EPTOn August 20 2013 00:31 DaCruise wrote:
The OP should change the title. Its a Warcraft TCG, not a WoW TCG.
The OP should change the title. Its a Warcraft TCG, not a WoW TCG.
Since you can't Trade cards it's not a TCG at all, but a CCG.
#semantics
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
Since you can't Trade cards it's not a TCG at all, but a CCG. #semantics | ||
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
On August 20 2013 02:16 Crownlol wrote: At least BW is free. Try getting into MTG and playing against people with $1000 decks. MTG is the most pay-to-win game on the planet (except drafting). Up to a certain point you are correct, but if you invested a certain sum it doesn'r really hold true. Even in standard (most of the time) you can't build the ultimate deck. There is always some kind of deck your deck is weak against. You just want to have good win% against most of the field. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
 Wonder when they are going to send out more. Probably not for awhile | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
On August 20 2013 03:07 Disengaged wrote: I need a damn beta key Wonder when they are going to send out more. Probably not for awhile They are better just giving it to streamers for free advertisement and giving extra beta keys for giveaways. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On August 20 2013 02:58 CruelZeratul wrote: Up to a certain point you are correct, but if you invested a certain sum it doesn'r really hold true. Even in standard (most of the time) you can't build the ultimate deck. There is always some kind of deck your deck is weak against. You just want to have good win% against most of the field. Modern and Standard are fine, but Casual, Legacy, and unlimited can be ridiculous. I got turn 0'd the other day. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
On August 20 2013 03:17 Crownlol wrote: Modern and Standard are fine, but Casual, Legacy, and unlimited can be ridiculous. I got turn 0'd the other day. How is that even possible? :D | ||
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DragoonTT
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SarcasmMonster
3136 Posts
On August 20 2013 03:36 DragoonTT wrote: So, which of the streamers are actually good at the game? While I wait for the game, I'd like to watch someone play who already knows his way around and doesn't blunder around in matches so I can get a better idea about the game I'll recommend Crota. He's actually worked in the TCG industry so he knows what's up: https://www.youtube.com/user/BlizShouter?feature=watch Artosis is pretty good too, check his twicth. He's had experience with MTG in the protour. Avoid: Husky, Totalbiscuit. They're great casters but not so-great players. Lots of misplays. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On August 19 2013 18:37 Usagi wrote: They should be adding some kind of constructed tournaments in game with prizes, the Heroes of M&M ccg does it quite nicely. People argue that you "need" to pay to be able to win those tournaments, but some friends have done well and gotten prizes in some of those, through luck of the draw I'd say, but still possible. most of the testers right now are what you could called 'casual gamers' who has very little experience with CCG but WoW. I dont think hosting a tournament now would hold too much of a significant. But i sure hope they world on a replay feature, a spectating system and a tournament support. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10142 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
There are a number of them, and I don't have the cards in front of me, but I'll explain the gist of it. Many of the cards in the combo are banned. This particular deck has zero land cards. There is an artifact that you can play for 0 and sacrifice for 1 mana of any color. You play this card either on your turn or your opponent's upkeep- it doesn't matter. You then use this 1 mana to play other cards that generate mana and card draw in order to play a Balustrade spy- the combo works like this: 1) Use card draws and mana creators to play Balustrade Spy or Undercity Informer and mill your entire deck because you have no lands. (Target player discards cards until they hit a land- you target yourself and have no lands, so your entire deck is in your graveyard). 2) 4 Narcomoeba will come back to the battlefield as a result of the mill (they come into play when they hit a graveyard) and flashback Dread Return (flashback = can play from graveyard) by sacrificing three Narcomoebas (sac for mana). Target Angel of Glory's Rise (returns creatures from your graveyard) to get Azami, Lady of Scrolls and Laboratory Maniac into the battlefield from your graveyard, since you are completely milled. 3) Tap one of them and win. On turn one. 40% of the time. (Having Laboratory Maniac makes it so that if you're out of cards and have to draw, you WIN instead of LOSE. Both cards tap for card draw, ending the game). | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
However, you can turn-0 with stuff like Simian Spirit guide (it's exile ability is a mana ability and therefore usable whenever) and manamorphose which is instant into whatever kind of kill combo you desire, so long as it is all instant speed (not many kill conditions are truly instant speed). It only counts as turn 0 if you are on the draw and win on your opponents turn. Otherwise it is turn 1. PS 40% goldfish on turn 1 is higher than I think belcher gets, and belcher is the most consistent turn 1 in legacy afaik. Vintage is absurd lol you could probably outstrip 40% there. | ||
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darkrage14
Canada173 Posts
On August 20 2013 04:19 Crownlol wrote: There are a number of them, and I don't have the cards in front of me, but I'll explain the gist of it. Many of the cards in the combo are banned. This particular deck has zero land cards. There is an artifact that you can play for 0 and sacrifice for 1 mana of any color. You play this card either on your turn or your opponent's upkeep- it doesn't matter. You then use this 1 mana to play other cards that generate mana and card draw in order to play a Balustrade spy- the combo works like this: 1) Use card draws and mana creators to play Balustrade Spy or Undercity Informer and mill your entire deck because you have no lands. (Target player discards cards until they hit a land- you target yourself and have no lands, so your entire deck is in your graveyard). 2) 4 Narcomoeba will come back to the battlefield as a result of the mill (they come into play when they hit a graveyard) and flashback Dread Return (flashback = can play from graveyard) by sacrificing three Narcomoebas (sac for mana). Target Angel of Glory's Rise (returns creatures from your graveyard) to get Azami, Lady of Scrolls and Laboratory Maniac into the battlefield from your graveyard, since you are completely milled. 3) Tap one of them and win. On turn one. 40% of the time. (Having Laboratory Maniac makes it so that if you're out of cards and have to draw, you WIN instead of LOSE. Both cards tap for card draw, ending the game). Isn't this a turn 1 win instead of turn 0? You play this combo during your First turn, thereby making it Turn 1 for you. Turn 0 kill is when you kill your opponent on HIS first turn while he goes first. Since you haven't actually gotten a turn yet, that would make it Turn 0. | ||
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el_dawg
United States164 Posts
Lookin forward to trying the beta as well. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On August 20 2013 04:35 darkrage14 wrote: Isn't this a turn 1 win instead of turn 0? You play this combo during your First turn, thereby making it Turn 1 for you. Turn 0 kill is when you kill your opponent on HIS first turn while he goes first. Since you haven't actually gotten a turn yet, that would make it Turn 0. Oops, yeah it's turn 1 not turn 0. Stupid as hell either way. You're essentially just flipping a coin to win or lose the game instantly- why not just do that and save the time and money? | ||
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
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heartlxp
United States1258 Posts
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aseq
Netherlands3997 Posts
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
On August 20 2013 05:31 heartlxp wrote: everything from closed beta gets wiped except the real money stuff right? Everything gets wiped you just get Gold after the wipe in proportion to the cash you spent | ||
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PardonYou
United States1360 Posts
On August 20 2013 05:31 heartlxp wrote: everything from closed beta gets wiped except the real money stuff right? Correct. But I think I read somewhere that beta people get something else, might accidentally be making that up though. | ||
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