Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft TCG - Page 16

On August 19 2013 20:00 Enema wrote:

I saw a guy getting over 350 Gold +Goldcard +Booster Pack for 9 wins

On August 19 2013 19:59 Godwrath wrote:

What's his id ? (Not asking to stalk, but because i think he just owned kripp's ass pretty hard)

Arena rewards feel a little lackluster. I spent about an hour and a half inside the Arena to go 3-3 to receive:

40 gold
1 pack of cards

Now, if you count the participation fee (150 gold), I basically just paid 110 gold and an hour and a half of time for what I could've had instantly for 10 gold less. With the amount of randomness involved in arena, I would almost expect to go 50/50 most of the time.

Doesn't feel very fun to do average and be "punished" for your time.

Edit: Just to offer some possible solutions, raising the cost of packs or lowering the cost of Arena entrance.

On August 19 2013 19:57 paralleluniverse wrote:


Virtually impossible.

If you do very well, you'll get 150g worth of rewards, including 1 card pack (100g), so 50g of other rewards. But you can't turn that card pack into 100g. So even if you do well, you'll continually fall 100g short.

No, you can't self-fund yourself as an arena player by winning enough. By the infinite monkey theorem, the probability of eventual ruin is 1, as long as the probability of winning games is not 1 (it's less than 1).

You guys also fail to take into account MMR matchmaking which gives players approximately 50% win rates. That means if you somehow managed to do well, i.e. >50%, it's partly because the matchmaker sucks, not because of your skill. If it didn't suck you'll always have 50%.

On August 19 2013 09:33 Iblis wrote:
Trump just did 7-3, 8-3, 8-3, 9-2 and has enough to pay for 2 arena entry so you definitely can go infinite. rewards are not random.

On August 19 2013 20:39 Enox wrote:

sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about. you need only 7 (SEVEN) wins to get 150 gold for sure. if you are decent and get something like this:


you can even afford to not reach the 7 wins now and then. the system is absolutly fine. Of course not everybody will be able to go infinite in arena. but thats the way in every game. basically the bad or unlucky players have to decide if they wanne wait and grind gold, or if time is more valueable than 2 bucks.

On August 19 2013 21:00 Serek wrote:


Nope, people in general don't have a good grasp of probability. 7 out of 9 wins decreases your odds in a significant manner. Assuming both players have equal chance of winning a match each time (so both players play the game equally well) the chance that you'll get at least 7 wins in 9 games (allowing for 2 loses) is around 7%. (Maths done using the binomial probability calculator in Wolfram Alfa).

On August 19 2013 21:07 Enox wrote:
probability doesnt really work in this case cause "both players play the game equalliy" isnt the case in most matches. I can only repeat: good/lucky players can play for free, bad/unlucky players need to grind or pay.

On August 19 2013 21:07 Enox wrote:
probability doesnt really work in this case cause "both players play the game equalliy" isnt the case in most matches. I can only repeat: good/lucky players can play for free, bad/unlucky players need to grind or pay.

On August 19 2013 22:31 Gotmog wrote:
Is anyone else worried that this game looks....way to simple ?

I played MTG casually with some local tournaments during my high school days, and that game was sooooo hard to learn...
After watching hearthstone for 2 days i feel like i know most cards and spell effects...

Also, i feel like not being able to block, no tremple, fear, flyers ETC ETC, not being able to spring your secret whenever you want, but on the first atack/cast AND SO MUCH MORE...is taking away from the game.

It just seems to be an interesting game and nothing more, with no depth whatsoever. I am still really interested to play it though. And i hope that following patches/editions/decks will bring a lot more to the table. Honestly, if we want this game to last more then a week , it really needs it.

On August 19 2013 23:12 Vindicare605 wrote:


1. It's supposed to be simple, the game is catering towards the casual FTP and tablet gaming markets.

2. It seems even simpler to any of us that have played other TGCs like Magic because we're all already familiar with basic mechanics.

On August 19 2013 23:22 Vindicare605 wrote:


I've found that trying to understand a game by simply reading the rules almost never works well, regardless of what kind of game it is.

Nothing tops seeing the game played or playing a tutorial, having the rules explained within the context of a flowing game is a whole lot better than trying to just read and understand rules on a website.

Like seriously, try explaining something like Starcraft to someone who has no context to go by. Impossible right? Only way to really teach them is to explain what's going on during the course of a game.

On August 19 2013 23:22 Vindicare605 wrote:


I've found that trying to understand a game by simply reading the rules almost never works well, regardless of what kind of game it is.

Nothing tops seeing the game played or playing a tutorial, having the rules explained within the context of a flowing game is a whole lot better than trying to just read and understand rules on a website.

Like seriously, try explaining something like Starcraft to someone who has no context to go by. Impossible right? Only way to really teach them is to explain what's going on during the course of a game.

On August 19 2013 23:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:


Is there some convenient Magic tutorial available then, or do I have to watch a game where someone is explaining what's going on for me?

On August 19 2013 22:31 Gotmog wrote:
Is anyone else worried that this game looks....way to simple ?

I played MTG casually with some local tournaments during my high school days, and that game was sooooo hard to learn...
After watching hearthstone for 2 days i feel like i know most cards and spell effects...

Also, i feel like not being able to block, no tremple, fear, flyers ETC ETC, not being able to spring your secret whenever you want, but on the first atack/cast AND SO MUCH MORE...is taking away from the game.

It just seems to be an interesting game and nothing more, with no depth whatsoever. I am still really interested to play it though. And i hope that following patches/editions/decks will bring a lot more to the table. Honestly, if we want this game to last more then a week , it really needs it.