 1-drops anyway. Or on turn 2 after Coin + Wild Growth on turn 1. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On November 19 2016 13:24 WindWolf wrote: Still waiting for those shaman cards Not completely impossible with the tri-class discover cards I think it is around 3% chance. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 20 2016 05:01 WindWolf wrote: Having Wild Growth at 3 mana seems a bit weird. Howes depending on what a Jade Golem is, that can make up for it It's also another non-minion for Madam Goya decks. | ||
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/7337d143dabf14490226105865d697bc.png) 1-1 "Taunt" - pretty good deal me thinks. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Inzan1ty
1163 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On November 19 2016 01:44 NewSunshine wrote: That is a brutal card, more than perfect for Shadowpriest decks. With Shadowform as your only 2-of in a Reno Shadowpriest, you can heal up, play 1 Shadowform, hit for 2, play the second Shadowform, and hit for 3, and it only cost you 6 mana, and from then on you can always burn something for 3 every round, regardless of the play. Just be thankful it wasn't given to Mages, with Coldarra Drake in their arsenal. Now, having seen 2 legendaries from the Kabal, it's clear the Warlock legendary will also have a no-duplicate trigger. Given all the shiny new ways with which Warlocks will be able to wreck their own face, they're gonna need another Reno-type card. Fingers crossed. You can only have 1 shadowform in the deck if you have Raza, so you can never have the 3 damage hero power if you want it to cost 0 mana from Raza. The only way would be to "discover" a 3 mana spell from one of the tri-class cards or jeweled scarab and luck out enough to get a second shadowform. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On November 21 2016 01:53 BlackPaladin wrote: You can only have 1 shadowform in the deck if you have Raza, so you can never have the 3 damage hero power if you want it to cost 0 mana from Raza. The only way would be to "discover" a 3 mana spell from one of the tri-class cards or jeweled scarab and luck out enough to get a second shadowform. It's the same as Reno. You can have duplicates in your deck, but you have to draw all of them before it will work. It only cares about what's in your deck at the moment you play the card. | ||
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