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-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
August 14 2009 17:49 GMT
#61
I'm extremely pro sustainability, but that said this video is pretty bad...

And no I don't love buying stuff. Only thing I bought in the last few years is my computer and bike.
Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 18:22:48
August 14 2009 18:22 GMT
#62
On August 15 2009 02:13 PanoRaMa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 15:07 number1gog wrote:
Isn't the key to reviving the economy to loosen up the wallets and buy more? I think we should be stimulating spending, not discouraging it.


there are other priorities in our world and lives than just the economy


But I can pretty much guarantee that if the economy crashed hard, the "save the earth" people will have a few more personal issues more close to home to worry about first before saving the earth.
Legends never gg
Alizee-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States845 Posts
August 14 2009 20:24 GMT
#63
The video isn't bad at all, its a clear cut way to bring you into the topic. If you know nothing about it and you start throwing out super detailed information you get lost in the bigger picture. Its kinda pathetic you people see this as more or less tree huggers. A reason we're in this mess right now is because all we do is spend spend spend and if we don't? Things collapse. Living within our means is important and if you're so self centered to say as long as it doesn't happen in my life time, that's the same fool who thinks if the government shovels off for future generations its just great since it won't immediately affect you. Reality check though, if you ever plan to have children what then? You don't mind admitting to them you're 100% fine with giving them a shitty future because of the world you help create?

As far as solutions, she adequately gives areas to help improve the situation. One of which was local, go to your local farms, your local delis, you family owned restaurants. Stop going to wally world like its the mecca that just produces cheap crap for you to drool over. Grow your own vegetables, don't buy overly processed crap. There's so many directions you can go with it, same way with taking the government back making sure they're doing what's best for the people.

And lastly, I noticed a couple people whining because it shouldn't be up to us to fix it, the companies should fix it, the government should fix it. This is one of the root problems: no one ever wants to accept responsibility. That's how corporations and government run rampant because they take care of everyone, by people not accepting responsibility for their role in this world. Its not up to our "controllers" to determine the fate of the world, but alas I'm very glad some of you stay inside all day much better that way.
Strength behind the Pride
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 20:54:53
August 14 2009 20:53 GMT
#64
The video is trash. It's most likely some well-meaning but naive lady trying to feel good about herself and 'make a difference'. The problem with the video is that it's painfully obvious this lady has never attended a course on economics in her life and has no idea what she's talking about.

EDIT: And no, I don't love buying stuff. Everyone's always telling me how my keyboard, my socks, my T-shirts, etc. are trashed and I need to buy new ones.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
miNi
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Korea (South)2010 Posts
August 18 2009 11:26 GMT
#65
On August 15 2009 05:53 Zato-1 wrote:
The video is trash. It's most likely some well-meaning but naive lady trying to feel good about herself and 'make a difference'. The problem with the video is that it's painfully obvious this lady has never attended a course on economics in her life and has no idea what she's talking about.

You're trash. You're blatantly disparaging a woman who, as you said, is well-meaning. She's doing what she can by trying to educate people about resourcefulness, yet you have to open your trash mouth and force us to read your trashy opinion.

I liked this video; it gave me something to think about.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-19 04:14:19
August 19 2009 04:08 GMT
#66
It's interesting that this video... is complete bullshit. I care about our environment as much as the next man (all the deforestation stats are perfectly correct and concerning), but all I can say about the video is - NAIVE. Most of the arguments presented are just plain incorrect, and the rest don't give the entire picture. Computers only actually needing one chip to be replaced to be completely up-to-date? Even the high-heels example is flawed, because only the consumers can dictate what is "in fashion" or "popular" - not the producers of the goods.

- "1% of consumer goods are still in use 6 months later;" argument: people are wasteful
- Yes, because I'm reusing that water bottle for 6 months. 99% of consumer goods are meant to be disposed of.

- "We use energy to mix toxic chemicals with natural resources to make toxic, contaminated products. There are over 100,000 synthetic chemicals in use in commerce today, something something toxic toxic"
- Cite your sources please; this is bullcrap. You can call everything manmade a toxin, and maybe a turkey (IQ of 15, i believe) will believe you.

- BFR's are neurotoxins.
- First of all, that is only speculation and has not been proven. Flame retardants prevent many appliances from accidental combustion -> fire, and besides, many countries have already banned them on clothing and furniture.

On August 18 2009 20:26 miNi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2009 05:53 Zato-1 wrote:
The video is trash. It's most likely some well-meaning but naive lady trying to feel good about herself and 'make a difference'. The problem with the video is that it's painfully obvious this lady has never attended a course on economics in her life and has no idea what she's talking about.

You're trash. You're blatantly disparaging a woman who, as you said, is well-meaning. She's doing what she can by trying to educate people about resourcefulness, yet you have to open your trash mouth and force us to read your trashy opinion.

I liked this video; it gave me something to think about.


Because an opinion that contradicts your own is always trash... If she wants to educate people, maybe she should learn about the topic she's teaching first.
:)
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
August 20 2009 12:22 GMT
#67
I've been working in a disposal yard this summer, that takes in about 10000 people's waste. When you see 10 tons of paper come in per week you can only wonder what this looks like on a global scale. And that was just the paper.
A year ago my friend was working as a postman and it was election time. Although we was delivering for somewhere around 500 people he got more than 1/2 of a cubic meter of flyers to distribute.

Some say you can make a difference, but I think we're way too far down the line. Maybe that's my excuse. Threads like these make me want to pust Carlin's "saving the planet video", but I'm just going to say: "Pack your shit folks, we're going away."
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
August 20 2009 13:09 GMT
#68
Even the high-heels example is flawed, because only the consumers can dictate what is "in fashion" or "popular" - not the producers of the goods.
This is very untrue. Maybe you should read up on how fashion works, especially the fashion cartels in europe. Or should I say mafia/fashion cartels, like La Camorra.

Add to that the implicit copycatting that knockoffs will perform, and you have an entire fashion system which is organized, from the new 'in' colours of the season to the general trends, in a centralized manner. Consumers will buy what media tell them they should want to buy.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
bboyldy
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Korea (North)664 Posts
August 20 2009 16:30 GMT
#69
gosh i am a sucker for persuasive videos with stick figure diagrams
expressing myself through the form of dancing
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 20 2009 16:43 GMT
#70
On August 20 2009 22:09 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
Even the high-heels example is flawed, because only the consumers can dictate what is "in fashion" or "popular" - not the producers of the goods.
This is very untrue. Maybe you should read up on how fashion works, especially the fashion cartels in europe. Or should I say mafia/fashion cartels, like La Camorra.

Add to that the implicit copycatting that knockoffs will perform, and you have an entire fashion system which is organized, from the new 'in' colours of the season to the general trends, in a centralized manner. Consumers will buy what media tell them they should want to buy.




Good job catching that specious statement
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 20 2009 16:44 GMT
#71
I spent some where between $4000 to $7000 last financial year getting shits that I don't need.
I hope I can claim them back on Tax.
Rillanon.au
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